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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> No. When I want to generate large chunks of text programatically, I
> write a program. (As you can probably tell, this isn't something I need
> to do very often.)
Why, when you could have your text editor do it?
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Le 08/08/2011 15:09, Warp a écrit :
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> No. When I want to generate large chunks of text programatically, I
>> write a program. (As you can probably tell, this isn't something I need
>> to do very often.)
>
> Why, when you could have your text editor do it?
>
Let's face it:
* vi is a text editor.
* emacs is an elisp based monster which happen to also be a text editor
by default (but it can be your mail reader, and far more, including your
navigation shell)
* other programs daring to be titled "text editor" are just lacking a
lot of functionalities and are at best replacement for Notepad.
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Le_Forgeron <lef### [at] freefr> wrote:
> Let's face it:
> * vi is a text editor.
> * emacs is an elisp based monster which happen to also be a text editor
> by default (but it can be your mail reader, and far more, including your
> navigation shell)
> * other programs daring to be titled "text editor" are just lacking a
> lot of functionalities and are at best replacement for Notepad.
Real programmers use edlin anyways.
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>> OK, fair enough. However, I don't work with any file formats where such
>> trailing spaces would be significant.
>
>> I also don't work with any file formats which should ever contain a tab
>> character, so I've configured my editor to strip those too.
>
> And then you lament about the lack of hex editors...
I wouldn't use a hex editor to edit text any more than I'd use a text
editor to edit binary.
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I wouldn't use a hex editor to edit text any more than I'd use a text
> editor to edit binary.
Why not?
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On 08/08/2011 02:09 PM, Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> No. When I want to generate large chunks of text programatically, I
>> write a program. (As you can probably tell, this isn't something I need
>> to do very often.)
>
> Why, when you could have your text editor do it?
The main type of text that I edit is program source code.
If you /need/ to generate large chunks of code automatically, you're
writing your program wrong.
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On 08/08/2011 02:46 PM, Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I wouldn't use a hex editor to edit text any more than I'd use a text
>> editor to edit binary.
>
> Why not?
Because typing "banana" is way, way easier than typing "62 61 6E 62 6E
62". Obviously.
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> On 08/08/2011 02:46 PM, Warp wrote:
> > Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> I wouldn't use a hex editor to edit text any more than I'd use a text
> >> editor to edit binary.
> >
> > Why not?
> Because typing "banana" is way, way easier than typing "62 61 6E 62 6E
> 62". Obviously.
Yes, because people use hex editors to edit plain ascii text.
You still didn't answer my question: Why don't you want the same program
supporting both text editing and hex editing?
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> On 08/08/2011 02:09 PM, Warp wrote:
> > Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> No. When I want to generate large chunks of text programatically, I
> >> write a program. (As you can probably tell, this isn't something I need
> >> to do very often.)
> >
> > Why, when you could have your text editor do it?
> The main type of text that I edit is program source code.
> If you /need/ to generate large chunks of code automatically, you're
> writing your program wrong.
You could use the same argument for any of the several features in your
text editor that you, personally, never use.
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On 08/08/2011 03:00 PM, Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> On 08/08/2011 02:46 PM, Warp wrote:
>>> Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>>> I wouldn't use a hex editor to edit text any more than I'd use a text
>>>> editor to edit binary.
>>>
>>> Why not?
>
>> Because typing "banana" is way, way easier than typing "62 61 6E 62 6E
>> 62". Obviously.
>
> Yes, because people use hex editors to edit plain ascii text.
>
> You still didn't answer my question: Why don't you want the same program
> supporting both text editing and hex editing?
I said that I wouldn't use a hex editor to edit text.
Now, if there was a single program that had decent support for text
/and/ binary editing, then sure, I'd use that.
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