On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:07:49 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>>> Is that why American people are so stupid?
>>>
>>> Or maybe it's *because* American people are stupid? IDK.
>>>
>>> [Perhaps I should append "on average" to that...]
>> 
>> Well, there are quite a few very smart people over here too, many of
>> whom went to public schools.  But a fair number are lazy when it comes
>> to facts and don't see the "value" in them.
>> 
>> But I don't think that's just Americans, either.
> 
> This is equally worrying - and possibly equally true. (Although for
> whatever reason, it's typically Americans who are thought of as being
> stupid. I sometimes wonder if the rest of the world thinks that all
> Englishmen walk around in top hats eating fish and chips?)

Yeah, it's called stereotyping. ;-)

And generally it's not accurate for individuals, or about as accurate as 
racial profiling.

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:

> Yeah, it's called stereotyping. ;-)
> 
> And generally it's not accurate for individuals, or about as accurate as 
> racial profiling.

Racial profiling *isn't* sterotyping??

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On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:37:50 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, it's called stereotyping. ;-)
>> 
>> And generally it's not accurate for individuals, or about as accurate
>> as racial profiling.
> 
> Racial profiling *isn't* sterotyping??

It's a type of stereotyping, yes.

Jim

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On 5/11/2010 12:24 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> ...that's actually kinda scary.
>>>
>> Oh, yes.. And again with Acorn.. An organization cleared of *any*
>> wrong doing, which got defunded and closed its doors as a result of
>> maleficence, misinformation, and false accusations, by some ass that
>> faked ***all*** of the evidence he claimed he had against them. Yeah..
>> So, lets see the transparency of the people that backed *him* while he
>> did it.
>
> I have no idea what you're talking about. I get the feeling I might
> actually be better off that way. o_O
>
lol

Short version is that Acorn *was* a group that helped various poor, or 
small business, but they where also Liberals, and helped out in signing 
people up for elections. They **self reported** some irregularities in a 
few of those sign ups, as per law. I.e., they did the right thing. The 
GOP used them as a whipping boy, blamed them for just about everything 
from Obama being elected, to illegal... whatever it was, since they 
never seemed to have anything precise, other than being damn liberals. 
Some dipshit dressed up as a pimp (and who claims to be on the forefront 
of the "new journalism) later went in, and tried to get them to "help 
him", with his "small business".

Only:

1. After they had already closed doors, lost all funding and went out of 
business, it was determined that other than a few minor, and not 
uncommon, mistakes, they never did **anything** intentionally illegal, 
or even barely more than perhaps, unintentionally irregular.

2. It was determined, when someone *finally* got the original footage 
from the pimp guy, that he had filmed his leaving and entering in the 
pimp get up, along with two women, but then pasted that to the start and 
end of the final tape. He ***actually*** entered the offices *without* 
the women, and dressed in a conservative, perfectly normal, business 
suit. They told him to leave several times during his "interview", and 
finally threatened to call the cops on him if he didn't. This was, 
again, edited out, in order to make it seem like they *knew* he was 
running a prostitution ring and where going to help him with his 
"business" anyway.

I don't know how you missed it. We spent the entire fracking end of the 
Obama campaign, and most of the time, up until about 4 months ago, 
listening to them whine about Acorn, and blame them from just about 
everything from bad weather to the oil spill, or at least try to use 
them as an "example" of the stuff they where "fighting". As usual 
though, they where tilting at windmills, and/or burning people at the 
stake over the political equivalent of demon possession, or 
transgression with the "devil!", while the rest of us tried to figure 
out what the hell the actual problem was, and why they were ignoring 50 
thousands other people, to pick on some two bit company that helped 
people plan business decisions, or what ever the hell it was they 
actually did.

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Patrick Elliott wrote:

> I don't know how you missed it. We spent the entire fracking end of the 
> Obama campaign, and most of the time, up until about 4 months ago,

By not being in America?

Or rather, I gather there was a bit of coverage of the whole USA 
election thing, but I purposely ignored it because I don't actually *care*.

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On 12-5-2010 23:13, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> On 5/11/2010 12:24 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> I don't know how you missed it. 

easy, we don't live there

> We spent the entire fracking end of the 
> Obama campaign, and most of the time, up until about 4 months ago, 
> listening to them whine about Acorn, and blame them from just about 
> everything from bad weather to the oil spill, or at least try to use 
> them as an "example" of the stuff they where "fighting". 


I don't think this was reported apart from some of it during the 
campaign. I can only guess as to why not. One guess is that journalists 
here do not think it is important. A more likely guess is that it so 
much away from normal behaviour that they simply don't believe it. On 
this side of the ocean the journalists and networks are all independent 
from the government (except for italy). The idea that a broadcasting 
company would knowingly try to misinform people in order to destabilize 
the current government because that government is from another party is 
totally inconceivable (I think it is actually treason). There are a 
couple of people from the US that have repeatedly claimed that 
nonetheless that is what is happening. I cannot believe it.

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andrel wrote:
> On 12-5-2010 23:13, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> On 5/11/2010 12:24 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 
>> I don't know how you missed it. 
> 
> easy, we don't live there

Honestly, I live here and it was so much standard political posturing that I 
didn't pay attention to it anyway.

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On 5/11/2010 1:07 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> stupid. I sometimes wonder if the rest of the world thinks that all
> Englishmen walk around in top hats eating fish and chips?)

You mean you don't?

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>> I sometimes wonder if the rest of the world thinks that all
>> Englishmen walk around in top hats eating fish and chips?
> 
> You mean you don't?

No.

Well, I don't own a top hat (apparently genuine ones are rare items 
now). I do own three waitcoats and a trillby though...

I also eat - well, not *fish* and chips, but usually pie and chips or 
something. And no, it doesn't come wrapped in newspaper. That would be 
some kind of hazard, given the toxicity of the inks used. (!)

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On 5/13/2010 1:07 AM, Invisible wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>
>> I don't know how you missed it. We spent the entire fracking end of
>> the Obama campaign, and most of the time, up until about 4 months ago,
>
> By not being in America?
>
> Or rather, I gather there was a bit of coverage of the whole USA
> election thing, but I purposely ignored it because I don't actually *care*.
lol Yeah, well. Still, my impression was that most of the rest of the 
world *tends* to have a clearer picture if what idiot things go on here, 
sometimes, than half the people living here. ;)

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