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From: clipka
Subject: Re: This week's WTF moment
Date: 18 Jan 2013 11:53:41
Message: <50f97e15$1@news.povray.org>
Am 18.01.2013 16:53, schrieb Warp:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> See my recent speculations: I really think they /want/ to give away the
>> stuff away for free for anyone to try, with the aim to get people hooked
>> to buy the newer versions (note the CS6 advertisement on the page!), but
>> can't do so legally due to some 3rd party intellectual property in CS2.
>> Codecs, color management stuff, fonts - whatever.
>
> Exactly which law supports the notion that "you can use my intellectual
> property in a commercial program but not in a free (but closed-source)
> program"?
>
> If Adobe has acquired the license eg. for a library for commercial purposes,
> what kind of law would stop them from not charging any money for the
> softare? (And why would the library owner care, as long as Adobe pays them
> the proper licensing fees?)

You know, some license fees are due on a per-copy basis (actually I 
/think/ it's pretty common). And I do /not/ think that Adobe would want 
to /pay/ for people to use their old software.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: This week's WTF moment
Date: 18 Jan 2013 14:53:55
Message: <50F9A858.1040902@gmail.com>
On 18-1-2013 15:43, Francois Labreque wrote:
> Le 2013-01-16 19:40, Jim Henderson a écrit :
>> Well, there are plenty of companies that take old versions and make then
>> available for free - or commercial products that are now OSS (Blender,
>> for example).
>
> Blender - the software - has been free for as long as I remember.
> Initially, the company thought they would make money from sales of the
> user manual.  Like RedHat makes money from selling Linux support to
> large companies.


http://www.blender.org/blenderorg/blender-foundation/history/

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it is a strong indication that non-scientific factors play a role
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: This week's WTF moment
Date: 18 Jan 2013 15:24:26
Message: <50f9af7a$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:43:35 -0500, Francois Labreque wrote:

> Le 2013-01-16 19:40, Jim Henderson a écrit :
>> Well, there are plenty of companies that take old versions and make
>> then available for free - or commercial products that are now OSS
>> (Blender, for example).
> 
> Blender - the software - has been free for as long as I remember.
> Initially, the company thought they would make money from sales of the
> user manual.  Like RedHat makes money from selling Linux support to
> large companies.

What I recall, Blender was once a commercial closed-source product, and 
the community bought the rights to distribute it as open source.

But I don't honestly know the specifics of the history prior to it 
becoming open source.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: This week's WTF moment
Date: 18 Jan 2013 15:25:33
Message: <50f9afbd$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:53:34 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Exactly which law supports the notion that "you can use my intellectual
> property in a commercial program but not in a free (but closed-source)
> program"?

Could be part of the license terms - not a law.

I know plenty of software that's dual-licensed in such a manner.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: This week's WTF moment
Date: 18 Jan 2013 15:30:23
Message: <50f9b0df$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:25:33 -0500, Jim Henderson wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:53:34 -0500, Warp wrote:
> 
>> Exactly which law supports the notion that "you can use my intellectual
>> property in a commercial program but not in a free (but closed-source)
>> program"?
> 
> Could be part of the license terms - not a law.

Or, for that matter, something they recently renegotiated as part of a 
contract.

Also, see the CC:Non-Commercial license terms.

Jim


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: This week's WTF moment
Date: 19 Jan 2013 20:35:01
Message: <web.50fb491b5f80c8e048591d770@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57562515-263/adobe-releases-creative-suite-2-for-free/

no doubt The Gimp has been eating their lunch and they want to addict new
consumers ;)


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