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Until I saw this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifp_SVrlurY&feature=related
Holy crap ... Prince tears it up in his solo (near the end)
Jeff Lynne and Tom Petty were the perfect choices for vocals in this R&R
HoF version of a George Harrison tune ... Bonus points for anyone who
knows how else these three were tied together.
Out-Freakin-Standing!
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On 6/24/2012 16:59, James Holsenback wrote:
> Holy crap ... Prince tears it up in his solo (near the end)
Not sure I'd call that a solo, mind...
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On 06/24/2012 10:49 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 6/24/2012 16:59, James Holsenback wrote:
>> Holy crap ... Prince tears it up in his solo (near the end)
>
> Not sure I'd call that a solo, mind...
OooooKay ...perhaps you mistook that guitar he was picking for his nose?
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Le 2012-06-24 19:59, James Holsenback a écrit :
> Until I saw this:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifp_SVrlurY&feature=related
>
> Holy crap ... Prince tears it up in his solo (near the end)
Prince can play a mean guitar when he wants to.
>
> Jeff Lynne and Tom Petty were the perfect choices for vocals in this R&R
> HoF version of a George Harrison tune ... Bonus points for anyone who
> knows how else these three were tied together.
>
That's easy. The Travelling Wilburys.
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On 25/06/2012 12:59 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
> Holy crap ... Prince tears it up in his solo (near the end)
> Out-Freakin-Standing!
Yeah... I'm unimpressed. Maybe because the sound quality is so poor I
can barely *hear* any guitar... maybe I just don't like Prince. :-P
Personally, I found this more impressive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYabmM-uxdE
(Although it does go on a bit.) Similarly, maybe something like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N82TLB03Vk
for being moody rather than fast and furious.
At the other end of the spectrum, if you want "burning guitars", I defy
you to beat this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTBccgJBCQ
(It's quite a long way in. Fast-forward to 3:45 if you're impatient.)
The first time I listened to this track, I wasn't completely paying
attention. By the end, I damned-well was!
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Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Personally, I found this more impressive:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYabmM-uxdE
If you like melodic guitar solos (rather than mindless shredding) you
should try Satriani:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GfVbHLivXg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0655gBAvRnA
And for something more impressive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz3JhKXJDTM
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:37:57 -0400, Warp wrote:
> If you like melodic guitar solos (rather than mindless shredding) you
> should try Satriani:
Absolutely agreed.
"Midnight" is one of my favourite tracks /ever/ because it shows real
skill.
Then again, Satriani is well known not just as a performer, but as a
teacher.
Jim
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:54:39 -0400, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:37:57 -0400, Warp wrote:
>
>> If you like melodic guitar solos (rather than mindless shredding) you
>> should try Satriani:
>
> Absolutely agreed.
>
> "Midnight" is one of my favourite tracks /ever/ because it shows real
> skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gD1ff6NIKk
Jim
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On 06/26/2012 04:54 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:37:57 -0400, Warp wrote:
>
>> If you like melodic guitar solos (rather than mindless shredding) you
>> should try Satriani:
>
> Absolutely agreed.
Concur ... LOL I've been in some pretty heated discussions about whose
the best, and in hind-sight I think it really boils down to the type of
music you like. There are a few artists that kind of cross those
boundaries, for instance Roy Clark ... I mean the dude can play the
banjo. I like the mandolin and dobro as well. I can't place the guys
name, but he plays with Alison Krauss ... both he and Clapton are pretty
good on the dobro. I think I favor the technician over the flash, but I
do enjoy the showmanship aspect too. Ron Wood certainly would not be
included (by some) on any top ten list, but on the Bridges of Babylon
DVD he had this camera mounted on the neck of his guitar ... was cool
looking down the fretboard and seeing a close-up of his finger work!
Jim
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:52:28 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 06/26/2012 04:54 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:37:57 -0400, Warp wrote:
>>
>>> If you like melodic guitar solos (rather than mindless shredding)
>>> you
>>> should try Satriani:
>>
>> Absolutely agreed.
>
> Concur ... LOL I've been in some pretty heated discussions about whose
> the best, and in hind-sight I think it really boils down to the type of
> music you like. There are a few artists that kind of cross those
> boundaries, for instance Roy Clark ... I mean the dude can play the
> banjo. I like the mandolin and dobro as well. I can't place the guys
> name, but he plays with Alison Krauss ... both he and Clapton are pretty
> good on the dobro. I think I favor the technician over the flash, but I
> do enjoy the showmanship aspect too. Ron Wood certainly would not be
> included (by some) on any top ten list, but on the Bridges of Babylon
> DVD he had this camera mounted on the neck of his guitar ... was cool
> looking down the fretboard and seeing a close-up of his finger work!
Another that I really like listening to is Bela Fleck. Some of his banjo
(yes, banjo) performances of classical works are unbelievably good.
Jim
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On 26/06/2012 09:37 PM, Warp wrote:
> If you like melodic guitar solos (rather than mindless shredding) you
> should try Satriani:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GfVbHLivXg
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0655gBAvRnA
Some talented guitar playing, certainly. Personally, it's not my thing.
Out of curiosity... how do you actually make a guitar sound like that? I
mean, when *I* try to play guitar, it sounds nothing like that. Almost
everybody can jam their fingers into the shape of a chord and scrub the
strings like a washboard, but playing a *melody* is another matter. I
can just about stumble through a few simple tunes, but it seems
impossibly difficult to keep all the strings muted...
> And for something more impressive:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz3JhKXJDTM
Would be more impressive if it didn't look mimed.
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On 26/06/2012 10:05 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gD1ff6NIKk
Hmm. I think he might have done this before...
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I don't like everything Pink Floyd have ever done. (Actually, I'm
hard-pressed to think of /any/ artist who has never done anything I
dislike...) I'm generally not a fan of their more recent, more
depressive stuff. However,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zijN2r3ZKI
This is really, really damned slick. YouTube does not do the dynamics
justice...
Damned if I'll ever write anything this good, nor perform it.
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:36:34 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 26/06/2012 10:05 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gD1ff6NIKk
>
> Hmm. I think he might have done this before...
Just once or twice. The earliest video is from '88 IIRC. I have it on
the album "Surfing with the Alien" (which this thread prompted me to
listen to again).
Jim
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Le 2012-06-27 16:34, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
> On 26/06/2012 09:37 PM, Warp wrote:
>
>> If you like melodic guitar solos (rather than mindless shredding) you
>> should try Satriani:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GfVbHLivXg
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0655gBAvRnA
>
> Some talented guitar playing, certainly. Personally, it's not my thing.
>
> Out of curiosity... how do you actually make a guitar sound like that? I
> mean, when *I* try to play guitar, it sounds nothing like that. Almost
> everybody can jam their fingers into the shape of a chord and scrub the
> strings like a washboard, but playing a *melody* is another matter. I
> can just about stumble through a few simple tunes, but it seems
> impossibly difficult to keep all the strings muted...
>
I can't play the drums, unless it's boom-tsch-boom-tsch-boom-tsch
because I can't get my arms to do two different things at the same time,
but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
And even then the pros will sometimes make little mistakes. Just listen
to Starway to Heaven and you'll hear Jimmy Page zipping his left-hand
fingers on the strings. So much so that I've seen .MID files of the
song with a "zip" track to reproduce it faithfully.
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Am 27.06.2012 22:34, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:
> Out of curiosity... how do you actually make a guitar sound like that? I
> mean, when *I* try to play guitar, it sounds nothing like that. Almost
> everybody can jam their fingers into the shape of a chord and scrub the
> strings like a washboard, but playing a *melody* is another matter. I
> can just about stumble through a few simple tunes, but it seems
> impossibly difficult to keep all the strings muted...
It's all a matter of practice. In my imagination, the roadmap is as
follows: First you train chords until your left hand can go on
automatic, so that you can concentrate on your right hand work. Switch
from washboard strumming to simple fingerpicking patterns. Exercise
until your right-hand fingers can go on automatic as well (including
suitable pattern changes when you change chords). Now you can
concentrate on occasional variations, such as picking a note here and
there that's not in the regular chords. Exercise, and with enough
variations you suddenly have a melody. Muting is not always necessary,
as long as the strings sound in harmony, but of course with extra
training you can also train your left-hand fingers to gently touch the
strings in such a way that they go mute, rather than pressing them down
firmly as you'd normally do. Right hand can do some muting effects, too,
of course.
Keep in mind that it is absolutely /impossible/ to /consciously/ move
your fingers with the required speed, coordination and precision; your
cerebrum is much too slow and fuzzy for the job. You need to put your
cerebellum in control, and that means training, training and more training.
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On 06/28/2012 09:34 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:
> I can't get my arms to do two different things at the same time,
> but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
Hey what about playing guitar and harmonica at the same time. Now that's
GOT to be tough ... I can only think of a few people who can do that ...
well only one comes to mind (Neil Young) now that I'm trying to recall
... didn't Dylan do that as well?
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:21:41 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 06/28/2012 09:34 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:
>> I can't get my arms to do two different things at the same time,
>> but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
>
> Hey what about playing guitar and harmonica at the same time. Now that's
> GOT to be tough ... I can only think of a few people who can do that ...
> well only one comes to mind (Neil Young) now that I'm trying to recall
> ... didn't Dylan do that as well?
Yep. And Eric Idle did a parody of it in "Not the Messiah" that was
quite funny.
Jim
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On 28/06/2012 6:21 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> Hey what about playing guitar and harmonica at the same time. Now that's
> GOT to be tough ... I can only think of a few people who can do that ...
> well only one comes to mind (Neil Young) now that I'm trying to recall
> ... didn't Dylan do that as well?
How about Don Partridge who got into the British charts in the late 60s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bym6J_TCNTE
And when he passed away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAVc9oxzoR0&feature=related
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 28/06/2012 06:21 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 06/28/2012 09:34 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:
>> I can't get my arms to do two different things at the same time,
>> but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
>
> Hey what about playing guitar and harmonica at the same time. Now that's
> GOT to be tough ...
Why play just TWO instruments when you can play THREE? :-P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU
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On 28/06/2012 07:57 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Why play just TWO instruments when you can play THREE? :-P
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU
Also: This image is ridiculously easy to Google...
Also: People freak out when the keyboard player in a band plays TWO
KEYBOARDS AT ONCE! ZOMG! Little do they realise this, but the organist
at your local church has probably been playing THREE at once for
decades! :-P
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:07:07 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 28/06/2012 07:57 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
>> Why play just TWO instruments when you can play THREE? :-P
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU
>
> Also: This image is ridiculously easy to Google...
>
> Also: People freak out when the keyboard player in a band plays TWO
> KEYBOARDS AT ONCE! ZOMG! Little do they realise this, but the organist
> at your local church has probably been playing THREE at once for
> decades! :-P
In Yanni's performance at the Acropolis, he has 6 IIRC (have to check the
video when I have some time).
The arrangement of the keyboards is interesting to say the least.
Jim
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Am 28.06.2012 19:21, schrieb James Holsenback:
> On 06/28/2012 09:34 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:
>> I can't get my arms to do two different things at the same time,
>> but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
>
> Hey what about playing guitar and harmonica at the same time. Now that's
> GOT to be tough ... I can only think of a few people who can do that ...
> well only one comes to mind (Neil Young) now that I'm trying to recall
> ... didn't Dylan do that as well?
Actually quite a classic outfit for buskers (Dylan started his career as
one, by the way). Although classic-of-classics outfit tops it off with
percussion.
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On 6/25/2012 4:28, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 06/24/2012 10:49 PM, Darren New wrote:
>> On 6/24/2012 16:59, James Holsenback wrote:
>>> Holy crap ... Prince tears it up in his solo (near the end)
>>
>> Not sure I'd call that a solo, mind...
>
> OooooKay ...perhaps you mistook that guitar he was picking for his nose?
No, solo means "by yourself." It's kind of built into the word. If you have
a bunch of people accompanying you, it's no longer a solo. You don't call
it a drum solo when there is a bunch of music and just one guy playing
drums, right?
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"Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
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>> Also: People freak out when the keyboard player in a band plays TWO
>> KEYBOARDS AT ONCE! ZOMG! Little do they realise this, but the organist
>> at your local church has probably been playing THREE at once for
>> decades! :-P
>
> In Yanni's performance at the Acropolis, he has 6 IIRC (have to check the
> video when I have some time).
>
> The arrangement of the keyboards is interesting to say the least.
Perhaps you mean like this?
http://tinyurl.com/7kcuh26
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:18:33 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Also: People freak out when the keyboard player in a band plays TWO
>>> KEYBOARDS AT ONCE! ZOMG! Little do they realise this, but the organist
>>> at your local church has probably been playing THREE at once for
>>> decades! :-P
>>
>> In Yanni's performance at the Acropolis, he has 6 IIRC (have to check
>> the video when I have some time).
>>
>> The arrangement of the keyboards is interesting to say the least.
>
> Perhaps you mean like this?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7kcuh26
Well, the layout he used was different - two in front, two to the left,
two to the right.
Jim
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:18:33 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Also: People freak out when the keyboard player in a band plays TWO
>>> KEYBOARDS AT ONCE! ZOMG! Little do they realise this, but the organist
>>> at your local church has probably been playing THREE at once for
>>> decades! :-P
>>
>> In Yanni's performance at the Acropolis, he has 6 IIRC (have to check
>> the video when I have some time).
>>
>> The arrangement of the keyboards is interesting to say the least.
>
> Perhaps you mean like this?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7kcuh26
Oh, and actually on that one, I count 7 including the foot pedals. :P
Jim
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>>> In Yanni's performance at the Acropolis, he has 6 IIRC (have to check
>>> the video when I have some time).
>>>
>>> The arrangement of the keyboards is interesting to say the least.
>>
>> Perhaps you mean like this?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/7kcuh26
>
> Oh, and actually on that one, I count 7 including the foot pedals. :P
That's kind of my point. Whatever stage musicians have done, the humble
organist has already done it. ;-)
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On 06/28/2012 09:07 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 6/25/2012 4:28, James Holsenback wrote:
>> On 06/24/2012 10:49 PM, Darren New wrote:
>>> On 6/24/2012 16:59, James Holsenback wrote:
>>>> Holy crap ... Prince tears it up in his solo (near the end)
>>>
>>> Not sure I'd call that a solo, mind...
>>
>> OooooKay ...perhaps you mistook that guitar he was picking for his nose?
>
> No, solo means "by yourself." It's kind of built into the word. If you
> have a bunch of people accompanying you, it's no longer a solo. You
> don't call it a drum solo when there is a bunch of music and just one
> guy playing drums, right?
OK ... in the strictest sense you would be correct. I think you know
what I meant. I'm latching onto the notice that a solo is when someone
puts himself out front, or the camera if there is one moves in tight on
the artist and he does a little flourish or whatever, that lasts for
more than a couple of seconds. LOL ... instigator ;-)
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:57:45 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>>>> In Yanni's performance at the Acropolis, he has 6 IIRC (have to check
>>>> the video when I have some time).
>>>>
>>>> The arrangement of the keyboards is interesting to say the least.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you mean like this?
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/7kcuh26
>>
>> Oh, and actually on that one, I count 7 including the foot pedals. :P
>
> That's kind of my point. Whatever stage musicians have done, the humble
> organist has already done it. ;-)
Theremin. :P
Jim
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On 6/29/2012 6:36, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 06/28/2012 09:07 PM, Darren New wrote:
>> On 6/25/2012 4:28, James Holsenback wrote:
>>> On 06/24/2012 10:49 PM, Darren New wrote:
>>>> On 6/24/2012 16:59, James Holsenback wrote:
>>>>> Holy crap ... Prince tears it up in his solo (near the end)
>>>>
>>>> Not sure I'd call that a solo, mind...
>>>
>>> OooooKay ...perhaps you mistook that guitar he was picking for his nose?
>>
>> No, solo means "by yourself." It's kind of built into the word. If you
>> have a bunch of people accompanying you, it's no longer a solo. You
>> don't call it a drum solo when there is a bunch of music and just one
>> guy playing drums, right?
>
> OK ... in the strictest sense you would be correct. I think you know what I
> meant.
Sure. I wasn't trying to imply anything but the technical statement. :-)
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