On 8/27/2010 5:10 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
> Yeah, that short toll bit wasn't near the airport, but the frontage roads
> I was talking about were in/out of the airport property.
>
> Jim

Can you get to the terminals via the frontage road?

This seems like a huge hole in their scheme to charge for parking ....
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~Mike

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On 8/27/2010 12:55 PM, Mike Raiford wrote:
> On 8/26/2010 9:57 AM, Tom Austin wrote:
>
>>
>> I guess I am likely to get a nice letter int he mail stating that I owe
>> $3.43 in tolls and $135 in fines for not paying the tolls int he first
>> place.
>>
>
> Yeah, what Darren said ... The rental company will probably absorb the
> toll fees. Either that or they'll send you a bill for the tolls... But
> there's no fine.
>

I wasn't worried at the time - just annoyed that there was nothing 
stating how it worked.


> What's fun is the 190 turnpike (George Bush Turnpike) used to have toll
> booths, but they move to all-electronic. So you have these huge slabs of
> concrete collecting dust...
>

I haven't been through Texas much - mostly the pan-handle on I-40.  Do 
drivers still have to drive through the toll booths or did they change 
something?

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:29:19 -0500, Mike Raiford wrote:

> On 8/27/2010 5:10 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, that short toll bit wasn't near the airport, but the frontage
>> roads I was talking about were in/out of the airport property.
>>
>> Jim
> 
> Can you get to the terminals via the frontage road?

Not 100% sure, since I only ever had a rental car, so was going from the 
rental car pick-up/drop off point.

> This seems like a huge hole in their scheme to charge for parking ....

Only for those who know about it.  IIRC, it wasn't very well marked, so 
it seems they're counting on people who are unfamiliar with the roads 
just taking the easy way (always easier too when it's someone else's 
money you're spending - I just hate doing paperwork for reimbursement for 
tolls).

Jim

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On 8/30/2010 12:27 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:29:19 -0500, Mike Raiford wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/2010 5:10 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, that short toll bit wasn't near the airport, but the frontage
>>> roads I was talking about were in/out of the airport property.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Can you get to the terminals via the frontage road?
>
> Not 100% sure, since I only ever had a rental car, so was going from the
> rental car pick-up/drop off point.
>

Oh, yeah ... the rental area. Of course :)

>> This seems like a huge hole in their scheme to charge for parking ....
>
> Only for those who know about it.  IIRC, it wasn't very well marked, so
> it seems they're counting on people who are unfamiliar with the roads
> just taking the easy way (always easier too when it's someone else's
> money you're spending - I just hate doing paperwork for reimbursement for
> tolls).
>

True. I remember taking some out of town visitors back to the airport 
(following their rental car, actually) I seem to remember they had a 
little map that showed where to return the car.

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~Mike

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On 8/30/2010 12:12 PM, Tom Austin wrote:

>
> I haven't been through Texas much - mostly the pan-handle on I-40. Do
> drivers still have to drive through the toll booths or did they change
> something?
>

It depends. On the GBT, the toll plazas are still there, but you drive 
through the "Tolltag" lanes. On many of the exits, the toll booths are 
still there, so in that case you do.

On new roads, there's just a gantry that you drive under with the 
sensors on it.

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~Mike

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On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:10:08 -0500, Mike Raiford wrote:

> On 8/30/2010 12:27 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:29:19 -0500, Mike Raiford wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/27/2010 5:10 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that short toll bit wasn't near the airport, but the frontage
>>>> roads I was talking about were in/out of the airport property.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Can you get to the terminals via the frontage road?
>>
>> Not 100% sure, since I only ever had a rental car, so was going from
>> the rental car pick-up/drop off point.
>>
>>
> Oh, yeah ... the rental area. Of course :)

Yeah, never had to drive my own car there. ;-)

>>> This seems like a huge hole in their scheme to charge for parking ....
>>
>> Only for those who know about it.  IIRC, it wasn't very well marked, so
>> it seems they're counting on people who are unfamiliar with the roads
>> just taking the easy way (always easier too when it's someone else's
>> money you're spending - I just hate doing paperwork for reimbursement
>> for tolls).
>>
>>
> True. I remember taking some out of town visitors back to the airport
> (following their rental car, actually) I seem to remember they had a
> little map that showed where to return the car.

I had a GPS.  "Hertz Everlost". ;-)

Jim

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On 9/3/2010 5:24 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:

> I had a GPS.  "Hertz Everlost". ;-)

*snerk*

We have a small GPS that suction-cups to the window. Sometimes the 
suction cup utterly fails while driving down the freeway at 70mph. 
Generally results in a string of swear words that would make a sailor 
blush.

Additionally, I suspect that it occasionally gives bad directions on 
purpose because I haven't updated the map in a couple years. You 
know.... JUST to push the user enough to shell out the money for a map 
update.

I wouldn't be surprised if the routing algorithm had some kind of random 
factor added to it that would become enabled when the map is out of date.

It could also be the fact that there's been a lot of construction in the 
area where the GPS was giving strange directions...

... NAH!

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~Mike

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On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:25:47 -0500, Mike Raiford wrote:

> On 9/3/2010 5:24 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> I had a GPS.  "Hertz Everlost". ;-)
> 
> *snerk*

Hehehehe, that idea about intentional incorrect instructions is awfully 
cynical, sounds like something I'd think.  I remember having one of the 
Everlost systems in Colorado, and it sent me down a dead-end and said 
"keep going".

Jim

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On 07/09/2010 1:25 PM, Mike Raiford wrote:
> a string of swear words that would make a sailor blush.

I've not heard that for years. :-D Thanks.

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	Stephen

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Hehehehe, that idea about intentional incorrect instructions is awfully 
> cynical, 

I'm honestly surprised that I've never heard of companies releasing viruses 
that would affect a competing company's products.  Except bot-net authors.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!

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