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From: UncleHoot
Subject: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 09:05:16
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In the movie "The Happening" the trees start attacking people (more or 
less).  They released some sort of toxin.  Kind of a goofy concept in the 
way that it worked in the movie, but this article is quite troubling. 
Perhaps "The Environment" is fighting back.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36722426/ns/health-infectious_diseases/


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 09:32:31
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UncleHoot wrote:
> In the movie "The Happening" the trees start attacking people (more or 
> less).  They released some sort of toxin.  Kind of a goofy concept in the 
> way that it worked in the movie, but this article is quite troubling. 
> Perhaps "The Environment" is fighting back.

Nah, new diseases and pathogens have been comming into existence for 
millennia. (Otherwise we'd have all evolved total resistence to them 
long ago.) It's just that before now, we wouldn't have known about it. 
We'd just see people dying and not know why. (You might also argue that 
population density might make disease spread less dramatically...)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 12:16:51
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UncleHoot wrote:
> Perhaps "The Environment" is fighting back.

Uh, yes. Obviously.  We call it "evolution."  You should read up on it. ;-)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 12:18:23
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Invisible wrote:
> (You might also argue that 
> population density might make disease spread less dramatically...)

Actually, slow transport made population density much *higher* for most 
people. Plus lack of understanding of sanitation rules.

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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 12:26:40
Message: <4bd1ca40$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> UncleHoot wrote:
>> In the movie "The Happening" the trees start attacking people (more or
>> less).  They released some sort of toxin.  Kind of a goofy concept in
>> the way that it worked in the movie, but this article is quite
>> troubling. Perhaps "The Environment" is fighting back.
> 
> Nah, new diseases and pathogens have been comming into existence for
> millennia. (Otherwise we'd have all evolved total resistence to them
> long ago.) It's just that before now, we wouldn't have known about it.
> We'd just see people dying and not know why. (You might also argue that
> population density might make disease spread less dramatically...)

This isn't even a new pathogen. It's the same old fungus that has killed
people in the tropics for decades, just showing up outside of the
expected area and acting a bit more dangerous. It may be a new species,
but right now it is still classed as just a new strain of the same old
spore.

Sounds like a beast of a spore to kill, though. Antifungal medications
are nasty, most of them will cause kidney, liver, bleeding problems,
along with all sorts of side effects. I think the saying goes "The
infection hasn't killed you yet. We have drugs that can fix that."


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 12:35:31
Message: <4bd1cc53$1@news.povray.org>
UncleHoot wrote:
> In the movie "The Happening" the trees start attacking people (more or 
> less).  They released some sort of toxin.  Kind of a goofy concept in the 
> way that it worked in the movie, but this article is quite troubling. 
> Perhaps "The Environment" is fighting back.
> 
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36722426/ns/health-infectious_diseases/ 

"It has killed nearly one out of four known affected people..."

Wait...what?

Four known affected people, but only *nearly* one dead.  So either 
someone is mostly dead, or one person is dead and another is an 
itty-witty bit dead.

(In other news, there's a bunch of acacia trees in South Africa that got 
pissed off at the deer/elk eating them and *as a group* turned poisonous 
and killed a whole herd.)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 13:00:31
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Tim Cook wrote:

> (In other news, there's a bunch of acacia trees in South Africa that got 
> pissed off at the deer/elk eating them and *as a group* turned poisonous 
> and killed a whole herd.)

Plants actually do that.

Well OK, no they don't. But apparently (IIRC) Oak trees communicate with 
each other. When one gets attacked by insects, it makes more tannins in 
its leaves, making them taste bad. But it also emits a chemical with 
nearby Oak trees detect, and they then start to make tannins also, even 
though *they* haven't actually been attacked yet.

So don't go thinking plants don't talk to each other and gang up on 
predators. ;-)

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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 13:03:16
Message: <op.vbmkbnbq7bxctx@toad.bredbandsbolaget.se>
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:35:27 +0200, Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>
> "It has killed nearly one out of four known affected people..."
>
> Wait...what?
>
> Four known affected people, but only *nearly* one dead.  So either  
> someone is mostly dead, or one person is dead and another is an  
> itty-witty bit dead.

"So far it has killed five out of 21 patients analyzed in the United  
States, a nearly 25 percent mortality rate."

One out of four known, not one out of *the* four known.



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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 13:25:58
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Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "It has killed nearly one out of four known affected people..."

> Wait...what?

  "One out of four" means 25%.

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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 14:38:33
Message: <4bd1e929$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> "It has killed nearly one out of four known affected people..."
> 
>> Wait...what?
> 
>   "One out of four" means 25%.

Yeah, but the 'known affected' threw me a bit.  Implied (to me) that 
*only* four were known to be affected.  lol

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 15:03:33
Message: <4BD1EF02.80402@gmail.com>
On 23-4-2010 15:05, UncleHoot wrote:
> In the movie "The Happening" the trees start attacking people (more or 
> less).  They released some sort of toxin.  Kind of a goofy concept in the 
> way that it worked in the movie, but this article is quite troubling. 
> Perhaps "The Environment" is fighting back.
> 
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36722426/ns/health-infectious_diseases/ 

It seems to me that the most easy way to solve this problem is... er 
burn down all the forests. I think you'll agree that's a sensible move 
under the circumstances.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 15:13:34
Message: <4BD1F15B.3010205@gmail.com>
On 23-4-2010 20:38, Tim Cook wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>> "It has killed nearly one out of four known affected people..."
>>
>>> Wait...what?
>>
>>   "One out of four" means 25%.
> 
> Yeah, but the 'known affected' threw me a bit.  Implied (to me) that 
> *only* four were known to be affected.  lol

Yours is a valid interpretation of what was written. Most probably not 
what was meant, but I might remember that you tend to misinterpret more 
often for comical effect.


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From: UncleHoot
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 15:27:49
Message: <4bd1f4b5$1@news.povray.org>
"Tim Cook" <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4bd1e929$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Yeah, but the 'known affected' threw me a bit.  Implied (to me) that 
> *only* four were known to be affected.  lol
>

Yeah, I had to re-read that a couple of times.  It sounded like "nearly one 
person died".  lol


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From: UncleHoot
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 15:30:38
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"andrel" <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4BD### [at] gmailcom...
> On 23-4-2010 15:05, UncleHoot wrote:
>> In the movie "The Happening" the trees start attacking people (more or 
>> less).  They released some sort of toxin.  Kind of a goofy concept in the 
>> way that it worked in the movie, but this article is quite troubling. 
>> Perhaps "The Environment" is fighting back.
>>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36722426/ns/health-infectious_diseases/
>
> It seems to me that the most easy way to solve this problem is... er burn 
> down all the forests. I think you'll agree that's a sensible move under 
> the circumstances.
>

AWESOME!  Now it's the "Toxic Forest" of _Nausicaa of the Valley of the 
Wind_.  Then we'll construct the Giant Warriors to defend against the 
insects who live there, and...


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 15:44:05
Message: <4BD1F882.4070307@gmail.com>
On 23-4-2010 21:30, UncleHoot wrote:
> "andrel" <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
> news:4BD### [at] gmailcom...
>> On 23-4-2010 15:05, UncleHoot wrote:
>>> In the movie "The Happening" the trees start attacking people (more or 
>>> less).  They released some sort of toxin.  Kind of a goofy concept in the 
>>> way that it worked in the movie, but this article is quite troubling. 
>>> Perhaps "The Environment" is fighting back.
>>>
>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36722426/ns/health-infectious_diseases/
>> It seems to me that the most easy way to solve this problem is... er burn 
>> down all the forests. I think you'll agree that's a sensible move under 
>> the circumstances.
>>
> 
> AWESOME!  Now it's the "Toxic Forest" of _Nausicaa of the Valley of the 
> Wind_.  Then we'll construct the Giant Warriors to defend against the 
> insects who live there, and... 

It was a quote, but not from that place.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 15:45:31
Message: <4bd1f8db$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 escreveu:
> Tim Cook wrote:
> 
>> (In other news, there's a bunch of acacia trees in South Africa that 
>> got pissed off at the deer/elk eating them and *as a group* turned 
>> poisonous and killed a whole herd.)
> 
> Plants actually do that.
> 
> Well OK, no they don't. But apparently (IIRC) Oak trees communicate with 
> each other.

ents


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 15:49:25
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andrel escreveu:
> On 23-4-2010 15:05, UncleHoot wrote:
>> In the movie "The Happening" the trees start attacking people (more or 
>> less).  They released some sort of toxin.  Kind of a goofy concept in 
>> the way that it worked in the movie, but this article is quite 
>> troubling. Perhaps "The Environment" is fighting back.
>>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36722426/ns/health-infectious_diseases/ 
> 
> It seems to me that the most easy way to solve this problem is... er 
> burn down all the forests. I think you'll agree that's a sensible move 
> under the circumstances.

yeah, then after all forests are down, it's only a matter of feeding all 
the mosquitos who lived there praying from the local now dead fauna with 
our own cityfolks blood and coping with yet less oxygen and more global 
warming and the end of the world.  Sure nature strikes back the greedy 
virus...

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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 23 Apr 2010 22:45:50
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"Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote in message
news:op.### [at] toadbredbandsbolagetse...
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:35:27 +0200, Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> >
> > "It has killed nearly one out of four known affected people..."
> >
> > Wait...what?
> >
> > Four known affected people, but only *nearly* one dead.  So either
> > someone is mostly dead, or one person is dead and another is an
> > itty-witty bit dead.
>
> "So far it has killed five out of 21 patients analyzed in the United
> States, a nearly 25 percent mortality rate."
>
> One out of four known, not one out of *the* four known.

Goes to show you the quality of news editors nowadays... They then mean:

"It has killed nearly one out of four among known affected people..."

not

"It has killed nearly one out of four known affected people..."


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 24 Apr 2010 14:27:34
Message: <4bd33816$1@news.povray.org>
somebody wrote:
> Goes to show you the quality of news editors nowadays...

http://tinyurl.com/2dcpryg
http://tinyurl.com/25xu7jy


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 24 Apr 2010 14:29:12
Message: <4bd33878@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/2dcpryg
> http://tinyurl.com/25xu7jy

Yeah, that looks about right...

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Perhaps M. Night Shyamalan was onto something
Date: 24 Apr 2010 14:42:44
Message: <4bd33ba4$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> somebody wrote:
>> Goes to show you the quality of news editors nowadays...
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2dcpryg
> http://tinyurl.com/25xu7jy

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