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On 07/07/2011 05:00 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 7/7/2011 10:43, Warp wrote:
>> Jim Holsenback<nom### [at] nomail com> wrote:
>>> Now here's some cira 1965 rap for ya ;-)
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ujAXxNxU0
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>> I like this one more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nej4xJe4Tdg
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> I don't think either of those are rap. They have music.
>
rap and music aren't mutually exclusive terms (although some would
debate that)
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I don't think either of those are rap. They have music.
Lots of rap has music. Ever heard eg. Eminem? (Try "Stan" and "Lose
Yourself" for starters.)
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- Warp
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On 7/7/2011 14:25, Warp wrote:
> Lots of rap has music. Ever heard eg. Eminem? (Try "Stan"
There's music in the background. He's not singing.
Indeed, I'm pretty sure that the simplistic difference between "rap" and
"hip hop" is whether the artist sings the words.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Coding without comments is like
driving without turn signals."
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> On 7/7/2011 14:25, Warp wrote:
> > Lots of rap has music. Ever heard eg. Eminem? (Try "Stan"
> There's music in the background. He's not singing.
So your definition of "music" is that it must include singing?
That's an odd definition.
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- Warp
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On 7/8/2011 0:11, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> On 7/7/2011 14:25, Warp wrote:
>>> Lots of rap has music. Ever heard eg. Eminem? (Try "Stan"
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>> There's music in the background. He's not singing.
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> So your definition of "music" is that it must include singing?
No. My definition of rap is that the vocals are spoken instead of sung.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Coding without comments is like
driving without turn signals."
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> On 7/8/2011 0:11, Warp wrote:
> > Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> On 7/7/2011 14:25, Warp wrote:
> >>> Lots of rap has music. Ever heard eg. Eminem? (Try "Stan"
> >
> >> There's music in the background. He's not singing.
> >
> > So your definition of "music" is that it must include singing?
> No. My definition of rap is that the vocals are spoken instead of sung.
The original claim was that they are not rap because they have music.
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