>> I remember just sitting there in utter astonishment that somebody could
>> actually write this stuff and expect to be taken seriously. Or that
>> anybody would be willing to print it, for that matter. WTF?
>>
>> The most worrying part is that this guy is apparently a scientist. He
>> actually works for somebody studying molecular biology. (Or so he
>> claims. In retrospect, I have to wonder if it's actually true...)
>>
> No. He is a mathematician, and a bad one, who works for some hack at the 
> Discovery Institute, who probably got *his* science degree from some 
> place like Liberty University, or the like. Alternatively, it might have 
> been from a legitimate institution, but they where one of the clowns 
> that managed to put out a final thesis that is 100% based on what they 
> learned in class, thus appearing to understand the material, while, 
> never the less, rejecting 100% of the conclusions, including the ones 
> they put in their own final paper. This has, unfortunately, happened a 
> few times in recent years...

His book claims that he works in a lab somewhere studying the chemistry 
of the cell.

Then again, his book also claims that life was designed by an 
intelligent entity and that every lifeform that ever came into being was 
pre-encoded into the DNA of the first single-celled microbe that was 
artificially placed on Earth, so...

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>>>> Sure. But if you read something in a book, there is a high probability
>>>> that it has some basis in fact. If you read something off da
>>>> intertubes, it could be utter nonesense.
>>> You haven't read some of the textbooks that are in the US educational
>>> system.  Fair amount of nonsense in there, put in by religious nutjobs
>>> who want public schools to teach their particular brand of religion.
>> OK, that's quite worrying.
> 
> You're telling me.  I went to public school here. ;-)

Is that why American people are so stupid?

Or maybe it's *because* American people are stupid? IDK.

[Perhaps I should append "on average" to that...]

>> I believe the quotation you're searching for is "history is written by
>> the victors".
> 
> I wasn't actually searching for a quotation.

I know that. ;-)

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> There is that too. But, mostly, in the US, if you print *facts* about 
> what the other side saw happen to them, or what took place that wasn't 
> mentioned in dear old granddad's, or just dad's history books, its 
> "revisionism". Removing say.. Thomas Jefferson from history books, to 
> replace him with St. Thomas Aquinas, on the other hand, is seen as 
> "fixing" a deficit in US history, and upholding its "Christian" 
> heritage... >>head -> desk<<

...that's actually kinda scary.

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On Tue, 11 May 2010 07:41:40 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>>>>> Sure. But if you read something in a book, there is a high
>>>>> probability that it has some basis in fact. If you read something
>>>>> off da intertubes, it could be utter nonesense.
>>>> You haven't read some of the textbooks that are in the US educational
>>>> system.  Fair amount of nonsense in there, put in by religious
>>>> nutjobs who want public schools to teach their particular brand of
>>>> religion.
>>> OK, that's quite worrying.
>> 
>> You're telling me.  I went to public school here. ;-)
> 
> Is that why American people are so stupid?
> 
> Or maybe it's *because* American people are stupid? IDK.
> 
> [Perhaps I should append "on average" to that...]

Well, there are quite a few very smart people over here too, many of whom 
went to public schools.  But a fair number are lazy when it comes to 
facts and don't see the "value" in them.

But I don't think that's just Americans, either.

Jim

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>> Is that why American people are so stupid?
>>
>> Or maybe it's *because* American people are stupid? IDK.
>>
>> [Perhaps I should append "on average" to that...]
> 
> Well, there are quite a few very smart people over here too, many of whom 
> went to public schools.  But a fair number are lazy when it comes to 
> facts and don't see the "value" in them.
> 
> But I don't think that's just Americans, either.

This is equally worrying - and possibly equally true. (Although for 
whatever reason, it's typically Americans who are thought of as being 
stupid. I sometimes wonder if the rest of the world thinks that all 
Englishmen walk around in top hats eating fish and chips?)

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On 5/10/2010 11:37 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> I remember just sitting there in utter astonishment that somebody could
>>> actually write this stuff and expect to be taken seriously. Or that
>>> anybody would be willing to print it, for that matter. WTF?
>>>
>>> The most worrying part is that this guy is apparently a scientist. He
>>> actually works for somebody studying molecular biology. (Or so he
>>> claims. In retrospect, I have to wonder if it's actually true...)
>>>
>> No. He is a mathematician, and a bad one, who works for some hack at
>> the Discovery Institute, who probably got *his* science degree from
>> some place like Liberty University, or the like. Alternatively, it
>> might have been from a legitimate institution, but they where one of
>> the clowns that managed to put out a final thesis that is 100% based
>> on what they learned in class, thus appearing to understand the
>> material, while, never the less, rejecting 100% of the conclusions,
>> including the ones they put in their own final paper. This has,
>> unfortunately, happened a few times in recent years...
>
> His book claims that he works in a lab somewhere studying the chemistry
> of the cell.
>
> Then again, his book also claims that life was designed by an
> intelligent entity and that every lifeform that ever came into being was
> pre-encoded into the DNA of the first single-celled microbe that was
> artificially placed on Earth, so...
>
Hmm. Net says: Biology professor at Lehigh University. Still not 
impressed. lol

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On 5/10/2010 11:42 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> There is that too. But, mostly, in the US, if you print *facts* about
>> what the other side saw happen to them, or what took place that wasn't
>> mentioned in dear old granddad's, or just dad's history books, its
>> "revisionism". Removing say.. Thomas Jefferson from history books, to
>> replace him with St. Thomas Aquinas, on the other hand, is seen as
>> "fixing" a deficit in US history, and upholding its "Christian"
>> heritage... >>head -> desk<<
>
> ...that's actually kinda scary.
>
http://www.mainepolitics.net/sites/default/files/Maine_GOP_platform.pdf

Note such real nice things, like denying children human rights, as 
covered by UN charters, for example... This is the "tea party" bozos 
that are taking over control of both the GOP, and all the clueless rubes 
that can't fracking tell the difference, since they just know its 
"Republican".

Though.. Best one is how much "intrusion" they want from the government, 
in denying people rights, in contradiction of the constitution, while 
claiming to both want the government out of their lives *and* everyone 
to adhere to the constitution... O.o These people make the Mad Hatter, 
in Alice in Wonderland, look sane.

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On 5/10/2010 11:42 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> There is that too. But, mostly, in the US, if you print *facts* about
>> what the other side saw happen to them, or what took place that wasn't
>> mentioned in dear old granddad's, or just dad's history books, its
>> "revisionism". Removing say.. Thomas Jefferson from history books, to
>> replace him with St. Thomas Aquinas, on the other hand, is seen as
>> "fixing" a deficit in US history, and upholding its "Christian"
>> heritage... >>head -> desk<<
>
> ...that's actually kinda scary.
>
Oh, yes.. And again with Acorn.. An organization cleared of *any* wrong 
doing, which got defunded and closed its doors as a result of 
maleficence, misinformation, and false accusations, by some ass that 
faked ***all*** of the evidence he claimed he had against them. Yeah.. 
So, lets see the transparency of the people that backed *him* while he 
did it.

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>> ...that's actually kinda scary.
>>
> http://www.mainepolitics.net/sites/default/files/Maine_GOP_platform.pdf

"Reject any legislation which seeks to confiscate our firearms."

Wow, big surprise there...

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>> ...that's actually kinda scary.
>>
> Oh, yes.. And again with Acorn.. An organization cleared of *any* wrong 
> doing, which got defunded and closed its doors as a result of 
> maleficence, misinformation, and false accusations, by some ass that 
> faked ***all*** of the evidence he claimed he had against them. Yeah.. 
> So, lets see the transparency of the people that backed *him* while he 
> did it.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I get the feeling I might 
actually be better off that way. o_O

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