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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> >> If you think the story doesn't /make sense/, you're clearly doing
> >> something very, very wrong.
> >
> > says the dude who wouldn't figure out the narrative arc from monkeys to space in
> > A Space Odissey... -_-
> 2001 starts nowhere, goes nowhere, and ends up nowhere. It's almost
> /literally/ a series of random shots with no connecting narrative at
> all. (Except the middle part on the space station. /That/ almost makes
> sense.)
Just because you refuse to understand the movie doesn't mean it's not
possible (or even easy) to understand.
(And the end sequence is not even supposed to be understood. It's just
random.)
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Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Are you telling me you don't love Bambi?
What is love?
It's a human emotion.
No, it is a word. What matters is the connection the word implies.
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>> 2001 starts nowhere, goes nowhere, and ends up nowhere. It's almost
>> /literally/ a series of random shots with no connecting narrative at
>> all. (Except the middle part on the space station. /That/ almost makes
>> sense.)
>>
> The book has more of a beginning, middle and end than the film. I've
> just finished listening to the audiobooks of 2001 & 2010.
I think I read the sequel, and that seemed reasonably sane.
> BTW do you drive through Northampton on the way home from work? On
> Monday or Tuesday I saw someone who looked like you in my rear view
> mirror when I was stopped at traffic lights.
I drive /past/ Northampton. I don't actually drive /into/ Northampton.
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>> 2001 starts nowhere, goes nowhere, and ends up nowhere. It's almost
>> /literally/ a series of random shots with no connecting narrative at
>> all. (Except the middle part on the space station. /That/ almost makes
>> sense.)
>
> Just because you refuse to understand the movie doesn't mean it's not
> possible (or even easy) to understand.
>
> (And the end sequence is not even supposed to be understood. It's just
> random.)
So the end sequence is "not even supposed to be understood", and that's
me "refusing to understand"?
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> 2001 starts nowhere, goes nowhere, and ends up nowhere. It's almost
> >> /literally/ a series of random shots with no connecting narrative at
> >> all. (Except the middle part on the space station. /That/ almost makes
> >> sense.)
> >
> > Just because you refuse to understand the movie doesn't mean it's not
> > possible (or even easy) to understand.
> >
> > (And the end sequence is not even supposed to be understood. It's just
> > random.)
> So the end sequence is "not even supposed to be understood", and that's
> me "refusing to understand"?
You are not talking just about the end sequence. You didn't say "everything
else is quite clear, but the end sequence is very hard to understand."
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On 7/26/2012 23:53, Warp wrote:
> (And the end sequence is not even supposed to be understood. It's just
> random.)
I would more say it's intended to be understood by the audience as something
beyond understanding.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
"Don't panic. There's beans and filters
in the cabinet."
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On 7/26/2012 12:46, andrel wrote:
> On 26-7-2012 18:15, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> On 26/07/2012 03:33 PM, clipka wrote:
>
>>
>> Are you telling me you don't love Bambi?
>>
>
> I don't like the fact that the mother and father are apparently in a sort of
> monogamous relation and that Bambi knows who his father is.
You mean, that Bambi marries his sister? (Well, substitute a rude word for
"marries" there.)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
"Don't panic. There's beans and filters
in the cabinet."
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On 2012-07-27 01:53, Warp wrote:
> (And the end sequence is not even supposed to be understood. It's just
> random.)
You've not read the book, I take it.
The book was written in conjunction with the movie, and quite clearly
explains what's going on in the scenes in the end sequence.
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.sjcook.com
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On 27/07/2012 9:24 AM, Invisible wrote:
> I drive /past/ Northampton. I don't actually drive /into/ Northampton.
It could not have been you, then.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 7/27/2012 19:41, Tim Cook wrote:
> The book was written in conjunction with the movie, and quite clearly
> explains what's going on in the scenes in the end sequence.
There's a difference between "it explains what's going on" and "you're
supposed to understand it."
Consider, for example, the typical time-travel paradox story. It can explain
what happens quite clearly without you understanding what's going on.
The sequence at the end of 2001 is the hyper-intelligent alien whatever
magically transporting Dave. Even tho Dave says "it's full of stars", you
aren't necessarily understanding *how* or *why* it is full of stars.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
"Don't panic. There's beans and filters
in the cabinet."
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