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From: nemesis
Subject: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 11:23:21
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may I have a funny interlude between another set of bashing?

http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 11:38:55
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Great Scott!!

What the hell is a jigawhatt/endofunctor.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 11:47:29
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nemesis wrote:
> may I have a funny interlude between another set of bashing?

I must say that I don't really get the joke with FORTH, or with Smalltalk 
(assuming that's peewee herman or something?)  The others were quite amusing.

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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 12:08:54
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Darren New wrote:
> I must say that I don't really get the joke with FORTH, or with 
> Smalltalk (assuming that's peewee herman or something?)

Looks like Bill Nye (keeps with the rest of the chart generally pairing 
similar characters...in this case, SCIENCE! dudes)

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 12:20:17
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Darren New escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> may I have a funny interlude between another set of bashing?
> 
> I must say that I don't really get the joke with FORTH, 

It's the Unabomber, right?  A lone guy all alone fighting the tech 
world?  sounds kinda fitting... :P

> or with 
> Smalltalk (assuming that's peewee herman or something?)  The others were 
> quite amusing.

yeah, I don't get that either.  I liked the borg for Clojure (CL'ers are 
in deep hate for it right now) and Doc Brown the stereotypical mad 
scientist for Haskell. :D

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From: Captain Jack
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 12:28:04
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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
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> may I have a funny interlude between another set of bashing?
>
> http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html
>

I've worked with a few languages that are so obscure that the only 
appropriate image would be a black box (Coursewriter, anyone? No? Providex? 
Hmm? Ah well...)

They missed the language that I use most at work these days, though 
(VB.NET). From discussions I've had with other programmers who don't use it 
(and don't know what it is, because they can't get past the "B" word), I 
think one of these might be the preferred image:

http://vbonnaire.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/glinda.jpg
http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2007_12_munchkin2.jpg
http://www.adorablekidsdressup.com/Cloud%20Nine%20Images/Learning_Toys/Laptop.jpg

:-D

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 12:29:13
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Invisible escreveu:
> Great Scott!!

yeah, he was certainly an emacser. :)

> What the hell is a jigawhatt/endofunctor.

It's a measure of time travelling through monads.

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 12:31:48
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Captain Jack escreveu:
> They missed the language that I use most at work these days, though 
> (VB.NET). From discussions I've had with other programmers who don't use it 
> (and don't know what it is, because they can't get past the "B" word), I 
> think one of these might be the preferred image:
> 
> http://vbonnaire.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/glinda.jpg
> http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2007_12_munchkin2.jpg

hey, that's erlang already!

> http://www.adorablekidsdressup.com/Cloud%20Nine%20Images/Learning_Toys/Laptop.jpg

I vote on this one. :)

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 12:59:36
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nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html

  Reminds me of
http://www.netstorming.com.ar/soft/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/YRoqC.jpg

  (It's a pitty I can't find the full resolution version of that image.
It's much clearer.)

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 13:01:44
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Warp escreveu:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html
> 
>   Reminds me of
> http://www.netstorming.com.ar/soft/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/YRoqC.jpg
> 
>   (It's a pitty I can't find the full resolution version of that image.
> It's much clearer.)

LOL.  it's perfectly understandable.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 13:16:21
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nemesis wrote:
> It's the Unabomber, right?

Yeah.

>  A lone guy all alone fighting the tech world?  sounds kinda fitting... :P

Ah, I get it now. Very droll.

>> or with Smalltalk (assuming that's peewee herman or something?)  The 
>> others were quite amusing.
> 
> yeah, I don't get that either.  

If it's Bill Nye, then I guess the idea was Smalltalk was a big research 
project from PARC, so a scientific experiment in that sense?

> I liked the borg for Clojure (CL'ers are 
> in deep hate for it right now) 

Yep. Assimilation rules!

> and Doc Brown the stereotypical mad scientist for Haskell. :D

With the added fun of lazy evaluation and pure functional languages standign 
in for time travel.

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   I get "focus follows gaze"?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 13:17:31
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Captain Jack wrote:
> (Coursewriter, anyone? No? 

Yes!  Actually, I got hired over the summer one year to try to duplicate the 
functionality of an early version of that.

> http://vbonnaire.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/glinda.jpg
> http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2007_12_munchkin2.jpg
> http://www.adorablekidsdressup.com/Cloud%20Nine%20Images/Learning_Toys/Laptop.jpg

Yes, that would do. :-)

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   I get "focus follows gaze"?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 13:18:54
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nemesis wrote:
> hey, that's erlang already!

It's not that erlang is munchkins, but the lollipop guild in particular. 
I.e., the chorus-line of munchkins.

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   I get "focus follows gaze"?


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 13:22:05
Message: <4b5749cd$1@news.povray.org>
Le 20/01/2010 18:59, Warp nous fit lire :
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html
> 
>   Reminds me of
> http://www.netstorming.com.ar/soft/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/YRoqC.jpg
> 
>   (It's a pitty I can't find the full resolution version of that image.
> It's much clearer.)
> 
http://www.tijuana.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/windows-mac-linux.jpg
or
http://www.hiti.fr/dessins/ordinateurs.jpg

Both a bit different (caption in french), but bigger


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From: Captain Jack
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 13:50:23
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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4b573e04$1@news.povray.org...
>
> hey, that's erlang already!

Ah yes... Should have looked more closely. :-)

For some reason, I have trouble getting my head around Erlang. I use Wings 
3D a lot, and I've got a wishlist of about 20 or so features for it. From 
time to time, I think, "Well, just get the source code and write 'em!" Then, 
I get the language specs, look at the code, and my brain says, "No, go do 
something else. I'm not doing this right now." Ah well... someday, perhaps.

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From: Captain Jack
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 13:55:34
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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message 
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> Captain Jack wrote:
>> (Coursewriter, anyone? No?
>
> Yes!  Actually, I got hired over the summer one year to try to duplicate 
> the functionality of an early version of that.
>

That was actually my first programming experience, in high school. We had a 
terminal in our school (as did four other schools) hooked to an IBM 
something or other at the school admin office downtown. If you had your math 
homework done in time, you could get on the computer and run a program (the 
Baccarat game was popular). I was the sort of geek who always worked ahead, 
so I got on the computer a lot. One day, I complained that the game was 
"stupid" and "broke" (I was also a very obnoxious kid; I'm sure I've 
outgrown that...). The teacher went to the filing cabinet, dropped the 
Coursewriter manuals onto the desk in front of me, and said, "So... fix it." 
That was in about 1976, and I don't think I've gone a day without coding 
something or other since. :-D

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 14:42:08
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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 14:45:18
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>> What the hell is a jigawhatt/endofunctor.
> 
> It's a measure of time travelling through monads.

Monads may let you borrow the future, but you MUST NOT come face to face 
with your future self. Why, it could cause a temporal paradox that could 
UNRAVEL THE VERY FABRIC OF THE SPACE-TIME CONTINUUM!

Alternatively, maybe the damage would be limited to only locking up one 
CPU core until somebody sends a SIGKILL...

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 16:15:57
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Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:
> http://www.tijuana.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/windows-mac-linux.jpg

  That has been clearly changed to French. I wonder where the original one
at that full resolution is.

  But the full resolution version does convey the idea better.

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 17:10:33
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On 20-1-2010 17:23, nemesis wrote:
> may I have a funny interlude between another set of bashing?

sure

> http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html 

but this isn't it. At least I did not find it even remotely funny or 
interesting.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 17:29:53
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html 

> but this isn't it. At least I did not find it even remotely funny or 
> interesting.

  Why do I not find that surprising?

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 20 Jan 2010 18:33:32
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andrel wrote:
> but this isn't it. At least I did not find it even remotely funny or 
> interesting.

we clearly have opposite sense of humor.  Post some sad news that I may 
give a laugh.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 21 Jan 2010 15:44:00
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On 20-1-2010 23:29, Warp wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>> http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html 
> 
>> but this isn't it. At least I did not find it even remotely funny or 
>> interesting.
> 
>   Why do I not find that surprising?
> 
I don't know


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 21 Jan 2010 15:50:00
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> On 20-1-2010 23:29, Warp wrote:
> > andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> >>> http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html
> >
> >> but this isn't it. At least I did not find it even remotely funny or
> >> interesting.
> >
> >   Why do I not find that surprising?
> >
> I don't know

now that was funny! :D


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 21 Jan 2010 16:06:39
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On 21-1-2010 21:46, nemesis wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> On 20-1-2010 23:29, Warp wrote:
>>> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>>>> http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html
>>>> but this isn't it. At least I did not find it even remotely funny or
>>>> interesting.
>>>   Why do I not find that surprising?
>>>
>> I don't know
> 
> now that was funny! :D
> 
Huh why?


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: How Common Lisp developers see users of other languages
Date: 21 Jan 2010 16:25:00
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> On 21-1-2010 21:46, nemesis wrote:
> > andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> >> On 20-1-2010 23:29, Warp wrote:
> >>> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> >>>>>
http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html
> >>>> but this isn't it. At least I did not find it even remotely funny or
> >>>> interesting.
> >>>   Why do I not find that surprising?
> >>>
> >> I don't know
> >
> > now that was funny! :D
> >
> Huh why?

an abrupt punch-line for a rhetoric question.


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