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...of the IEEE.
...Chambers
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Chambers <Ben### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> ...of the IEEE.
whoa! congrats!
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> ...of the IEEE.
Well done! I'm still waiting for my managers to sign off my IMechE
application... need to remind them again.
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scott wrote:
>> ...of the IEEE.
>
> Well done! I'm still waiting for my managers to sign off my IMechE
> application... need to remind them again.
Pardon my ignorance, but... in what way is being a member of IEEE (or
similar) useful?
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>> Well done! I'm still waiting for my managers to sign off my IMechE
>> application... need to remind them again.
>
> Pardon my ignorance, but... in what way is being a member of IEEE (or
> similar) useful?
Depending on who you work for it might be absolutely necessary (eg in
structural engineering), help you get promoted, or do nothing at all. It
will also help you if you decide to apply for a new job. In the end it just
proves you are a proper engineer and have demonstrated your ability IRL.
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>> Pardon my ignorance, but... in what way is being a member of IEEE (or
>> similar) useful?
>
> Depending on who you work for it might be absolutely necessary (eg in
> structural engineering), help you get promoted, or do nothing at all.
> It will also help you if you decide to apply for a new job. In the end
> it just proves you are a proper engineer and have demonstrated your
> ability IRL.
OK, fair enough.
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"scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> >> Well done! I'm still waiting for my managers to sign off my IMechE
> >> application... need to remind them again.
> >
> > Pardon my ignorance, but... in what way is being a member of IEEE (or
> > similar) useful?
>
> Depending on who you work for it might be absolutely necessary (eg in
> structural engineering), help you get promoted, or do nothing at all. It
> will also help you if you decide to apply for a new job. In the end it just
> proves you are a proper engineer and have demonstrated your ability IRL.
Since I'm studying electronics, the main benefit to me is the bullet point on my
resume :)
(Maybe I can finally get out of banking, now... although with my luck, I'll end
up designing ATMs or something...)
....Chambers
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On 13-1-2010 4:24, Chambers wrote:
> ...of the IEEE.
>
> ...Chambers
Been an associate member for years. I probably qualify for full
membership, but never took the time to arrange that.
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Chambers wrote:
> ...of the IEEE.
>
> ...Chambers
Keep getting stuff from them. I don't have the money for it, nor the
time to run around to all the conventions, given that I never landed in
a job that *actually* involves computers, so... lol
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Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> ...of the IEEE.
>
> ...Chambers
Congratulations! That's a very big 'feather in the cap.'
Ken
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On 01/12/10 19:24, Chambers wrote:
> ...of the IEEE.
As a former member, I have to ask:
Why?!
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On 01/13/10 05:32, scott wrote:
> will also help you if you decide to apply for a new job. In the end it
> just proves you are a proper engineer and have demonstrated your ability
> IRL.
Not at all. It's easy to become a member. You don't really need to show
any proper qualifications.
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difference. - Steven Wright
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On 01/13/10 09:25, Chambers wrote:
> Since I'm studying electronics, the main benefit to me is the bullet point on my
> resume :)
Are you at a university? Undergrad? Grad?
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difference. - Steven Wright
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> Not at all. It's easy to become a member. You don't really need to show
> any proper qualifications.
Maybe it's different for the IEEE then? For the IMechE to become a member
you must have finished an accredited engineering course at an accredited
university (I have to send signed degree certificates with my application),
and then you must have had enough experience in industry to demonstrate your
Engineering skills in several areas (most people usually have enough after
about 5 years of working on relevant projects). If they don't feel you've
had enough experience (you have to send them a 2500 word report) then they
won't even ask you in for an interview.
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:00:28 +0100, scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
>> Not at all. It's easy to become a member. You don't really need to show
>> any proper qualifications.
>
> Maybe it's different for the IEEE then?
http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/qualifications/qualifications.html
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>> Maybe it's different for the IEEE then?
>
> http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/qualifications/qualifications.html
It seems what the IEEE call "member" and "senior member" map to "associate
member" and "member" respectively in IMechE terms. How confusing!
http://www.imeche.org/membership/Become+a+member/
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On 01/22/10 00:00, scott wrote:
>> Not at all. It's easy to become a member. You don't really need to
>> show any proper qualifications.
>
> Maybe it's different for the IEEE then? For the IMechE to become a
> member you must have finished an accredited engineering course at an
> accredited university (I have to send signed degree certificates with my
> application), and then you must have had enough experience in industry
> to demonstrate your Engineering skills in several areas (most people
> usually have enough after about 5 years of working on relevant
> projects). If they don't feel you've had enough experience (you have to
That sounds more like a licensing organization. In the US, they have
that - but it doesn't fall under the IEEE - and each state does its own
licensing. And very few electrical engineering jobs require a license.
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> That sounds more like a licensing organization. In the US, they have
> that - but it doesn't fall under the IEEE - and each state does its own
> licensing. And very few electrical engineering jobs require a license.
We have licensing too, but it's usually for technician-type jobs like wiring
houses and installing gas appliances, this has nothing to do with
Engineering or designing things though. For that we have Chartered
Engineer, which is awarded by becoming a "full member" of an institution
like the IEEE, IMechE etc. Some safety-critical jobs (like designing
bridges or buildings) absolutely require it (maybe there is even some legal
issues, IDK), other less safety-critical industries just look on it as a
demonstration that you are serious about your Engineering career. I have
yet to see any senior person in the Engineering department of a large
company that isn't a chartered engineer.
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On 01/24/10 23:56, scott wrote:
> like the IEEE, IMechE etc. Some safety-critical jobs (like designing
> bridges or buildings) absolutely require it (maybe there is even some
> legal issues, IDK), other less safety-critical industries just look on
Same here. If you're working as an electrical engineer in the power
industry, you'll likely need to get licensed. Or if you're the project
lead for some product design, you need to be licensed (or whoever signs
off on the design needs to be).
If you're a civil engineer, almost all jobs will require licensing.
However, over here, electrical engineers rarely work on anything related
to safety, so few of them have a license, and the company doesn't care
if they do.
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Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 01/12/10 19:24, Chambers wrote:
>> ...of the IEEE.
>
> As a former member, I have to ask:
>
> Why?!
>
>
My academic adviser said I'd get good information, and the student
employment office said I'd get better job offers.
Since a student membership is so affordable, I decided to go for it.
...Chambers
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Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 01/13/10 09:25, Chambers wrote:
>> Since I'm studying electronics, the main benefit to me is the bullet
>> point on my
>> resume :)
>
> Are you at a university? Undergrad? Grad?
>
Going for my bachelor's in Electronics Engineering. About one year left.
...Chambers
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On 2/3/2010 1:57 PM, Chambers wrote:
> Neeum Zawan wrote:
>> On 01/13/10 09:25, Chambers wrote:
>>> Since I'm studying electronics, the main benefit to me is the bullet
>>> point on my
>>> resume :)
>>
>> Are you at a university? Undergrad? Grad?
>>
>
> Going for my bachelor's in Electronics Engineering. About one year left.
>
> ....Chambers
I highly recommend taking the FE exam in the very near future - either
before graduation, or just after.
It is the first step in obtaining a Professional Engineer (PE) license.
While you may never get your PE, if you ever want it you will regret not
taking the FE while things were fresh in your mind.
Plus, a lot of states require 4 years AFTER you pass the FE to register
to become a PE.
You do not have much to lose, and it's another mark on your resume to be
an Engineer In Training (EIT).
I am willing to give more info, I just don't want to overload a post
like this.
Go ahead and ask if you have some questions - I'll do my best to answer.
web site for more info:
http://www.ncees.org/
Tom
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Tom Austin wrote:
> Go ahead and ask if you have some questions - I'll do my best to answer.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm going to give it a few months first, as
right now I'm a little overloaded between work and classes.
...Chambers
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On 02/03/10 10:57, Chambers wrote:
> Neeum Zawan wrote:
>> On 01/13/10 09:25, Chambers wrote:
>>> Since I'm studying electronics, the main benefit to me is the bullet
>>> point on my
>>> resume :)
>>
>> Are you at a university? Undergrad? Grad?
>>
>
> Going for my bachelor's in Electronics Engineering. About one year left.
I suppose the bullet point on the resume _may_ help.
I just tend to warn people that you can't be a student member for more
than 8 years - so they should sign up near the end of their undergrad,
so that it doesn't run out while in grad school (where it may prove
quite useful).
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On 02/03/10 19:21, Chambers wrote:
> Tom Austin wrote:
>> Go ahead and ask if you have some questions - I'll do my best to answer.
>
> Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm going to give it a few months first, as
> right now I'm a little overloaded between work and classes.
Yep. Can't hurt to do the FE (assuming you're in the US). I passed
without studying (but then, I'm smart<G>). My university had a 1 hour
per week seminar for those interested in taking it (different topic
covered each week).
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On 2/3/2010 10:54 PM, Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 02/03/10 19:21, Chambers wrote:
>> Tom Austin wrote:
>>> Go ahead and ask if you have some questions - I'll do my best to answer.
>>
>> Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm going to give it a few months first, as
>> right now I'm a little overloaded between work and classes.
>
> Yep. Can't hurt to do the FE (assuming you're in the US). I passed
> without studying (but then, I'm smart<G>). My university had a 1 hour
> per week seminar for those interested in taking it (different topic
> covered each week).
>
I fell into the boat of not taking it way back when.
I was out of school 12 years before taking it.
I had a LOT of studying to do, but I passed without trouble - tho I
don't know by how much.
I wish I had taken it way back, I would not have had to study so much.
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On 02/04/10 07:58, Tom Austin wrote:
> I was out of school 12 years before taking it.
>
> I had a LOT of studying to do, but I passed without trouble - tho I
> don't know by how much.
You may have passed without too much studying. Or perhaps some states
are more demanding. I'm sure I got lots of wrong answers. I had no idea
what a lot of the questions even meant.
My undergrad university (fairly low ranked) had a perfect pass rate for
many years. It just wasn't a tough exam.
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On 2/4/2010 9:40 PM, Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 02/04/10 07:58, Tom Austin wrote:
>> I was out of school 12 years before taking it.
>>
>> I had a LOT of studying to do, but I passed without trouble - tho I
>> don't know by how much.
>
> You may have passed without too much studying. Or perhaps some states
> are more demanding. I'm sure I got lots of wrong answers. I had no idea
> what a lot of the questions even meant.
>
> My undergrad university (fairly low ranked) had a perfect pass rate for
> many years. It just wasn't a tough exam.
>
>
My understanding is that the exam is basically the same in all states.
I believe that you typically have to only get just more than 50% of the
questions right to pass the exam - tho that can be a challenge.
I don't think the exam is designed to be really hard - it's designed to
weed out the people who just can't cut being an engineer.
If you look at the pass rates -
~75% of first time takers pass.
less than 30% of repeat takers pass.
Those who don't pass it the first time usually don't pass it on the
second or third times. Sure, you have those who had a bad day during
the exam - those are likely the ones in the %30 who eventually pass.
I just need to get my butt in gear to start studying for the PE exam
that I'm signed up for in 2 months.....
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