Stephen <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> wrote:
> On 20/07/2010 2:33 PM, Warp wrote:
> > Stephen<mca### [at] aoldotcom>  wrote:
> >>>     I envision the pick-up line: "Hey, can I palpate your pulse from your
> >>> femoral artery? For scientific purposes only."
> >
> >> You missed out "It won't hurt much".
> >
> >    Why would it hurt at all?
> >
>
> I was thinking of it as a pressure point, not comfortable.

The slap might hurt, though.

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>>>   Try regular daily exercise.
> 
>> Yeah, that would be a start...
> 
>> Then again, I've reached the point now where I take up to 4 hours of 
>> dance classes per week. (And 3 hours of that is Rock & Roll.) Obviously 
>> [or perhaps not?] a one hour class isn't a continuous one hour workout. 
>> You stand around waiting for whoever to sort out the next CD. You 
>> practice a move through, stop, try it again, stop and try again. You 
>> dance a combination of moves and then have a rest. Still, it's certainly 
>> better than nothing.
> 
>   Sounds like much better than nothing, but if you really want to get into
> better shape in a rational amount of time, you need that (about) 1 hour of
> cardio 5 or 6 times a week (preferably 6).

Heh. Maybe all I need to do is go outside and dance Tiger Feet for a 
while each night I'm not at class? ;-)

(Tiger Feet is a simple yet energetic dance. I imagine it's probably 
about as effective as doing star jumps for a while, while being less 
dull - mainly due to the presence of Mud.)

>   Walking is good exercise because it's easy to do even for someone who is
> in bad shape, and doesn't require a lot of fitness to begin with. As long
> as you walking pace is fast enough (you get a bit exhausted and break a
> sweat) it's as good as going to the gym.

I've always been a sprint runner, not long distance. At school, I could 
sprint extremely fast, but I almost couldn't finish a 100m sprint due to 
lack of energy.

I have quite literally *no idea* how I survived Saturday night. Usually 
when I dance it takes me ages to recover. But on Saturday night, I 
danced and danced and danced and danced. And, more to the point, I 
didn't feel tired. Even when I got home at, like, 1am, you'd *think* I 
would be half asleep and my legs would be like lead. But no, I was wide 
awake, I was dancing drop-basics on my way from the car to the front 
door, I was hoping and skipping. I was *psyched*! I have no idea how the 
hell I did that...

I do quite often go for a walk in my lunch break at work. Trouble is, I 
*can't* break into a sweat, because I've got to sit at my desk for the 
rest of the day. Besides, I find that if I walk fast, long before I get 
breathless or sweaty, I get crippling cramps in my legs, particularly my 
calf muscles.

>>>   (For most optimal results, you would have to start also watching a bit
>>> what you eat. More proteins and fibers, less carbs, more plant fats and
>>> less animal fats.)
> 
>> ...so, *not* cheese on toast then?
> 
>   Cheese is ok (lots of protein, no carbs), but of course in moderation,
> as everything else. Toast is usually made of white bread, which has
> staggering amounts of carbohydrates. If it's basically the *only* source
> of carbs you have (ie. you don't eat candy and such), then it's ok, but
> don't exaggerate.
> 
>   From your photos I don't think you are overweight, so you don't have to
> watch so much your carb intake, as long as your diet is *balanced* and
> healthy. Just don't go overboard. Eating candy and pastries all day long
> is a bad idea no matter what your weight or fitness. (If nothing else, too
> much sugar increases the risk of diabetes and caries, and via that indirectly
> heart problems.)

My diet consists mainly of cheese sandwiches, cheese on toast, pizza, 
pasta and chicken.

Around 2009, my weight suddenly started increasing for no apparent 
reason. (The only lifestyle change I can think of is that that's when I 
started dancing.) Now half my trousers don't fit any more. But beyond 
that, I'm still the stick insect I always was.

Oh, and I was fairly recently poked and prodded by a doctor because I 
kept having random chest pains. We determined fairly comprehensively 
that whatever the problem was, it wasn't heart-related.

Never the less, sitting motionless until your legs actually hurt from 
lack of bloodflow surely can't be healthy...

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>> During the first dance, the device registered a maximum BPM reading of
>> 193.
>
>  Are you sure the device is working properly?

Seems ok to me for a not-super-fit person doing a strenuous dance.  I know 
if I start out on my bike and attack the hill at the end of my road full 
power I can easily get to 180+ within a minute or two.  But my watch gives 
me 3 beeps when it goes over 175 so I know to back off a bit.

> On the other hand, while driving home, the monitor did briefly flash up
> 206 BPM,

ANything can interferes with the signal between the chest strap and the 
watch can cause problems.  If I cycle under power cables, or near an 
electrified railway track it screws up.  Cars are notorious for electrical 
interference, so I wouldn't believe anything it says whilst in a car.

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On 20/07/2010 2:59 PM, Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Stephen<mca### [at] aolDOTcom>  wrote:
>> On 20/07/2010 2:33 PM, Warp wrote:
>>> Stephen<mca### [at] aoldotcom>   wrote:
>>>>>      I envision the pick-up line: "Hey, can I palpate your pulse from your
>>>>> femoral artery? For scientific purposes only."
>>>
>>>> You missed out "It won't hurt much".
>>>
>>>     Why would it hurt at all?
>>>
>>
>> I was thinking of it as a pressure point, not comfortable.
>
> The slap might hurt, though.
>
>
There is that :-)

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen

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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> My diet consists mainly of cheese sandwiches, cheese on toast, pizza, 
> pasta and chicken.

> Around 2009, my weight suddenly started increasing for no apparent 
> reason.

  There is a reason: Age.

  While this varies a lot from person to person, it's extremely common that
when you are young (ie. in your early twenties) you can often eat whatever
you like and nothing special happens, but when you reach a certain age,
often around the point when you turn middle-aged, suddenly your body
chemistry changes and it starts storing most of that energy instead of
getting rid of it. Suddenly you notice that you can't eat all the junk food
you ate in your early twenties without it going to your belly and thighs.

  (This is very often accentuated by the fact that at this age you usually
start going to real jobs and getting some serious income, allowing you to
spend more on junk food, while at the same time reducing the amount of
exercise you get because you don't have the time anymore, being busy at
work and all.)

  It is just a fact of life that when you reach a certain age (typically
somewhere around 30) you just must start watching what you eat if you don't
want your belly to start growing. There are exceptions, of course, but it's
pretty common.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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Stephen wrote:
> is called throttling, a choke cuts off the air supply and strangling is 
> a combination of both (British definition).

It never even occurred to me to wonder if these three words had different 
definitions. Cool.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that its best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.

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Invisible wrote:
> (I've never heard of it being measured from your neck. I especially like 
> the way the instructions said "but don't press too hard". Um, why? What 
> happens if you press too hard??)

If you press too hard then you close off the vein and you can't feel the 
pulse any more.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that its best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.

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Invisible wrote:
> I do quite often go for a walk in my lunch break at work. Trouble is, I 
> *can't* break into a sweat, because I've got to sit at my desk for the 
> rest of the day.

So pack a bag in your car with extra shirts, a stick of deoderant, and some 
hand towels, and wash off when you get back.  Most office buildings have 
showers for just this reason, but it doesn't sound like you work in a real 
office building.

 > Besides, I find that if I walk fast, long before I get
> breathless or sweaty, I get crippling cramps in my legs, particularly my 
> calf muscles.

When that happens, stop and stretch. That's the lactose(?) building up, and 
stretching your muscles works it into the blood stream where it can get 
properly recycled/disposed/digested/whatever.

> Around 2009, my weight suddenly started increasing for no apparent 
> reason. 

Welcome to the f'ing club. It's called getting older.

> Never the less, sitting motionless until your legs actually hurt from 
> lack of bloodflow surely can't be healthy...

Well, no. Get up and go outside and walk around the building a couple times. 
It's also probably bad air in the place unless you have windows that open, 
so getting the stale co2 out of your system for a few minutes will help you 
think also.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that its best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.

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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:33:36 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> When that happens, stop and stretch. That's the lactose(?) building up,
> and stretching your muscles works it into the blood stream where it can
> get properly recycled/disposed/digested/whatever.

Lactic acid.  That also is what can make you feel queasy when working 
out; one of the trainers I worked with suggested eating something (not a 
lot, an energy bar or something like that) right before working out to 
help with the queasiness.

Jim

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On 20/07/2010 4:25 PM, Darren New wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> is called throttling, a choke cuts off the air supply and strangling
>> is a combination of both (British definition).
>
> It never even occurred to me to wonder if these three words had
> different definitions. Cool.
>

It's not really important in RL, it's more of a martial arts thing. If 
you relate choke and throttle to old cars it is easy to remember.

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Best Regards,
	Stephen

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