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From: Invisible
Subject: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 6 Apr 2011 06:57:54
Message: <4d9c4732$1@news.povray.org>
The Internet is a great source of information. Sometimes.

But you know what I hate? You do a Google search for something like 
"program X crashes when I try to do Y", and you get a thousand hits, all 
of which are different web interfaces to the exact same newsgroup post 
from a guy using a different version of the software, who got no useful 
replies to his question.

Worse, all these web interfaces are 10% content and 90% adverts.

Worse still, a few of these sites show you the question and say "sign up 
for only $X/month to find out what the solution to this program is".

And then there are the ones that say "you searched for 'program X 
crashes when I try to do Y'. CLICK HERE to fix your PC!"

Occasionally you'll get an MS knowledge base article which actually 
tells you how to fix the damned problem. But don't hold your breath. 
(Especially if what you're using isn't the newest, shiniest version of 
their product.)


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 6 Apr 2011 13:04:19
Message: <4d9c9d13$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2011/04/06 06:57, Invisible a écrit :
> The Internet is a great source of information. Sometimes.
>
> But you know what I hate? You do a Google search for something like
> "program X crashes when I try to do Y", and you get a thousand hits, all
> of which are different web interfaces to the exact same newsgroup post
> from a guy using a different version of the software, who got no useful
> replies to his question.
>
> Worse, all these web interfaces are 10% content and 90% adverts.
>
> Worse still, a few of these sites show you the question and say "sign up
> for only $X/month to find out what the solution to this program is".
>
> And then there are the ones that say "you searched for 'program X
> crashes when I try to do Y'. CLICK HERE to fix your PC!"
>
> Occasionally you'll get an MS knowledge base article which actually
> tells you how to fix the damned problem. But don't hold your breath.
> (Especially if what you're using isn't the newest, shiniest version of
> their product.)

Or the fact that the nature of the problem makes the microsoft KB 
article unuseable.

By the way, anybody know how to repair the windows fonts folder that 
stopped to works as intended? I can't install new fonts and the folder 
acts just like a regular folder. On Win XP.


Alain


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 6 Apr 2011 13:25:49
Message: <4d9ca21d@news.povray.org>
Invisible escreveu:
> The Internet is a great source of information. Sometimes.
> 
> But you know what I hate? You do a Google search for something like 
> "program X crashes when I try to do Y", and you get a thousand hits, all 
> of which are different web interfaces to the exact same newsgroup post 
> from a guy using a different version of the software, who got no useful 
> replies to his question.
> 
> Worse, all these web interfaces are 10% content and 90% adverts.

true.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 6 Apr 2011 13:42:12
Message: <4d9ca5f4@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Worse, all these web interfaces are 10% content and 90% adverts.

  Not really related, but it reminded me of file sharing services.

  There are free file sharing services out there (in other words, if you
want to share a file with people but don't have any online server account
of your own where you could put it, these services provide a way to simply
put the file in their server for others to download). However, the vast
majority (if not all) of them are completely crippled with adverts, nag
screens and artificial delays, unless you pay for the service, and these
services often require cookies, javascripts, referrers and whatnot to be
enabled in the browser.

  Why I find this extremely odd? Because often people just share small files
with these services (such as zipped log files or whatever) and there are
*video* sharing sites out there which are distributing literally terabytes
of data completely for free, with no nagging screens, adverts, artificial
delays, which you can freely embed wherever you want, and so on. And the
only thing they require from the browser is support for flash.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 6 Apr 2011 16:48:20
Message: <4d9cd194$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/04/2011 06:42 PM, Warp wrote:

> there are
> *video* sharing sites out there which are distributing literally terabytes
> of data completely for free, with no nagging screens, adverts, artificial
> delays, which you can freely embed wherever you want, and so on. And the
> only thing they require from the browser is support for flash.

That's... a very valid point, actually. Hmm, yes. Although certainly 
YouTube is becoming fairly obnoxious with its advertising. I'm told 
other similar services exist though.

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 6 Apr 2011 17:08:30
Message: <4D9CD64F.5060503@gmail.com>
On 6-4-2011 19:42, Warp wrote:
> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>> Worse, all these web interfaces are 10% content and 90% adverts.
>
>    Not really related, but it reminded me of file sharing services.
>
>    There are free file sharing services out there (in other words, if you
> want to share a file with people but don't have any online server account
> of your own where you could put it, these services provide a way to simply
> put the file in their server for others to download). However, the vast
> majority (if not all) of them are completely crippled with adverts, nag
> screens and artificial delays, unless you pay for the service, and these
> services often require cookies, javascripts, referrers and whatnot to be
> enabled in the browser.
>
>    Why I find this extremely odd? Because often people just share small files
> with these services (such as zipped log files or whatever) and there are
> *video* sharing sites out there which are distributing literally terabytes
> of data completely for free, with no nagging screens, adverts, artificial
> delays, which you can freely embed wherever you want, and so on. And the
> only thing they require from the browser is support for flash.
>

Steganography is the solution. ;)


-- 
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citizen per day.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 6 Apr 2011 22:15:40
Message: <4d9d1e4c$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 11:57:54 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> But you know what I hate? You do a Google search for something like
> "program X crashes when I try to do Y", and you get a thousand hits, all
> of which are different web interfaces to the exact same newsgroup post
> from a guy using a different version of the software, who got no useful
> replies to his question.

Yep, and often times refining the search terms from a 'natural language' 
formation of the question (which doesn't work so well with Google) to a 
keyword search doesn't remove that one person's request in 15,000 
different places (often times one question on one mailing list that's 
archived in multiple places around the 'net, I've observed).

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 6 Apr 2011 22:16:20
Message: <4d9d1e74$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:42:12 -0400, Warp wrote:

>   Why I find this extremely odd? Because often people just share small
>   files
> with these services (such as zipped log files or whatever) and there are
> *video* sharing sites out there which are distributing literally
> terabytes of data completely for free, with no nagging screens, adverts,
> artificial delays, which you can freely embed wherever you want, and so
> on. And the only thing they require from the browser is support for
> flash.

Adblock pro is a wonderful thing.

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 9 Apr 2011 04:34:23
Message: <4da01a0f@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:42:12 -0400, Warp wrote:

> >   Why I find this extremely odd? Because often people just share small
> >   files
> > with these services (such as zipped log files or whatever) and there are
> > *video* sharing sites out there which are distributing literally
> > terabytes of data completely for free, with no nagging screens, adverts,
> > artificial delays, which you can freely embed wherever you want, and so
> > on. And the only thing they require from the browser is support for
> > flash.

> Adblock pro is a wonderful thing.

  It doesn't help with the nag screens, delays and browser feature
requirements.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 10 Apr 2011 14:42:36
Message: <4da1fa1c$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 04:34:23 -0400, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:42:12 -0400, Warp wrote:
> 
>> >   Why I find this extremely odd? Because often people just share
>> >   small files
>> > with these services (such as zipped log files or whatever) and there
>> > are *video* sharing sites out there which are distributing literally
>> > terabytes of data completely for free, with no nagging screens,
>> > adverts, artificial delays, which you can freely embed wherever you
>> > want, and so on. And the only thing they require from the browser is
>> > support for flash.
> 
>> Adblock pro is a wonderful thing.
> 
>   It doesn't help with the nag screens, delays and browser feature
> requirements.

I've never really noticed anything like this on mine, but it is called 
"Adblock" and not "nagdelaybrowserfeaturerequirementblock". ;)

Jim


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 10 Apr 2011 20:01:52
Message: <4da244f0@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:
> 
> By the way, anybody know how to repair the windows fonts folder that 
> stopped to works as intended? I can't install new fonts and the folder 
> acts just like a regular folder. On Win XP.
> 

There's a "Repair Fonts Folder" option in the TweakUI Powertoy.  I don't 
know where MS is hiding it these days--it doesn't seem to be where 
Google thinks it is:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/downloads/windows-xp

...but it does appear to be here:

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/tweakui.htm

I've never used that particular feature, but it might be what you're 
looking for.

--Sherry Shaw


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 11 Apr 2011 11:38:17
Message: <4da32069$1@news.povray.org>
On 4/6/2011 10:04, Alain wrote:
> By the way, anybody know how to repair the windows fonts folder that stopped
> to works as intended? I can't install new fonts and the folder acts just
> like a regular folder. On Win XP.

I'm guessing you deleted the desktop.ini hidden system file from the 
directory, which is what tells Explorer that it's an unusual folder. See if 
putting these two lines into a file in your font folder called desktop.ini 
and making it hidden and system does the trick. It has the secret GUID code 
that tells Explorer what to invoke to modify what it displays.

[.ShellClassInfo]
UICLSID={BD84B380-8CA2-1069-AB1D-08000948F534}

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   "Coding without comments is like
    driving without turn signals."


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 11 Apr 2011 12:49:37
Message: <4da33121@news.povray.org>
Le 2011/04/11 11:38, Darren New a écrit :
> On 4/6/2011 10:04, Alain wrote:
>> By the way, anybody know how to repair the windows fonts folder that
>> stopped
>> to works as intended? I can't install new fonts and the folder acts just
>> like a regular folder. On Win XP.
>
> I'm guessing you deleted the desktop.ini hidden system file from the
> directory, which is what tells Explorer that it's an unusual folder. See
> if putting these two lines into a file in your font folder called
> desktop.ini and making it hidden and system does the trick. It has the
> secret GUID code that tells Explorer what to invoke to modify what it
> displays.
>
> [.ShellClassInfo]
> UICLSID={BD84B380-8CA2-1069-AB1D-08000948F534}
>

That was it, sort of!

The file WAS there, and it's content /looked/ identical, but it seems 
that there was something wrong with the content, like an invisible 
control character in the string...

Sherry, your proposition was the very first thing that I tried.


Alain


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 11 Apr 2011 14:08:31
Message: <4da3439f@news.povray.org>
On 4/11/2011 9:49, Alain wrote:
> The file WAS there, and it's content /looked/ identical, but it seems that
> there was something wrong with the content, like an invisible control
> character in the string...

I can't imagine what happened that wound up changing parts of the file. 
Nobody really looks at that except explorer.  The only thing I can think of 
is you dragged the whole directory (or at least something including 
desktop.ini) from a different OS and wound up changing the class id to 
something visually similar but different. (I.e., where the class id might be 
BD48B380... in Vista or some such.)

Odd. Glad to have helped, tho.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Coding without comments is like
    driving without turn signals."


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 11 Apr 2011 16:03:02
Message: <4da35e76@news.povray.org>
Le 2011/04/11 14:08, Darren New a écrit :
> On 4/11/2011 9:49, Alain wrote:
>> The file WAS there, and it's content /looked/ identical, but it seems
>> that
>> there was something wrong with the content, like an invisible control
>> character in the string...
>
> I can't imagine what happened that wound up changing parts of the file.
> Nobody really looks at that except explorer. The only thing I can think
> of is you dragged the whole directory (or at least something including
> desktop.ini) from a different OS and wound up changing the class id to
> something visually similar but different. (I.e., where the class id
> might be BD48B380... in Vista or some such.)
>
> Odd. Glad to have helped, tho.
>

Nothing like that.
The text was exactly the same, just did a compare with a copy I made 
while trying to see what was wrong. The file was hide but not system.

It was working. I had a disk crash on my OS drive. I reinstalled on a 
freshly formated drive.
Immediately after the reinstall, the normal functionality was broken.
This mean that the installation process did something wrong, like miss 
set the system flag or something.

As they say: Two identical computers, with the same periferals and OS 
ARE'NT...


Alain


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Internet research problem #45784
Date: 11 Apr 2011 17:18:02
Message: <4da3700a$1@news.povray.org>
On 4/11/2011 13:03, Alain wrote:
> Immediately after the reinstall, the normal functionality was broken.

Thanks for the info. That's definitely odd. :-)

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Coding without comments is like
    driving without turn signals."


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