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From: Darren New
Subject: Fully-funded PhD scholarship in the UK
Date: 1 Jul 2011 23:06:27
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Hey, Andrew!

http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~gmh/phd-advert.html


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Fully-funded PhD scholarship in the UK
Date: 2 Jul 2011 03:50:21
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On 02/07/2011 04:06 AM, Darren New wrote:
> Hey, Andrew!

Graham Hutton himself, eh?

Unfortunately, I do not have a first-class degree.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Fully-funded PhD scholarship in the UK
Date: 2 Jul 2011 15:18:23
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On 7/2/2011 0:50, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> On 02/07/2011 04:06 AM, Darren New wrote:
>> Hey, Andrew!
>
> Graham Hutton himself, eh?
>
> Unfortunately, I do not have a first-class degree.

Apply anyay.

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Fully-funded PhD scholarship in the UK
Date: 2 Jul 2011 17:50:18
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On 2-7-2011 21:18, Darren New wrote:
> On 7/2/2011 0:50, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> On 02/07/2011 04:06 AM, Darren New wrote:
>>> Hey, Andrew!
>>
>> Graham Hutton himself, eh?
>>
>> Unfortunately, I do not have a first-class degree.
>
> Apply anyway.
>
seconded

you can't go on finding excuses to not improve your life.
(or perhaps you can, I mean you shouldn't)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Fully-funded PhD scholarship in the UK
Date: 3 Jul 2011 05:44:23
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>>> Unfortunately, I do not have a first-class degree.
>>
>> Apply anyway.
>>
> seconded

I had assumed that when any sort of advertisement says "you must have X 
to apply", that means that if you don't have X your application will be 
summarily ignored.

Also, I'm fuzzy on this part, but are you required to be a current 
student? Or is it merely that most people who do a PhD happen to be 
current students?

> you can't go on finding excuses to not improve your life.
> (or perhaps you can, I mean you shouldn't)

Well, I'm certainly not going to argue with that. :-}

My point was merely that applying for something you have no hope at all 
of getting is just a waste of time and effort.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Fully-funded PhD scholarship in the UK
Date: 3 Jul 2011 12:31:45
Message: <4e109971$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/3/2011 2:44, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I had assumed that when any sort of advertisement says "you must have X to
> apply", that means that if you don't have X your application will be
> summarily ignored.

Nope.  It means the person writing the ad put that in the ad.

If it's summarily ignored, so what?

> Also, I'm fuzzy on this part, but are you required to be a current student?

It seems the best way to find out would be to apply.

> My point was merely that applying for something you have no hope at all of
> getting is just a waste of time and effort.

No, it gets you in the habit. :-)

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Fully-funded PhD scholarship in the UK
Date: 3 Jul 2011 14:45:44
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On 3-7-2011 11:44, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> Unfortunately, I do not have a first-class degree.
>>>
>>> Apply anyway.
>>>
>> seconded
>
> I had assumed that when any sort of advertisement says "you must have X
> to apply", that means that if you don't have X your application will be
> summarily ignored.

nope, see darren

> Also, I'm fuzzy on this part, but are you required to be a current
> student? Or is it merely that most people who do a PhD happen to be
> current students?

The latter. In sciences it is common. Though I know a few (well) over 
35. In languages A PhD is often for a lifetime achievement. Over 60 is 
not unheard of. Actually one person in my department is going to get a 
(second) PhD in 3 years time. I am fairly sure he will have past the 60 
mark by then too.

>> you can't go on finding excuses to not improve your life.
>> (or perhaps you can, I mean you shouldn't)
>
> Well, I'm certainly not going to argue with that. :-}
>
> My point was merely that applying for something you have no hope at all
> of getting is just a waste of time and effort.
>
No. it isn't, see Darren. It is also good training, helps to get your 
thoughts organized, and you might end up with another job that they also 
have or will create for you. Or you might have totally misjudged it and 
get the one you apply for. Given that you are not experienced in 
applying for these sort of jobs and your skills in second guessing other 
people in general are not as well developed as in some, that is much 
more likely than you think. ;)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Fully-funded PhD scholarship in the UK
Date: 3 Jul 2011 17:00:27
Message: <4e10d86b$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/3/2011 11:45, andrel wrote:
> and you might end up with another job that they also
> have or will create for you.

Or, very frequent in my experience, they'll pass you on to someone who *is* 
looking for what you do.

"Darren, do you know the Gooblefleck library?"

"No, but I know Fred worked on that the last place I was. I'll ask if he's 
interested."

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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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    driving without turn signals."


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