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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Ouch time
Date: 24 Aug 2010 14:58:18
Message: <4c74164a$1@news.povray.org>
Not that I suppose anybody cares, but today a man used a pair of pliars 
to rip one of my teeth out of my jaw bone.

Suffice it to say, it really hurts now. >_<

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 24 Aug 2010 15:08:07
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Not that I suppose anybody cares, but today a man used a pair of pliars 
> to rip one of my teeth out of my jaw bone.

> Suffice it to say, it really hurts now. >_<

  I hope it was a wisdom tooth.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 24 Aug 2010 15:31:38
Message: <4c741e1a$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:58:17 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Not that I suppose anybody cares, but today a man used a pair of pliars
> to rip one of my teeth out of my jaw bone.
> 
> Suffice it to say, it really hurts now. >_<

Hope you're feeling better soon - when I had my wisdom teeth out years 
ago, I told them to knock me out for it (I had to have 3 pulled, only had 
3).

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 24 Aug 2010 17:50:58
Message: <4c743ec2$1@news.povray.org>
On 24/08/2010 7:58 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Not that I suppose anybody cares, but today a man used a pair of pliars
> to rip one of my teeth out of my jaw bone.
>

Only one? Jammy B

> Suffice it to say, it really hurts now. >_<
>

I sympathise, 10 days ago I lost a fight with a dentist. Then it went 
septic. :-(

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	Stephen


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 03:25:52
Message: <4c74c580$1@news.povray.org>
> Not that I suppose anybody cares, but today a man used a pair of pliars to 
> rip one of my teeth out of my jaw bone.

I had a woman do mine :-)  And from what I remember she actually used some 
implement to *push* the tooth down into its socket really hard until it 
cracked, then she just picked it out.  It was a very bizarre feeling, when 
your brain is telling you that this should be *really* hurting, but you 
can't feel anything except for the reaction force on the back of your head.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 05:42:18
Message: <4c74e57a$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> I had a woman do mine :-)  And from what I remember she actually used 
> some implement to *push* the tooth down into its socket really hard 
> until it cracked, then she just picked it out.  It was a very bizarre 
> feeling, when your brain is telling you that this should be *really* 
> hurting, but you can't feel anything except for the reaction force on 
> the back of your head.

The whole process only took about 5 minutes. Which is weird.

Usually they get you in there, stab you a bit (which really hurts), and 
then make you go sit outside for another 20 minutes. While you sit 
there, half of your entire head slowly goes numb, until you look like a 
person suffering some kind of neural malfunction. (Which, technically, 
you are I suppose...) Then they lay you down in the chair for a couple 
of hours with your mouth wide open while they poke around inside. All 
you can do is try not to drown in your own saliva.

This trip was much shorter. They kepted me waiting until about 30 
minutes after my appointment time, just to make sure I was utterly 
nausious with adrenaline when I walked in. They lay me down and stabbed 
me. I don't recall feeling any numbness. And then the dentist is like 
"OK, let me have a little feel here..."

I remember the nurse holding my head still, and hearing a loud crunching 
sound, and feeling something grinding around. And warm blood dripping 
onto my face. They did some sewing, and then gave me some cotton to chew 
on. And, eventually, they let me leave. (Feel quite dizzy after having 
my feet on the ceiling for so long...)

When I got home, I looked like something out of a bad horror movie. My 
teeth are stained red, brown and black with bloody goo, one side of my 
mouth is actually glued shut with dry blood, and now my face is slowly 
going numb.

About an hour later, the drugs wore off. Now, considering that I have 
broken bones, severed arteries and ripped tissues, it didn't hurt nearly 
*as much* as you'd imagine. But it still hurt quite a lot! **** me! >_<

Eventually a took some painkillers. It's almost impossible to swallow. 
To do so, you have to press your toung against the roof of your mouth, 
and it's quite hard to avoid the gaping hole at the side. Man, dried 
saliva and dried blood tastes like crap! >_<

By the evening, it didn't actually hurt much at all. This morning I 
discovered that I've drooled blood all over my pillow. (Niiice.) But 
today it hardly hurts at all - which is surprising considering the 
extreme magnitude of the injury...

PS. I'm still drooling brown goo.

-- 
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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 09:24:43
Message: <4c75199b$1@news.povray.org>
Am 25.08.2010 11:42, schrieb Orchid XP v8:

> Usually they get you in there, stab you a bit (which really hurts), and
> then make you go sit outside for another 20 minutes. While you sit
> there, half of your entire head slowly goes numb, until you look like a
> person suffering some kind of neural malfunction. (Which, technically,
> you are I suppose...) Then they lay you down in the chair for a couple
> of hours with your mouth wide open while they poke around inside. All
> you can do is try not to drown in your own saliva.

When I had mine torn out, I was glad they let me have a little nap all 
the while. They had already figured out from X-rays that one of those 
bastards would be pretty difficult to get out, with one of its roots 
bending back towards the other.

But I've had my share of waterboarding at the dentist's on other 
occasions...

> By the evening, it didn't actually hurt much at all. This morning I
> discovered that I've drooled blood all over my pillow. (Niiice.) But
> today it hardly hurts at all - which is surprising considering the
> extreme magnitude of the injury...
>
> PS. I'm still drooling brown goo.

Remember, any noticeable taste of blood is /not/ part of the required 
test protocol :-)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 11:59:14
Message: <4c753dd2$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> some implement to *push* the tooth down into its socket really hard 

I don't remember exactly what took out my first wisdom tooth, but I remember 
it looked something like a corkscrew. Good thing I don't get nervous about 
such stuff.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 13:10:22
Message: <4c754e7e$1@news.povray.org>
>> PS. I'm still drooling brown goo.
> 
> Remember, any noticeable taste of blood is /not/ part of the required 
> test protocol :-)

The Material Emancipation Grill may, under rare circumstances, 
emancipate gums, soft fillings, crowns, dentures, and teeth.

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 14:04:51
Message: <4c755b43@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   I hope it was a wisdom tooth.

Actually no. One of the molers, right on the middle.

I only actually had one tooth taken out, but it seems to have left a 
huge, gaping hole with almost no tooth left on that side. o_O

-- 
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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 14:19:49
Message: <4c755ec5$1@news.povray.org>
Am 25.08.2010 19:10, schrieb Orchid XP v8:
>>> PS. I'm still drooling brown goo.
>>
>> Remember, any noticeable taste of blood is /not/ part of the required
>> test protocol :-)
>
> The Material Emancipation Grill may, under rare circumstances,
> emancipate gums, soft fillings, crowns, dentures, and teeth.

In semi-rare cases, actually. And it may also emancipate tooth enamel. 
Not sure about gums and dentures.

Hm, maybe I played too often...


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 14:28:49
Message: <4c7560e1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I remember the nurse holding my head still, and hearing a loud crunching
> sound, and feeling something grinding around. And warm blood dripping
> onto my face. They did some sewing, and then gave me some cotton to chew
> on. And, eventually, they let me leave. (Feel quite dizzy after having
> my feet on the ceiling for so long...)

Loud crunching sound? Is that actually audible? :/

I wouldn't know; my screams didn't let me hear any such sound...


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 15:53:24
Message: <4c7574b4@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Warp wrote:

> >   I hope it was a wisdom tooth.

> Actually no. One of the molers, right on the middle.

  Why?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 25 Aug 2010 16:38:55
Message: <4c757f5f$1@news.povray.org>
>> I remember the nurse holding my head still, and hearing a loud crunching
>> sound, and feeling something grinding around. And warm blood dripping
>> onto my face. They did some sewing, and then gave me some cotton to chew
>> on. And, eventually, they let me leave. (Feel quite dizzy after having
>> my feet on the ceiling for so long...)
> 
> Loud crunching sound? Is that actually audible? :/

Most sounds that happen inside your head sound much louder to you than 
they do to everybody else.

> I wouldn't know; my screams didn't let me hear any such sound...

Well, yeah, there is that.

I especially liked the comment the dentist made about how if he'd kept 
all the teeth, he could have made a little necklace of human teeth by 
now. "It would be like Predator." Thanks for that, guys. You're really 
not helping me...

-- 
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From: scott
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 03:04:49
Message: <4c761211$1@news.povray.org>
>> some implement to *push* the tooth down into its socket really hard
>
> I don't remember exactly what took out my first wisdom tooth, but I 
> remember it looked something like a corkscrew. Good thing I don't get 
> nervous about such stuff.

They gave me blacked out sunglasses to wear! After I saw the size of the 
injection they were about to give me through the small gap under the 
glasses, I kept my eyes tightly closed for the rest of it!


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 09:57:54
Message: <4c7672e2@news.povray.org>
On 8/25/2010 4:42 AM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> This trip was much shorter. They kepted me waiting until about 30
> minutes after my appointment time, just to make sure I was utterly
> nausious with adrenaline when I walked in. They lay me down and stabbed
> me. I don't recall feeling any numbness. And then the dentist is like
> "OK, let me have a little feel here..."

Heh. I remember vividly having impacted wisdom teeth removed. One was 
done at the dentists chair. I opted for nitrous. Fun stuff. The rest had 
to be removed by an "oral surgeon" Though I don't remember the actual 
extractions due to the general anesthetic I was under I do vividly 
remember the aftermath.

Lets just say a mouth full of stitches and an upset stomach don't mix 
real well. I couldn't keep down the painkillers if I wanted to.

The next morning, I decided the painkillers were a nice novelty to look 
at. I didn't need them. The stitches were highly annoying, though.

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~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 10:00:51
Message: <4c767393$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/25/2010 3:38 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>> Loud crunching sound? Is that actually audible? :/
>
> Most sounds that happen inside your head sound much louder to you than
> they do to everybody else.
>

Yeah... On the one tooth they removed (A wisdom tooth). I kept hearing a 
very loud snapping sound. Almost like the pliers they used couldn't grip 
the tooth and kept slipping.

> I especially liked the comment the dentist made about how if he'd kept
> all the teeth, he could have made a little necklace of human teeth by
> now. "It would be like Predator." Thanks for that, guys. You're really
> not helping me...
>

Haha... That's great :)

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~Mike


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 10:35:00
Message: <web.4c767b0d67b82fd86dd25f0b0@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/25/2010 3:38 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> > I especially liked the comment the dentist made about how if he'd kept
> > all the teeth, he could have made a little necklace of human teeth by
> > now. "It would be like Predator." Thanks for that, guys. You're really
> > not helping me...
> >
>
> Haha... That's great :)

Ain't got time to bleed.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 10:53:17
Message: <4c767fdd$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> They gave me blacked out sunglasses to wear! 

I have no idea why I laughed so hard at that.


Somewhere around here I have the video tape taken through the eyepiece of 
the lasik machine they used to do my eye surgery. I'm not squeamish about 
that stuff.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 13:36:17
Message: <4c76a611$1@news.povray.org>
Am 26.08.2010 16:53, schrieb Darren New:
> scott wrote:
>> They gave me blacked out sunglasses to wear!
>
> I have no idea why I laughed so hard at that.

Maybe the thought of peril-sensitive sunglasses crossed your mind... it 
paid a visit to mine at any rate.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 13:49:29
Message: <4c76a928@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> scott wrote:
> > some implement to *push* the tooth down into its socket really hard 

> I don't remember exactly what took out my first wisdom tooth, but I remember 
> it looked something like a corkscrew. Good thing I don't get nervous about 
> such stuff.

  I have had only one wisdom tooth removed because it was horizontally
impacted and thus could with high probability cause problems later in
life (all the other three wisdom teeth have developed nicely, so there
has been no need to do anything to them).

  The method they used was basically to break it into small pieces with
a drill (or some other similar tool, I'm not an expert) and then extract
all these pieces. It felt like a rather efficient way of doing it, without
causing too much discomfort or trouble.

  Curiously (and thankfully) recovery was almost completely painless.
I didn't even need to use any pain medication (besides what they gave
me right after the procedure). There was quite visible swelling, of course,
but almost no pain at all.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 13:50:40
Message: <4c76a970$1@news.povray.org>
>>>   I hope it was a wisdom tooth.
> 
>> Actually no. One of the molers, right on the middle.
> 
>   Why?

The filling kept getting infected. I lose count of how many times I had 
it refilled. In the end, they decided to just remove the tooth and be 
done with it.

-- 
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 13:58:40
Message: <4c76ab50@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >>>   I hope it was a wisdom tooth.
> > 
> >> Actually no. One of the molers, right on the middle.
> > 
> >   Why?

> The filling kept getting infected. I lose count of how many times I had 
> it refilled. In the end, they decided to just remove the tooth and be 
> done with it.

  How is this possible? One would think that modern dentistry would have
solved such problems.

  I assume getting an artificial tooth to replace it is such a specialized
form of "cosmetic" surgery that the health care system isn't going to pay
for such things there?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 15:41:17
Message: <4c76c35d$1@news.povray.org>
>> The filling kept getting infected. I lose count of how many times I had 
>> it refilled. In the end, they decided to just remove the tooth and be 
>> done with it.
> 
>   How is this possible? One would think that modern dentistry would have
> solved such problems.

I guess the filling doesn't make a perfect seal, or maybe there's a 
crack somewhere else in the tooth. IDK. All I know is that having an 
infected tooth hurts quite a bit.

>   I assume getting an artificial tooth to replace it is such a specialized
> form of "cosmetic" surgery that the health care system isn't going to pay
> for such things there?

Uh, yeah. They tell me it would cost around about £2,000 to do that.

Obviously, I don't have (and never will have) that amount of money.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 15:42:58
Message: <4c76c3c2$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   How is this possible? One would think that modern dentistry would have
> solved such problems.

They just did. ;-)

>   I assume getting an artificial tooth to replace it is such a specialized
> form of "cosmetic" surgery that the health care system isn't going to pay
> for such things there?

It's not cosmetic if you're fixing an infection. "Cosmetic" generally means 
"voluntary" in this sort of thing.  So if the dentist says "You need a 
denture there to keep the teeth from shifting inappropriately" it's not 
cosmetic, any more than a prosthetic limb is.

-- 
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        Need S'Mores!


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 16:00:25
Message: <4c76c7d8@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >   I assume getting an artificial tooth to replace it is such a specialized
> > form of "cosmetic" surgery that the health care system isn't going to pay
> > for such things there?

> It's not cosmetic if you're fixing an infection. "Cosmetic" generally means 
> "voluntary" in this sort of thing.  So if the dentist says "You need a 
> denture there to keep the teeth from shifting inappropriately" it's not 
> cosmetic, any more than a prosthetic limb is.

  Losing one tooth is certainly not a severe impairment, and one could
argue that fixing it with an artificial tooth is more of a cosmetic fix
than a necessary one (in most countries with a public health care system
the system usually doesn't pay for unnecessary cosmetic surgery, unless
it can be demonstrated that the life of the patient gets severely degraded
without the surgery). Of course I'm not a medical professional, much less
a dentist, so I have no idea how they classify this. I assume it's up to
the doctor to decide if the operation is necessary or not.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 16:07:29
Message: <4c76c981$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> I assume it's up to the doctor to decide if the operation is necessary or not.

That's what I was trying to express. Sometimes losing a tooth on one side 
will make the other teeth move to fill the gap over time, leading to poor 
matching between upper and lower teeth. In that case, it wouldn't be cosmetic.

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        Need S'Mores!


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 26 Aug 2010 23:49:56
Message: <4c7735e4$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:07:26 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Warp wrote:
>> I assume it's up to the doctor to decide if the operation is necessary
>> or not.
> 
> That's what I was trying to express. Sometimes losing a tooth on one
> side will make the other teeth move to fill the gap over time, leading
> to poor matching between upper and lower teeth. In that case, it
> wouldn't be cosmetic.

Yes, I've heard that can be a real problem - a coworker of mine has an 
issue with a lost tooth (he plays hockey, imagine that - missing teeth 
<g>), and it would cost him about C$3000 (he's in Canada) to have a post 
put in to support an artificial tooth.

Ouch indeed.

Jim


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 27 Aug 2010 02:30:06
Message: <4c775b6e$1@news.povray.org>
>  Losing one tooth is certainly not a severe impairment, and one could
> argue that fixing it with an artificial tooth is more of a cosmetic fix
> than a necessary one

I had four of my molers removed and I can still fit my tongue in all the 
gaps :-)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 27 Aug 2010 03:57:42
Message: <4c776ff6$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   Losing one tooth is certainly not a severe impairment, and one could
> argue that fixing it with an artificial tooth is more of a cosmetic fix
> than a necessary one.

Apparently Cute QA Girl was missing a tooth. Though in her case, it's 
probably due to some hockey incident... ;-)

AFAIK, it didn't bother her too much. And she was still cute, too.

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 27 Aug 2010 13:02:45
Message: <4c77efb5$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/26/2010 12:36 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 26.08.2010 16:53, schrieb Darren New:
>> scott wrote:
>>> They gave me blacked out sunglasses to wear!
>>
>> I have no idea why I laughed so hard at that.
>
> Maybe the thought of peril-sensitive sunglasses crossed your mind... it
> paid a visit to mine at any rate.

Thanks for that :) I was trying to remember what they were called.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Ouch time
Date: 31 Aug 2010 08:37:57
Message: <4c7cf7a5$1@news.povray.org>
Oh sweet! The disolving stitches just fell out. You have no idea how 
much the knot at the end has been rubbing against my cheek...


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