On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:25:40 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> On 19/09/2011 06:49 PM, Darren New wrote:
> 
>> Uh, no. VNC was *specifically* designed to be trivial to implement at
>> both ends.
> 
> And here I was thinking it was designed to, you know, allow you to
> remote control things. Because there aren't any other cross-platform
> solutions for doing that.

Like RDP, for example?  Yes, I have an RDP client that runs on Linux.

>> Except you aren't the person who designed VNC. You're the person who
>> should be using RDP or maybe X-Windows, or NeWS, or any of the other
>> dozens of remote graphics solutions.
> 
> It's news to me that "dozens of remote graphics solutions" exist. It's
> certainly news to me that any of them work on more than one platform.

Teamviewer, VNC, NoMachine's NX client/server, XDMCP...I could go on.

>> Ask the guys who wrote VNC, which runs in a web browser too, you know.
> 
> In what universe is that useful?

In a universe where you don't have or want to install a full-blown client 
locally.

Say you need to remotely access a system from your public library's 
computer.  I'm sure they won't let you install arbitrary software on 
their system.  But they probably have Java installed for the browser.

Hell, the remote exams I used to run at Novell could be run in a browser 
- far easier to support in some ways than having to walk a non-technical 
person through installing a client and making sure the software 
functioned properly.

Jim

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On 9/19/2011 11:25, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> And here I was thinking it was designed to, you know, allow you to remote
> control things.

Which it does.

> Because there aren't any other cross-platform solutions for
> doing that.

Nonsense.

> It's news to me that "dozens of remote graphics solutions" exist. It's
> certainly news to me that any of them work on more than one platform.

I'm not surprised. :-)

>> Ask the guys who wrote VNC, which runs in a web browser too, you know.
> In what universe is that useful?

In the universe where you may need to log into your machine remotely from a 
machine where you aren't allowed to install software?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   How come I never get only one kudo?

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Le 20/09/2011 03:08, Darren New a écrit :
>>> Ask the guys who wrote VNC, which runs in a web browser too, you know.
>> In what universe is that useful?
> 
> In the universe where you may need to log into your machine remotely
> from a machine where you aren't allowed to install software?

More specifically, in the universe where you are on a remote machine
where you aren't allowed to install software and which also lack basic
communication facilities like telnet, ftp and ssh client by default.
(Guess what, there is probably only one successfull OS provider which
still match both criteria).


That's a more tiny universe.

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On 9/19/2011 23:52, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> which also lack basic
> communication facilities like telnet, ftp and ssh client by default.

It has nothing to do with that. The presence of an FTP client is not going 
to get you a graphical interface into your machine.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   How come I never get only one kudo?

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On 20/09/2011 07:52 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:

> More specifically, in the universe where you are on a remote machine
> where you aren't allowed to install software and which also lack basic
> communication facilities like telnet, ftp and ssh client by default.
> (Guess what, there is probably only one successfull OS provider which
> still match both criteria).

Well, Windows ships with Telnet and FTP by default. The only one missing 
is SSH - and *clients* for SSH aren't hard to find.

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