Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Wait, what the... NOW WIKIPEDIA IS DIFFERENT! O_O
> 
> Am I *really* going mad? Is anyone else seeing this??

They have been telling people about the future change in a banner in every 
page, for a month. Not to mention that the new layout was in an opt-in beta 
test for many many months.

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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> They have been telling people about the future change in a banner in every 
> page, for a month.

Seems more like 6 months. I had by now assumed it was just an empty 
promise and forgotten all about it.

Man, first Google now Wikipedia. I'm just waiting to log into Facebook 
and find that it's now green instead of blue...

(I *like* green!)

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On 5/13/2010 1:55 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Wait, what the... NOW WIKIPEDIA IS DIFFERENT! O_O
>
>
>
> Am I *really* going mad? Is anyone else seeing this??
>


I've been seeing it for a couple months. I've been trying out the beta 
for quite some time ;)

-- 
~Mike

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Invisible wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> 
>> They have been telling people about the future change in a banner in
>> every page, for a month.
> 
> Seems more like 6 months. I had by now assumed it was just an empty
> promise and forgotten all about it.
> 
> Man, first Google now Wikipedia. I'm just waiting to log into Facebook
> and find that it's now green instead of blue...

Facebook likes to change it upside down every three months. I hate that.

Not because I don't like changes, but because I don't like the two-week-long 
whining from all its users who don't like changes.

I wish they would do incremental changes every week instead of giant changes 
every three months.

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On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:44:37 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

>> Man, first Google now Wikipedia. I'm just waiting to log into Facebook
>> and find that it's now green instead of blue...
> 
> Facebook likes to change it upside down every three months. I hate that.

Actually, with FB it's more like they change the default privacy options 
for all users to expose more data every three months.  It's not rocket 
science to set things up so when they change things, the default is 
"secure" rather than "open", would be nice if they actually learned that 
lesson.

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:44:37 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> 
>>> Man, first Google now Wikipedia. I'm just waiting to log into Facebook
>>> and find that it's now green instead of blue...
>> 
>> Facebook likes to change it upside down every three months. I hate that.
> 
> Actually, with FB it's more like they change the default privacy options
> for all users to expose more data every three months.  It's not rocket
> science to set things up so when they change things, the default is
> "secure" rather than "open", would be nice if they actually learned that
> lesson.

It's not like they don't know how to make it secure; probably they are 
*intentionally* opening those privacy holes.

The recent addition of community pages and making public what pages you have 
"liked" is to let advertisers know what you like.

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On Fri, 14 May 2010 17:31:55 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:44:37 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> 
>>>> Man, first Google now Wikipedia. I'm just waiting to log into
>>>> Facebook and find that it's now green instead of blue...
>>> 
>>> Facebook likes to change it upside down every three months. I hate
>>> that.
>> 
>> Actually, with FB it's more like they change the default privacy
>> options for all users to expose more data every three months.  It's not
>> rocket science to set things up so when they change things, the default
>> is "secure" rather than "open", would be nice if they actually learned
>> that lesson.
> 
> It's not like they don't know how to make it secure; probably they are
> *intentionally* opening those privacy holes.

The EU is having a bit of a field day with it, it looks like, so 
hopefully some good will come from that.

> The recent addition of community pages and making public what pages you
> have "liked" is to let advertisers know what you like.

Yeah, that whole page thing is driving me a little nuts right now - every 
time I login it asks me if I want to become a "fan" of pages related to 
movies, books, etc that I've said I like in my profile.

What's more, everything is selected by default, and there's no "deselect 
all" option.

So if I want to continue to maintain my privacy on that stuff, I have to 
manually deselect each one of what looks to be about a hundred "we think 
you'll be interested in this" options.

Quite annoying.  Still, if I hadn't wanted to share that information, I 
could've not included it.

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> The EU is having a bit of a field day with it, it looks like, so 
> hopefully some good will come from that.

The fundamental problem is that legal systems are pretty much universally 
based on geography while IP is specifically designed to put every address 
equidistant from every other address.

If Facebook's entire operation was in the USA, what could the EU do?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Ada - the programming language trying to avoid
    you literally shooting yourself in the foot.

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On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:33:16 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> The EU is having a bit of a field day with it, it looks like, so
>> hopefully some good will come from that.
> 
> The fundamental problem is that legal systems are pretty much
> universally based on geography while IP is specifically designed to put
> every address equidistant from every other address.
> 
> If Facebook's entire operation was in the USA, what could the EU do?

That's a valid point, but at the same time, there are successful 
enforcements of privacy laws in different venues regardless of where 
services are hosted.

But I think with Facebook, they operate (as in "have servers located in") 
the EU, so the debate is something of a nonstarter as a practical 
exercise, but interesting as a theoretical exercise.

Jim

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Darren New wrote:

> what could the EU do?

Heh. What would Jesus do? :-D

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