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From: John VanSickle
Subject: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 10 Jun 2010 18:45:11
Message: <4c116af7@news.povray.org>
Some of you probably know how I accomplished this.

Regards,
John


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 07:25:01
Message: <web.4c121bf0e46fa193a4659c30@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Some of you probably know how I accomplished this.

you've made a pact with the devil? :P


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 09:15:17
Message: <4c1236e5@news.povray.org>
On 6/11/2010 6:20 AM, nemesis wrote:
> John VanSickle<evi### [at] hotmailcom>  wrote:
>> Some of you probably know how I accomplished this.
>
> you've made a pact with the devil? :P
>
>

What I simply can't believe is that he sold his soul to win at freecell 
of all things. You'd think you'd go for something a little more 
upmarket.. :D

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 09:24:31
Message: <4c12390f$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> What I simply can't believe is that he sold his soul to win at freecell 
> of all things. You'd think you'd go for something a little more 
> upmarket.. :D

If I sold my soul for the ability to solve the Halting Problem, would 
that allow me to defy the usual laws of causality?

Could I use it to predict the outcome of somebody's mental processes 
before it happens?

Would this enable me to finally get laid??


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 10:11:45
Message: <4c124421$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/11/2010 8:24 AM, Invisible wrote:

> If I sold my soul for the ability to solve the Halting Problem, would
> that allow me to defy the usual laws of causality?

No.

> Could I use it to predict the outcome of somebody's mental processes
> before it happens?

No.

> Would this enable me to finally get laid??

Definitely not.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 10:23:24
Message: <4c1246dc$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

>> Would this enable me to finally get laid??
> 
> Definitely not.

Damn. You need to tell me your secrets...

...oh, wait. American. Oh well! ;-)


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 12:15:01
Message: <web.4c12603ae46fa193a4659c30@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Would this enable me to finally get laid??

no, but cash would do the job fairly quickly.  More appropriately, a
professional would do the job.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 13:00:54
Message: <4c126bc5@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> If I sold my soul for the ability to solve the Halting Problem, would 
> that allow me to defy the usual laws of causality?

  You can't sell your soul to solve an unsolvable problem.

  However, if you sell it for the proof to the P=NP question and the
Riemann hypothesis, that would be something. (Or at least you would get
2 million dollars richer, and famous among the scientific community.)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 13:11:49
Message: <4c126e55@news.povray.org>
On 6/11/2010 9:23 AM, Invisible wrote:

>
> Damn. You need to tell me your secrets...

I already have.

> ...oh, wait. American. Oh well! ;-)

That's irrelevant in the scheme of things.

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~Mike


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 14:25:04
Message: <4c127f80@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> If I sold my soul for the ability to solve the Halting Problem, would 
>> that allow me to defy the usual laws of causality?
> 
>   You can't sell your soul to solve an unsolvable problem.

It is known that a Turning machine cannot determine whether a given 
machine will halt. No reason why I can't sell my soul for the ability to 
be able to tell. ;-)

>   However, if you sell it for the proof to the P=NP question and the
> Riemann hypothesis, that would be something. (Or at least you would get
> 2 million dollars richer, and famous among the scientific community.)

Unfortunately, we're dealing with the Devil here. He'd probably agree to 
buy my soul in return for the proof of P=NP, and then it turns out that 
actually P /= NP so I get nothing (but He still gets my soul...)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 14:37:58
Message: <4c128285@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >   However, if you sell it for the proof to the P=NP question and the
> > Riemann hypothesis, that would be something. (Or at least you would get
> > 2 million dollars richer, and famous among the scientific community.)

> Unfortunately, we're dealing with the Devil here. He'd probably agree to 
> buy my soul in return for the proof of P=NP, and then it turns out that 
> actually P /= NP so I get nothing (but He still gets my soul...)

  Of course you have to negotiate. When the scientific community accepts
the proofs, then the soul ownership is transferred, not before.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 16:15:42
Message: <4c12996e$1@news.povray.org>
On 2010-06-10 18:45, John VanSickle wrote:
> Some of you probably know how I accomplished this.

Only on 77 wins/77 played, myself.

However, I do know that only one of the games in its repertoire is 
actually unsolvable.

--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 12 Jun 2010 04:47:33
Message: <4c1349a5@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>> Unfortunately, we're dealing with the Devil here. He'd probably agree to 
>> buy my soul in return for the proof of P=NP, and then it turns out that 
>> actually P /= NP so I get nothing (but He still gets my soul...)
> 
>   Of course you have to negotiate. When the scientific community accepts
> the proofs, then the soul ownership is transferred, not before.

Ah. I see you've delt with Satan before? ;-)

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 12 Jun 2010 12:29:28
Message: <4c13b5e8$1@news.povray.org>
Am 11.06.2010 22:15, schrieb Tim Cook:

> However, I do know that only one of the games in its repertoire is
> actually unsolvable.

There /is/ an unsolvable game??


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 12 Jun 2010 20:57:21
Message: <4c142cf1$1@news.povray.org>
On 2010-06-12 12:29, clipka wrote:
> There /is/ an unsolvable game??

Wikipedia is your friend: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeCell_(Windows)#Unsolvable_combinations

--
Tim Cook
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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 13 Jun 2010 12:14:06
Message: <4c1503ce$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> Some of you probably know how I accomplished this.
> 
> you've made a pact with the devil? :P

No, it's simpler.  When I see that I am not going to lose, but before 
the program declares the game lost, I simply stop playing and leave the 
game and application running.  When Windows shuts down, it closes the 
app without finishing the game (or even bothering to ask) and does not 
record the game as either a win or a loss.  As far as the record goes, 
the game never happened.

This is all on the version that comes with WinXP.  Later versions may 
not be as forgiving.

Regards,
John


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 13 Jun 2010 12:15:14
Message: <4c150412$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
> 
>>> Would this enable me to finally get laid??
>>
>> Definitely not.
> 
> Damn. You need to tell me your secrets...
> 
> ...oh, wait. American. Oh well! ;-)

Being an American never got me anything in Britain, except interminable 
arguments about American foreign policy.

Regards,
John


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 13 Jun 2010 12:15:19
Message: <4c150417@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> No, it's simpler.  When I see that I am not going to lose, but before 
> the program declares the game lost, I simply stop playing and leave the 
> game and application running.  When Windows shuts down, it closes the 
> app without finishing the game (or even bothering to ask) and does not 
> record the game as either a win or a loss.  As far as the record goes, 
> the game never happened.

  But the obvious question is: Why do that?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 13 Jun 2010 12:19:44
Message: <4c150520$1@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle wrote:

> No, it's simpler.  When I see that I am not going to lose, but before 
> the program declares the game lost, I simply stop playing and leave the 
> game and application running.  When Windows shuts down, it closes the 
> app without finishing the game (or even bothering to ask) and does not 
> record the game as either a win or a loss.  As far as the record goes, 
> the game never happened.
> 
> This is all on the version that comes with WinXP.  Later versions may 
> not be as forgiving.

In that case, killing it from Task Manager probably has the same effect 
(but faster).

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 15 Jun 2010 03:11:21
Message: <4C17279F.3070302@gmail.com>
On 13-6-2010 18:13, John VanSickle wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>> Some of you probably know how I accomplished this.
>>
>> you've made a pact with the devil? :P
> 
> No, it's simpler.  When I see that I am not going to lose, but before 
> the program declares the game lost, I simply stop playing and leave the 
> game and application running.  When Windows shuts down, it closes the 
> app without finishing the game (or even bothering to ask) and does not 
> record the game as either a win or a loss.  As far as the record goes, 
> the game never happened.
> 
> This is all on the version that comes with WinXP.  Later versions may 
> not be as forgiving.

A faster, but more boring, approach would be to use the option of 
selecting a game number. Always choose a number you know how to win.


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 17 Jun 2010 07:33:53
Message: <4c1a0821$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> No, it's simpler.  When I see that I am not going to lose, but before 
>> the program declares the game lost, I simply stop playing and leave the 
>> game and application running.  When Windows shuts down, it closes the 
>> app without finishing the game (or even bothering to ask) and does not 
>> record the game as either a win or a loss.  As far as the record goes, 
>> the game never happened.
> 
>   But the obvious question is: Why do that?

So that I can post a screen shot of a long winning streak.

Regards,
John


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 17 Jun 2010 08:14:44
Message: <4c1a11b4$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/17/2010 6:33 AM, John VanSickle wrote:

>> But the obvious question is: Why do that?
>
> So that I can post a screen shot of a long winning streak.
>

In other words: Just because you can? ;)

Dang, I'm sure you could have just edited some values in the registry 
for the same effect :D

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 17 Jun 2010 08:47:23
Message: <4c1a195b@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> Dang, I'm sure you could have just edited some values in the registry 
> for the same effect :D

This is why MS Paint was invented...


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