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I pulled the trigger, and finally ordered my new computer components. I did
quite a bit of research, but of course I'm still nervous about putting it
all together.
I pretty much bought everything just like I said in my last post, but for
anyone interested, here are the specifics. Ordered from newegg.com.
1 x G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual
Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
1 x MSI N250GTS Twin Frozr 1G GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express
2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail
1 x Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
Hard Drive -Bare Drive
1 x ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
1 x VANTEC TF12025 120mm Case Fan - Retail
1 x LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower
Computer Case - Retail
1 x Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V
version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
"compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply - Retail
1 x Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
Model BX80605I7860 - Retail
1 x Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler - Retail
This is the largest single upgrade I have ever done, that did not require
buying an actual new computer (meaning an HP, Dell, etc.) Actually, I
haven't bought a new computer pre-assembled since I bought a 386-25MHz back
in 1990. I'd buy a new CPU/mobo/RAM or whatever, but keep my old case,
graphics card, hard drive, etc. But this time, the only thing I'm planning
to keep is my DVD drive and my monitor (1080p). So, future upgrades will
likely be more RAM, more HD space, and probably Blu-Ray at some point.
Hopefully, all of the components will arrive by Friday, and I'll probably
have the thing put together late that night. With luck, it will all work
together.
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"Jeremy \"UncleHoot\" Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftware cmo> wrote:
> I pulled the trigger, and finally ordered my new computer components. I did
> quite a bit of research, but of course I'm still nervous about putting it
> all together.
>
> I pretty much bought everything just like I said in my last post, but for
> anyone interested, here are the specifics. Ordered from newegg.com.
>
>
> 1 x G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual
> Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail
> 1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
> 1 x MSI N250GTS Twin Frozr 1G GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express
> 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail
> 1 x Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
> Hard Drive -Bare Drive
> 1 x ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
> 1 x VANTEC TF12025 120mm Case Fan - Retail
> 1 x LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower
> Computer Case - Retail
> 1 x Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V
> version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
> "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply - Retail
> 1 x Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
> Model BX80605I7860 - Retail
> 1 x Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler - Retail
aside from W7, pretty good-looking gear. Best of luck! :)
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Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
> 1 x Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
> Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Does anyone ever get even close to 3Gb/s on their hard drive? I have SATA
drives and I get about 80MB (340Mb/s). I have a hard time believing that
Linux has 5x overhead writing to a hard drive. Is there some SATA card I
don't know of that's significantly faster than the bus I have or something?
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Forget "focus follows mouse." When do
I get "focus follows gaze"?
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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: New computer... Wish me luck
Date: 16 Feb 2010 13:31:09
Message: <4b7ae46d@news.povray.org>
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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
news:4b7adbb9$1@news.povray.org...
> Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
>> 1 x Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
>> 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive
>
> Does anyone ever get even close to 3Gb/s on their hard drive? I have SATA
> drives and I get about 80MB (340Mb/s). I have a hard time believing that
> Linux has 5x overhead writing to a hard drive. Is there some SATA card I
> don't know of that's significantly faster than the bus I have or
> something?
>
I've always figured that if something was already in the drive cache, it
would probably transfer at (close to) 3Gb/s, but I don't think the actual
drive itself could read data anywhere near that fast.
Somewhere I saw a RAID array of (I think) 24 SDD's. While I don't recall
what the transfer rate was, it was insanely fast. Maybe someone here posted
it. Don't recall.
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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
news:web.4b7ad7af92f89cfdf71d62990@news.povray.org...
> "Jeremy \"UncleHoot\" Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecmo> wrote:
>> I pulled the trigger, and finally ordered my new computer components. I
>> did
>> quite a bit of research, but of course I'm still nervous about putting it
>> all together.
>>
>> I pretty much bought everything just like I said in my last post, but for
>> anyone interested, here are the specifics. Ordered from newegg.com.
>>
>>
>> 1 x G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual
>> Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail
>> 1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders -
>> OEM
>> 1 x MSI N250GTS Twin Frozr 1G GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI
>> Express
>> 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail
>> 1 x Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
>> 3.5"
>> Hard Drive -Bare Drive
>> 1 x ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
>> 1 x VANTEC TF12025 120mm Case Fan - Retail
>> 1 x LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid
>> Tower
>> Computer Case - Retail
>> 1 x Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V
>> version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
>> "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply - Retail
>> 1 x Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
>> Model BX80605I7860 - Retail
>> 1 x Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler - Retail
>
> aside from W7, pretty good-looking gear. Best of luck! :)
>
I'd be happy with XP 64-bit, but there doesn't seem to be such a thing...
But I can still run Linux in a vmware session, if I want.
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:54:01 +0100, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
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> Does anyone ever get even close to 3Gb/s on their hard drive? I have
> SATA drives and I get about 80MB (340Mb/s).
With an actual hard disk with actual platters you would be lucky to get a
sustained transfer rate of 100 MB/s (1 Gb/s). Burst rates can be much
higher, though.
SSD is another matter. The good ones can have sustained transfer rates
that push the limits of SATA/300.
My current system drive:
http://fe79.myftp.org/misc/HDTune_Benchmark_INTEL_SSDSA2M080G2GC.png
--
FE
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Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
> I've always figured that if something was already in the drive cache, it
> would probably transfer at (close to) 3Gb/s,
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Forget "focus follows mouse." When do
I get "focus follows gaze"?
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"Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote in message
news:op.### [at] toadbredbandsbolagetse...
> My current system drive:
> http://fe79.myftp.org/misc/HDTune_Benchmark_INTEL_SSDSA2M080G2GC.png
>
*drool*
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Darren New wrote:
> Does anyone ever get even close to 3Gb/s on their hard drive?
Unrelated to your question, but... At work all our servers used to use
Ultra320 SCSI drives. This bus has a max transfer rate of 320 MB/s.
Then again, when you have 6 drives on one ribbon cable, having the cable
support up to 320 MB/s suddenly makes a lot more sense...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> With an actual hard disk with actual platters you would be lucky to get
> a sustained transfer rate of 100 MB/s (1 Gb/s). Burst rates can be much
> higher, though.
>
> SSD is another matter. The good ones can have sustained transfer rates
> that push the limits of SATA/300.
I read some benchmarks from Tom's Hardware which suggested that
expensive magnetic drives can actually beat cheap SSD in some cases, in
terms of transfer rate and/or power consumption.
This utterly boggles my mind.
(Unless they're talking about *write* speed, which is the only real
weakness of SSD, AFAIK...)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:12:20 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
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> I read some benchmarks from Tom's Hardware which suggested that
> expensive magnetic drives can actually beat cheap SSD in some cases, in
> terms of transfer rate and/or power consumption.
>
> This utterly boggles my mind.
>
> (Unless they're talking about *write* speed, which is the only real
> weakness of SSD, AFAIK...)
Most cheap SSDs are crap. Some have been shown to have worst-case
access-times of up to a half-second. A good SSD will beat any magnetic
disk hands down.
--
FE
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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: New computer... Wish me luck
Date: 16 Feb 2010 22:02:54
Message: <4b7b5c5e@news.povray.org>
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"Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecmo> wrote in message
news:4b7ae46d@news.povray.org...
> Somewhere I saw a RAID array of (I think) 24 SDD's. While I don't recall
> what the transfer rate was, it was insanely fast. Maybe someone here
> posted it. Don't recall.
Here it is:
http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/03/09/video-samsung-ssd-ra.html
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Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> Most cheap SSDs are crap. Some have been shown to have worst-case
> access-times of up to a half-second. A good SSD will beat any magnetic
> disk hands down.
You would expect that an SSD, with absolutely no moving parts of any
kind, would easily beat any conceivably mechanical device. I have no
idea how the hell cheap SSDs can possibly manage to be slower.
Then again, even the term "cheap SSDs" is something of an oxymoron. I've
yet to see an SSD drive of any kind on sale for less than about £300.
And even then, at the £300 starting price, you're talking about maybe
4GB. You could just about fit your swap file on that, or maybe an entire
Windows partition, but not much else.
By comparison, for about £30 you can buy an 80GB HD...
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:4b7bb229$1@news.povray.org...
> Then again, even the term "cheap SSDs" is something of an oxymoron. I've
> yet to see an SSD drive of any kind on sale for less than about £300.
> And even then, at the £300 starting price, you're talking about maybe
> 4GB. You could just about fit your swap file on that, or maybe an entire
> Windows partition, but not much else.
>
> By comparison, for about £30 you can buy an 80GB HD...
Surely you jest (or you posted this 2 years ago).
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somebody wrote:
> Surely you jest (or you posted this 2 years ago).
I haven't checked prices recently. (For that matter, it's quite
difficult to find anybody who even sells SSD.) I imagine they've
probably gone down since I looked last year - but I don't know by how much.
The HD prices, OTOH, I checked just a month or two ago.
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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: New computer... Wish me luck
Date: 17 Feb 2010 09:02:46
Message: <4b7bf706@news.povray.org>
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> somebody wrote:
>
>> Surely you jest (or you posted this 2 years ago).
>
> I haven't checked prices recently. (For that matter, it's quite difficult
> to find anybody who even sells SSD.) I imagine they've probably gone down
> since I looked last year - but I don't know by how much.
>
> The HD prices, OTOH, I checked just a month or two ago.
Just saw 80GB SSD drive on NewEgg.com yesterday, for about $155(USD) after
mail-in rebate. Normally, it cost around $200. The average person can fit
their OS and most or all of their applications on something that size. Then
they can store videos and pictures on their $100 1TB hard drive.
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Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
> Just saw 80GB SSD drive on NewEgg.com yesterday, for about $155(USD) after
> mail-in rebate.
Now that sounds a little more reasonable...
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Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
> I'd be happy with XP 64-bit, but there doesn't seem to be such a thing...
It exists, but it's not recommended... Quite bad hardware support from what
I heard.
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>> I'd be happy with XP 64-bit, but there doesn't seem to be such a thing...
>
> It exists, but it's not recommended... Quite bad hardware support from what
> I heard.
Question: Does a 32-bit version of Vista or 7 exist?
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:47:31 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
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> Question: Does a 32-bit version of Vista or 7 exist?
As 5 seconds of googling would have told you: Yes.
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