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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Gibberish
Date: 4 Nov 2012 15:39:00
Message: <5096d264$1@news.povray.org>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU

I believe the phrase is "epic fail".

But then, I guess I'm one of a small band of elite experts, and the 
general populous doesn't know this...


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 4 Nov 2012 20:13:26
Message: <509712b6$1@news.povray.org>
Am 04.11.2012 21:39, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
>
> I believe the phrase is "epic fail".
>
> But then, I guess I'm one of a small band of elite experts, and the
> general populous doesn't know this...

Related (at least according to YouTube): Hilarious take on some other 
epic fail you'll probably all know...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO9J5H9Nm4c&feature=related


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 5 Nov 2012 10:05:12
Message: <5097d5a8$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2012-11-04 15:39, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
>
> I believe the phrase is "epic fail".
>
> But then, I guess I'm one of a small band of elite experts, and the
> general populous doesn't know this...

Exactly.  Grandma wouldn't know this makes no sense at all, and most 
people prefer to see a 10 year old girl "flying" over a wireframe mesh 
of the Jurassic Park building to get to the building they're in and lock 
the doors before the raptors get in than to see Trinity use bash to 
exploit a buffer overflow in ssh v1.0 and hack into the Matrix.

Whle we're on the topic of Epic Fails, as it pertains to computers in 
movies, Goldeneye is really bad for it.  The least of which is the 
persavise IBM product placement through out the movie.  "e-Mail" that 
looks like some sort of kiddie chat with cartoon avatars, viruses that 
make rack modems fizz with sparks, and IBM product placement in the 
least likely places (watch for the OS/2 Warp boot screens all over the 
course of the movie!)
-- 
/*Francois Labreque*/#local a=x+y;#local b=x+a;#local c=a+b;#macro P(F//
/*    flabreque    */L)polygon{5,F,F+z,L+z,L,F pigment{rgb 9}}#end union
/*        @        */{P(0,a)P(a,b)P(b,c)P(2*a,2*b)P(2*b,b+c)P(b+c,<2,3>)
/*   gmail.com     */}camera{orthographic location<6,1.25,-6>look_at a }


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From: Urs Holzer
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 5 Nov 2012 13:28:30
Message: <5098054e@news.povray.org>
Francois Labreque wrote:
> Exactly.  Grandma wouldn't know this makes no sense at all, and most
> people prefer to see a 10 year old girl "flying" over a wireframe mesh
> of the Jurassic Park building to get to the building they're in and
> lock the doors before the raptors get in [...]

Wasn't this a real interface developed by SGI?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 5 Nov 2012 13:44:38
Message: <50980916$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2012-11-05 10:05, Francois Labreque a écrit :
> Le 2012-11-04 15:39, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
>>
>> I believe the phrase is "epic fail".
>>
>> But then, I guess I'm one of a small band of elite experts, and the
>> general populous doesn't know this...
>
> Exactly.  Grandma wouldn't know this makes no sense at all, and most
> people prefer to see a 10 year old girl "flying" over a wireframe mesh
> of the Jurassic Park building to get to the building they're in and lock
> the doors before the raptors get in than to see Trinity use bash to
> exploit a buffer overflow in ssh v1.0 and hack into the Matrix.
>
> Whle we're on the topic of Epic Fails, as it pertains to computers in
> movies, Goldeneye is really bad for it.  The least of which is the
> persavise IBM product placement through out the movie.  "e-Mail" that
> looks like some sort of kiddie chat with cartoon avatars, viruses that
> make rack modems fizz with sparks, and IBM product placement in the
> least likely places (watch for the OS/2 Warp boot screens all over the
> course of the movie!)

And I did an epic fail of my own editing that message!

-- 
/*Francois Labreque*/#local a=x+y;#local b=x+a;#local c=a+b;#macro P(F//
/*    flabreque    */L)polygon{5,F,F+z,L+z,L,F pigment{rgb 9}}#end union
/*        @        */{P(0,a)P(a,b)P(b,c)P(2*a,2*b)P(2*b,b+c)P(b+c,<2,3>)
/*   gmail.com     */}camera{orthographic location<6,1.25,-6>look_at a }


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 5 Nov 2012 13:59:35
Message: <50980c97$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2012-11-05 13:28, Urs Holzer a écrit :
> Francois Labreque wrote:
>> Exactly.  Grandma wouldn't know this makes no sense at all, and most
>> people prefer to see a 10 year old girl "flying" over a wireframe mesh
>> of the Jurassic Park building to get to the building they're in and
>> lock the doors before the raptors get in [...]
>
> Wasn't this a real interface developed by SGI?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn
>
So it was.

The point stands, though, that it was more visually appealing to have 
her use a 3D GUI than a shell.

-- 
/*Francois Labreque*/#local a=x+y;#local b=x+a;#local c=a+b;#macro P(F//
/*    flabreque    */L)polygon{5,F,F+z,L+z,L,F pigment{rgb 9}}#end union
/*        @        */{P(0,a)P(a,b)P(b,c)P(2*a,2*b)P(2*b,b+c)P(b+c,<2,3>)
/*   gmail.com     */}camera{orthographic location<6,1.25,-6>look_at a }


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 5 Nov 2012 14:19:42
Message: <5098114e$1@news.povray.org>
On 05/11/2012 06:44 PM, Francois Labreque wrote:
> And I did an epic fail of my own editing that message!

Yeah, gotta love it when that happens. (Usually while pointing out an 
error in something else...)


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 5 Nov 2012 16:39:46
Message: <50983222@news.povray.org>
>> But then, I guess I'm one of a small band of elite experts, and the
>> general populous doesn't know this...
>
> Exactly. Grandma wouldn't know this makes no sense at all, and most
> people prefer to see a 10 year old girl "flying" over a wireframe mesh
> of the Jurassic Park building to get to the building they're in and lock
> the doors before the raptors get in than to see Trinity use bash to
> exploit a buffer overflow in ssh v1.0 and hack into the Matrix.

To some extent, I can feel the script-writer's dilemma. Watching 
somebody *actually* hack a computer is very uninteresting. There isn't 
really much to see.

This, however, is absolutely no excuse for inserting random gibberish 
into dialogue just because you think nobody will know you're talking 
nonsense. That's just lazy.

Also: I'm pretty damned certain that no matter how much of an elite 
computer nerd you are, you *cannot* actually hack traffic lights. You 
know, seeing as they aren't controlled by a computer in the first place...

> Whle we're on the topic of Epic Fails, as it pertains to computers in
> movies, Goldeneye is really bad for it. The least of which is the
> persavise IBM product placement through out the movie. "e-Mail" that
> looks like some sort of kiddie chat with cartoon avatars, viruses that
> make rack modems fizz with sparks, and IBM product placement in the
> least likely places (watch for the OS/2 Warp boot screens all over the
> course of the movie!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl0LZsyi_tA


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 5 Nov 2012 16:41:54
Message: <509832a2$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/11/2012 08:39 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> I believe the phrase is "epic fail".

THIS is pretty epic, however...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RR5V0rmN4o


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 5 Nov 2012 20:08:37
Message: <50986315$1@news.povray.org>
Am 05.11.2012 22:39, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:

> Also: I'm pretty damned certain that no matter how much of an elite
> computer nerd you are, you *cannot* actually hack traffic lights. You
> know, seeing as they aren't controlled by a computer in the first place...

That probably does depend on the traffic lights in question. In some 
cities, traffic lights are sync'ed to each other to give some traffic 
what we call a "green wave" in Germany, and/or can be remotely operated 
to give priority to emergency vehicles, so I'd guesstimate that by now 
there /are/ traffic lights somewhere in the world (especially in 
megacities) that are controlled by some central traffic management 
computer system.

(Not to mention that even "stand-alone" traffic lights will typically 
have been migrated from hard-wired relay circuitry to microprocessors by 
now.)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 6 Nov 2012 03:31:28
Message: <5098cae0$1@news.povray.org>
> Also: I'm pretty damned certain that no matter how much of an elite
> computer nerd you are, you *cannot* actually hack traffic lights. You
> know, seeing as they aren't controlled by a computer in the first place...

I wonder what the Siemens guy has his laptop connected to then when I 
see him sat next to the traffic light control box in the street?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 6 Nov 2012 08:59:59
Message: <509917df@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU

> I believe the phrase is "epic fail".

Just put random technical words together. As long as it sounds technical,
it's ok.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 9 Nov 2012 14:16:07
Message: <509d5677$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/11/2012 08:31 AM, scott wrote:
>> Also: I'm pretty damned certain that no matter how much of an elite
>> computer nerd you are, you *cannot* actually hack traffic lights. You
>> know, seeing as they aren't controlled by a computer in the first
>> place...
>
> I wonder what the Siemens guy has his laptop connected to then when I
> see him sat next to the traffic light control box in the street?

There might well be a small microcontroller in there working the 
signals. But it's not like it's a standard computer with a full OS and 
Internet connectivity. (Because, let's face it, why would you need a guy 
to stand in the street?)


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 9 Nov 2012 14:17:16
Message: <509d56bc$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/11/2012 01:59 PM, Warp wrote:
> Just put random technical words together. As long as it sounds technical,
> it's ok.

I'm reminded of the incident with the randomly-generated paper that was 
submitted AND ACCEPTED for publication...

Maybe I should try some Marvok chains and see what technobabble I can 
come up with.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 9 Nov 2012 14:41:07
Message: <509d5c53$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
> Also: I'm pretty damned certain that no matter how much of an elite
> computer nerd you are, you *cannot* actually hack traffic lights. You
> know, seeing as they aren't controlled by a computer in the first place...
>

The traffic lights at Helsinki were computerized in the 80's. They have 
been centrally managed and therefore hackable since then.

No, I don't know if the control system is actually reachable from the 
Internet or do you need to sneak in like Ethan Hunt, but if that's the 
case, it's just part of the job.

-Aero


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 9 Nov 2012 15:49:00
Message: <509d6c3c$1@news.povray.org>
On 09/11/2012 7:16 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> There might well be a small microcontroller in there working the
> signals.

Snob! :-P

But it's not like it's a standard computer with a full OS and
> Internet connectivity. (Because, let's face it, why would you need a guy
> to stand in the street?)

Security, maybe.


-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Sherry K  Shaw
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 9 Nov 2012 15:51:22
Message: <509d6cca$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
> Also: I'm pretty damned certain that no matter how much of an elite
> computer nerd you are, you *cannot* actually hack traffic lights. You
> know, seeing as they aren't controlled by a computer in the first place...
>

Choreographing the Dance of Traffic Lights
By CATHERINE GREENMAN
Published: September 17, 1998

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/17/technology/choreographing-the-dance-of-traffic-lights.html


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 9 Nov 2012 16:22:00
Message: <509d73f8$1@news.povray.org>
On 09/11/2012 8:51 PM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
> Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>
>> Also: I'm pretty damned certain that no matter how much of an elite
>> computer nerd you are, you *cannot* actually hack traffic lights. You
>> know, seeing as they aren't controlled by a computer in the first
>> place...
>>
>
> Choreographing the Dance of Traffic Lights
> By CATHERINE GREENMAN
> Published: September 17, 1998
>
>
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/17/technology/choreographing-the-dance-of-traffic-lights.html
>
>

Balderdash and piffle!
Can't possibly be so as he who knows everything says it isn't. ;-)

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Sherry K  Shaw
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 10 Nov 2012 16:40:34
Message: <509ec9d2$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On 09/11/2012 8:51 PM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
>> Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>>
>>> Also: I'm pretty damned certain that no matter how much of an elite
>>> computer nerd you are, you *cannot* actually hack traffic lights. You
>>> know, seeing as they aren't controlled by a computer in the first
>>> place...
>>>
>>
>> Choreographing the Dance of Traffic Lights
>> By CATHERINE GREENMAN
>> Published: September 17, 1998
>>
>>
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/17/technology/choreographing-the-dance-of-traffic-lights.html
>>
>>
>>
>
> Balderdash and piffle!
> Can't possibly be so as he who knows everything says it isn't. ;-)
>

Oddly enough, it appears that Springfield, Missouri, started modernizing 
their traffic control at about the same time:
http://www.springfieldmo.gov/traffic/tmc.html

Also, page 66 of the following document suggests that even some quaint 
and colorful native communities on exotic, mysterious islands are 
beginning to take steps in this direction:
http://www.milton-keynes.gov.uk/transport/documents/Milton_Keynes_LTP3_Main_Report_Final_Draft_V10_JTH.pdf

;)

--Sherry Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Gibberish
Date: 10 Nov 2012 16:50:54
Message: <509ecc3e$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/11/2012 9:40 PM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> On 09/11/2012 8:51 PM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
>>> Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also: I'm pretty damned certain that no matter how much of an elite
>>>> computer nerd you are, you *cannot* actually hack traffic lights. You
>>>> know, seeing as they aren't controlled by a computer in the first
>>>> place...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Choreographing the Dance of Traffic Lights
>>> By CATHERINE GREENMAN
>>> Published: September 17, 1998
>>>
>>>
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/17/technology/choreographing-the-dance-of-traffic-lights.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Balderdash and piffle!
>> Can't possibly be so as he who knows everything says it isn't. ;-)
>>
>
> Oddly enough, it appears that Springfield, Missouri, started modernizing
> their traffic control at about the same time:
> http://www.springfieldmo.gov/traffic/tmc.html
>

Nah! I've seen the movie and Homer stopped at traffic lights in it. ;-)


> Also, page 66 of the following document suggests that even some quaint
> and colorful native communities on exotic, mysterious islands are
> beginning to take steps in this direction:
>
http://www.milton-keynes.gov.uk/transport/documents/Milton_Keynes_LTP3_Main_Report_Final_Draft_V10_JTH.pdf
>
>
> ;)
>

Well at last they are doing something to protect their concrete cows. :-)


-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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