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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Civilian control of the military in the US
Date: 28 Jan 2013 18:35:10
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Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:

> > John VanSickle <evi### [at] kosherhotmailcom> wrote:
> >> Running for president is a full-time job, plus some.  Being an
> >> active-duty general is a full-time job, plus some.
> >
> > That may be so in practice, but in theory I don't think there's any
> > reason (legal or otherwise) why a military officer couldn't be elected
> > as the president (due to some unfathomable turn of events.)

> Campaigning for a federal office is a full time job for at leasth 18 months.

How does that change what I said?

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Civilian control of the military in the US
Date: 29 Jan 2013 09:15:27
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> Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:

>>> John VanSickle <evi### [at] kosherhotmailcom> wrote:
>>>> Running for president is a full-time job, plus some.  Being an
>>>> active-duty general is a full-time job, plus some.
>>>
>>> That may be so in practice, but in theory I don't think there's any
>>> reason (legal or otherwise) why a military officer couldn't be elected
>>> as the president (due to some unfathomable turn of events.)
>
>> Campaigning for a federal office is a full time job for at leasth 18 months.
>
> How does that change what I said?
>

It changes that at the time of his election, he would no longer be a 
military officer, since he would have been dishonorably discharged a 
year prior.

A military officer who wants to pursue a political carreer is much 
better to retire than get fired, don't you think?

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Civilian control of the military in the US
Date: 29 Jan 2013 10:27:11
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Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:

> > Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:

> >>> John VanSickle <evi### [at] kosherhotmailcom> wrote:
> >>>> Running for president is a full-time job, plus some.  Being an
> >>>> active-duty general is a full-time job, plus some.
> >>>
> >>> That may be so in practice, but in theory I don't think there's any
> >>> reason (legal or otherwise) why a military officer couldn't be elected
> >>> as the president (due to some unfathomable turn of events.)
> >
> >> Campaigning for a federal office is a full time job for at leasth 18 months.
> >
> > How does that change what I said?
> >

> It changes that at the time of his election, he would no longer be a 
> military officer, since he would have been dishonorably discharged a 
> year prior.

You seem to be saying that it's impossible for a person to be elected
president unless they engage in a full-time campaigning job.

Why? Is there a law that I don't know of that precludes anybody who does
not campaign to be elected president?

As I said: It may be impossible *in practice* for someone to get elected
without running a campaign (for the simple reason that people don't get
to know the candidate), but in theory there's no reason why a military
officer couldn't be elected president out-of-the-blue. Unless a weird law
explicitly says that it's prohibited.

In how many ways do I have to phrase this before it's understood?

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Civilian control of the military in the US
Date: 31 Jan 2013 09:03:04
Message: <510a7998@news.povray.org>

> Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:

>>> Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:

>>>>> John VanSickle <evi### [at] kosherhotmailcom> wrote:
>>>>>> Running for president is a full-time job, plus some.  Being an
>>>>>> active-duty general is a full-time job, plus some.
>>>>>
>>>>> That may be so in practice, but in theory I don't think there's any
>>>>> reason (legal or otherwise) why a military officer couldn't be elected
>>>>> as the president (due to some unfathomable turn of events.)
>>>
>>>> Campaigning for a federal office is a full time job for at leasth 18 months.
>>>
>>> How does that change what I said?
>>>
>
>> It changes that at the time of his election, he would no longer be a
>> military officer, since he would have been dishonorably discharged a
>> year prior.
>
> You seem to be saying that it's impossible for a person to be elected
> president unless they engage in a full-time campaigning job.
>
> Why? Is there a law that I don't know of that precludes anybody who does
> not campaign to be elected president?
>
> As I said: It may be impossible *in practice* for someone to get elected
> without running a campaign (for the simple reason that people don't get
> to know the candidate), but in theory there's no reason why a military
> officer couldn't be elected president out-of-the-blue. Unless a weird law
> explicitly says that it's prohibited.
>
> In how many ways do I have to phrase this before it's understood?
>

It was understood.  In fact, I think I've said twice already that there 
are no laws preventing it.

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