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On 01/08/2013 7:42 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> Don't want no search engine regurgitation so ... who knows where hanging
> a horseshoe over a door came from? Supposed to be good luck charm.
The fairy folk can't bear iron, (remember this is pre Disney and none of
them are nice.) and it is to keep them from entering your house or barn.
Lucky horseshoes are an early Christian thing.
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Regards
Stephen
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On 08/01/2013 03:07 PM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 01/08/2013 20:42, James Holsenback nous fit lire :
>> Don't want no search engine regurgitation so ... who knows where hanging
>> a horseshoe over a door came from? Supposed to be good luck charm.
>
> without looking it up, I would say that previously *finding* a horseshoe
> was a good luck sign: as horseshoe was expensive to make, it was a
> welcome income soon for the finder (selling it to the local blacksmith
> and sharing part of the benefit with it: the blacksmith would be paid as
> usual by his customers, but the workload would be greatly reduced, hence
> a significant benefit (at least on daily food & coal for the blacksmith,
> which, on a non-profit-religious-area (non-selfish) would share with his
> finding friend))
>
> Hanging horseshoe would then be a sort of treasure's display: the owner
> of the barn/house/.. showing to everyone that he has been lucky (and as
> superstitious people often believe: luck calls more lucks, troubles more
> troubles; so the owner was to be lucky in business and as such became
> worthy of more business (because his luck would spill on his
> customers/providers too, so better him than someone else))
>
Generally speaking I'd say that finding /anything/ is lucky ... well I
suppose that finding a beehive /might/ not be. So I'm not sure that
finding a horseshoe is what makes it lucky.
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On 08/01/2013 03:09 PM, Shay wrote:
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>
> "James Holsenback" wrote in message news:51faac17$1@news.povray.org...
>
>> Don't want no search engine regurgitation so ... who knows where
>> hanging a horseshoe over a door came from? Supposed to be good luck
>> charm.
>
> Can I ask my mom?
>
> I think it's a Catholic thing. We had them when I was a kid. Supposed to
> keep the devil out, though nobody in my family is that literal about
> religion.
>
> My mother always said up to hold in your good luck, down to let out
> (change) your bad luck. She'd flip it up when she was feeling lucky.
> She'd know the origin if I asked--she loves superstition and etymology.
I've always heard that they go up to hold luck in ... never about down
to change luck. I kind of like that idea! Yes ... please do ask her!
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On 08/01/2013 03:14 PM, Samuel Benge wrote:
> James Holsenback <nom### [at] none com> wrote:
>> Don't want no search engine regurgitation so ... who knows where hanging
>> a horseshoe over a door came from? Supposed to be good luck charm.
>
> Just guessing... was it to keep people from slamming the door? You know, balance
> the horseshoe precariously so it falls easily? No, it couldn't be that... too
> harsh ;)
>
> Sam
>
LOL .. where's the luck in that!
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On 08/01/2013 03:24 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 01/08/2013 7:42 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
>> Don't want no search engine regurgitation so ... who knows where hanging
>> a horseshoe over a door came from? Supposed to be good luck charm.
>
> The fairy folk can't bear iron, (remember this is pre Disney and none of
> them are nice.) and it is to keep them from entering your house or barn.
> Lucky horseshoes are an early Christian thing.
>
I think you're on to something ... it's a /very/ old supersition
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Le 01/08/2013 22:04, James Holsenback nous fit lire :
> On 08/01/2013 03:07 PM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>> Le 01/08/2013 20:42, James Holsenback nous fit lire :
>>> Don't want no search engine regurgitation so ... who knows where hanging
>>> a horseshoe over a door came from? Supposed to be good luck charm.
>>
>> without looking it up, I would say that previously *finding* a horseshoe
>> was a good luck sign: as horseshoe was expensive to make, it was a
>> welcome income soon for the finder (selling it to the local blacksmith
>> and sharing part of the benefit with it: the blacksmith would be paid as
>> usual by his customers, but the workload would be greatly reduced, hence
>> a significant benefit (at least on daily food & coal for the blacksmith,
>> which, on a non-profit-religious-area (non-selfish) would share with his
>> finding friend))
>>
>> Hanging horseshoe would then be a sort of treasure's display: the owner
>> of the barn/house/.. showing to everyone that he has been lucky (and as
>> superstitious people often believe: luck calls more lucks, troubles more
>> troubles; so the owner was to be lucky in business and as such became
>> worthy of more business (because his luck would spill on his
>> customers/providers too, so better him than someone else))
>>
>
> Generally speaking I'd say that finding /anything/ is lucky ... well I
> suppose that finding a beehive /might/ not be. So I'm not sure that
> finding a horseshoe is what makes it lucky.
Would finding a purse with many coins, when the daily pay may be as low
as 1 coin, be lucky ?
Iron was expensive. Manufactured iron as horseshoe was really not cheap.
Oh look, you found one...
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On 01/08/2013 09:04 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> Generally speaking I'd say that finding /anything/ is lucky ... well I
> suppose that finding a beehive /might/ not be. So I'm not sure that
> finding a horseshoe is what makes it lucky.
Are you kidding? Beehives are valuable enough that people go out and
*steal* them...
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Le 2013-08-01 15:07, Le_Forgeron a écrit :
> Le 01/08/2013 20:42, James Holsenback nous fit lire :
>> Don't want no search engine regurgitation so ... who knows where hanging
>> a horseshoe over a door came from? Supposed to be good luck charm.
>
> without looking it up, I would say that previously *finding* a horseshoe
> was a good luck sign: as horseshoe was expensive to make, it was a
> welcome income soon for the finder (selling it to the local blacksmith
> and sharing part of the benefit with it: the blacksmith would be paid as
> usual by his customers, but the workload would be greatly reduced, hence
> a significant benefit (at least on daily food & coal for the blacksmith,
> which, on a non-profit-religious-area (non-selfish) would share with his
> finding friend))
>
> Hanging horseshoe would then be a sort of treasure's display: the owner
> of the barn/house/.. showing to everyone that he has been lucky (and as
> superstitious people often believe: luck calls more lucks, troubles more
> troubles; so the owner was to be lucky in business and as such became
> worthy of more business (because his luck would spill on his
> customers/providers too, so better him than someone else))
>
Why am I not surprised that someone whose nickname is "Le Forgeron"
would know... ;)
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On 08/01/2013 04:56 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 01/08/2013 09:04 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
>> Generally speaking I'd say that finding /anything/ is lucky ... well I
>> suppose that finding a beehive /might/ not be. So I'm not sure that
>> finding a horseshoe is what makes it lucky.
>
> Are you kidding? Beehives are valuable enough that people go out and
> *steal* them...
True enough. I suppose it boils down your frame of reference. I used to
keep bee's ... found a wild hive that I thought I'd like to introduce
into my domestic hives. Wasn't a very lucky experience.
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On 08/01/2013 04:32 PM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 01/08/2013 22:04, James Holsenback nous fit lire :
>> On 08/01/2013 03:07 PM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>>> Le 01/08/2013 20:42, James Holsenback nous fit lire :
>>>> Don't want no search engine regurgitation so ... who knows where hanging
>>>> a horseshoe over a door came from? Supposed to be good luck charm.
>>>
>>> without looking it up, I would say that previously *finding* a horseshoe
>>> was a good luck sign: as horseshoe was expensive to make, it was a
>>> welcome income soon for the finder (selling it to the local blacksmith
>>> and sharing part of the benefit with it: the blacksmith would be paid as
>>> usual by his customers, but the workload would be greatly reduced, hence
>>> a significant benefit (at least on daily food & coal for the blacksmith,
>>> which, on a non-profit-religious-area (non-selfish) would share with his
>>> finding friend))
>>>
>>> Hanging horseshoe would then be a sort of treasure's display: the owner
>>> of the barn/house/.. showing to everyone that he has been lucky (and as
>>> superstitious people often believe: luck calls more lucks, troubles more
>>> troubles; so the owner was to be lucky in business and as such became
>>> worthy of more business (because his luck would spill on his
>>> customers/providers too, so better him than someone else))
>>>
>>
>> Generally speaking I'd say that finding /anything/ is lucky ... well I
>> suppose that finding a beehive /might/ not be. So I'm not sure that
>> finding a horseshoe is what makes it lucky.
>
> Would finding a purse with many coins, when the daily pay may be as low
> as 1 coin, be lucky ?
>
> Iron was expensive. Manufactured iron as horseshoe was really not cheap.
> Oh look, you found one...
>
OK ... I concede. Now that I think about it a bit this kind of ties into
the age of the notion of horseshoe and luck
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