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On 9/19/2011 1:24, Invisible wrote:
> Would it make you happier if I asked whether the poisonous compounds are
> primary or secondary metabolites? Because that's clearly what I'm asking. :-P
Yes. A question like that can certainly be answered, assuming there's a
reasonable distinction between primary and secondary metabolites. That's a
rational question.
Asking "does this food make me sick?" is a rational question. Asking "does
my stomache know it's making me sick?" is not a rational question. :-)
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
How come I never get only one kudo?
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On 9/19/2011 1:13, Invisible wrote:
> On 16/09/2011 05:52 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:03:16 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't that just the cost to buy another already-existing house of a
>>> similar type?
>>
>> Not necessarily. Replacement cost sometimes does include construction
>> (ie, actual replacement).
>
> I wonder if they ever include relocation costs...
Generally you have to actually rebuild the house in order to get the
replacement costs paid. This prevents people from torching the place to get
the money.
Often there will be payment of temporary housing costs while the original
house is rebuilt.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
How come I never get only one kudo?
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>>>> Isn't that just the cost to buy another already-existing house of a
>>>> similar type?
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. Replacement cost sometimes does include construction
>>> (ie, actual replacement).
>>
>> I wonder if they ever include relocation costs...
>
> Generally you have to actually rebuild the house in order to get the
> replacement costs paid. This prevents people from torching the place to
> get the money.
>
> Often there will be payment of temporary housing costs while the
> original house is rebuilt.
Is this one of those things that varies by country? Also, I wonder if my
house is actually insured at all...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:54:24 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> On 9/19/2011 2:40, Invisible wrote:
>> question who's meaning is obvious,
>
> And we're telling you that the meaning isn't obvious, because the very
> phrasing of the sentence makes it absurd.
>
>> (Which I guess just means that nobody actually knows the answer...
>> which is cool, I guess.)
>
> No, it means the question as you asked it is meaningless, even if
> everyone tries to interpret it in the way you think you meant it.
>
>> People do this ALL THE TIME.
>
> We're not arguing that your phrasing of the question is too
> anthropomorphic. We're arguing that the phrasing of your question is
> *meaningless*. There is no interpretation of what you asked that can be
> answered.
>
> It's like asking "does a submarine swim?" The question is meaningless
> *because* of the anthropomorphic choice of words. There is no right
> answer, because any interpretation of the question leads to the answer
> "the question makes no sense."
Well said, Darren - much better than I could have said it.
Jim
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:13:47 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> On 16/09/2011 05:52 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:03:16 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't that just the cost to buy another already-existing house of a
>>> similar type?
>>
>> Not necessarily. Replacement cost sometimes does include construction
>> (ie, actual replacement).
>
> I wonder if they ever include relocation costs...
Depends on the policy.
Jim
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:22:12 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>>> Isn't that just the cost to buy another already-existing house of a
>>>>> similar type?
>>>>
>>>> Not necessarily. Replacement cost sometimes does include construction
>>>> (ie, actual replacement).
>>>
>>> I wonder if they ever include relocation costs...
>>
>> Generally you have to actually rebuild the house in order to get the
>> replacement costs paid. This prevents people from torching the place to
>> get the money.
>>
>> Often there will be payment of temporary housing costs while the
>> original house is rebuilt.
>
> Is this one of those things that varies by country?
It tends to vary by policy, depending on what the homeowner is willing to
pay for (or is required to pay for).
> Also, I wonder if my
> house is actually insured at all...
Is there still a mortgage due on it? If it is, the bank most likely
requires that there be some type of homeowner's policy on it in order to
protect their investment.
Jim
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On 9/19/2011 2:40 AM, Invisible wrote:
>>> Nobody worries for one second about saying things like "Word
>>> misunderstood what I told it to do". Because very few people are stupid
>>> enough to believe that a computer program like Word actually
>>> "understands" anything. Similarly, our language is full of such
>>> short-cuts, who's meaning is obvious. The only reason we're having this
>>> conversation is that a few nutcases want to pretend that their invisible
>>> friend made the universe. Well, that's their problem.
>>
>> There is no need to be rude and offensive.
>
> I wasn't aware that I was. I'm just exasperated that I asked a simple
> question who's meaning is obvious, and yet people are splitting hairs
> over semantic quibbles. (Which I guess just means that nobody actually
> knows the answer... which is cool, I guess.)
>
The problem is, its not a semantic quibble. Its the difference between
talking about things scientifically, and talking about them in a way
that a) isn't accurate, and b) is pretty much the way those that are
absolute enemies of science use the term. Its like calling it a semantic
quibble to ask, "Was that backstroke you got swimming", when you "meant"
actual swimming, but the "context" of how you used the word implies you
"might have" meant it in terms of, "swimmingly", and "backstroke" could
be construed to mean something entirely different. It wouldn't help
matters if their was a well known collection of people dressing in the
clothing of the time the phrase was common, giving massages, who thought
"swimming" was evil, and morally corrupting society.
And believe me, there are at least two other analogies that are less
nice that I thought of, for how semantic quibbles "do" matter.
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On 9/19/2011 11:22, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Is this one of those things that varies by country?
I would certainly think the details would.
> Also, I wonder if my house is actually insured at all...
Are you paying for where you live? Do you write a check to an insurance
company each year?
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
How come I never get only one kudo?
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On 9/15/2011 12:14 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> And yet, Black Widow venom /just happens/ to be lethal to humans. Not
> because there's any advantage to that, but just be coincidence.
It should be noted (although, I strongly recommend against being bitten
by a black widow) that it is not lethal in the dosage a black widow can
typically provide to a healthy adult human. It is potentially lethal to
children and the elderly.
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~Mike
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And lo On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:24:40 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> did
spake thusly:
> In a similar way, if I wanted somebody to go to an empty field and just
> *build* me a house, what would that cost? Obviously this one varies
> wildly depending on exactly what I want them to build, what
> infrastructure is already in place, etc. But let's take the astronomer's
> perspective: how many digits does the price tag have in it? (Assuming I
> want them to build a normal-sized house that isn't made of sure
> zirconium or anything weird like that.)
Tesco are selling flat pack self assembly houses for £10k
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3012.aspx
Going by the Land Directory 50m2 in your area would be about £35k, then
add in sewerage, electricty etc.
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Phil Cook
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