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Darren New escreveu:
> scott wrote:
>> Seems like a market hole for something priced around $100-$500 that is
>> halfway between Blender and 3D Studio (or whatever it's called now).
>
> There's Hash:Animation Master. They have good video tutorials online
> and do a good job with character animation and such. It was like $300
> last I looked. It was OK. Doesn't do as much as blender (such as, no
> post-processing, for example), but what it does I think it does better.
galleries look very bland:
http://www.hash.com/stills/
compare to:
http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/gallery/art-gallery/
The Hash guys are pros, they should know a good-looking gallery is a
great way to market a product. Or perhaps another case of limitations
actually forcing artists to go wild? :)
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nemesis wrote:
> galleries look very bland:
It would seem the character animation is easier, allowing you to do things
like "move this guy's feet backwards-walk-cycle, but keep his hand attached
to the doorknob as the door opens." You can make muscles bulge as he bends
his arm. You can make skin, or scales, or one other type of
bits-of-texture-moving that I don't remember, as the skeleton moves. You can
do stereo and cell-shaded output. The lip sync is almost trivial once you
get the lip shapes set up, which I *think* is easier than in blender if I
remember. (I haven't tried to do that in blender, so I'm not sure.) You can
take motions (walk cycles, etc) from one character and apply them to
another. The hair is much better and actually works. The physics for cloth
seemed easier but I didn't really persue it in blender much - maybe it's
comparable. I don't remember about rigid or fluid bodies.
All stuff that would be hard to show in a still gallery. It's *animation*
master, after all. :-)
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Darren New escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> galleries look very bland:
>
> It would seem the character animation is easier, allowing you to do
> things like "move this guy's feet backwards-walk-cycle, but keep his
> hand attached to the doorknob as the door opens." You can make muscles
> bulge as he bends his arm. You can make skin, or scales, or one other
> type of bits-of-texture-moving that I don't remember, as the skeleton
> moves. You can do stereo and cell-shaded output. The lip sync is almost
> trivial once you get the lip shapes set up, which I *think* is easier
> than in blender if I remember. (I haven't tried to do that in blender,
> so I'm not sure.) You can take motions (walk cycles, etc) from one
> character and apply them to another. The hair is much better and
> actually works. The physics for cloth seemed easier but I didn't really
> persue it in blender much - maybe it's comparable. I don't remember
> about rigid or fluid bodies.
>
> All stuff that would be hard to show in a still gallery. It's
> *animation* master, after all. :-)
True. I'm not into animations in any case.
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>> If proper documentation was provided with the software, it would be tied
>> to each version
>
> Oh, you wish!
Guess I'm just spoilt with my $20k CAD software where each new version comes
with 1GB of documentation and free training :-)
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scott wrote:
> Guess I'm just spoilt with my $20k CAD software where each new version
> comes with 1GB of documentation and free training :-)
As opposed to the software I get to use, where the compiler costs $10K but
they won't sell it to you until you pay another $10K for a 3-day class where
they read you the manual. They can't give you the manual because (and I kid
you not) they lost the original file. So all they have left is the copy the
teachers held onto, having sold all the rest.
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> scott wrote:
> > Guess I'm just spoilt with my $20k CAD software where each new version
> > comes with 1GB of documentation and free training :-)
>
> As opposed to the software I get to use, where the compiler costs $10K but
> they won't sell it to you until you pay another $10K for a 3-day class where
> they read you the manual. They can't give you the manual because (and I kid
> you not) they lost the original file. So all they have left is the copy the
> teachers held onto, having sold all the rest.
They should teach Gillette how to properly market products! :D
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Darren New schrieb:
> As opposed to the software I get to use, where the compiler costs $10K
> but they won't sell it to you until you pay another $10K for a 3-day
> class where they read you the manual. They can't give you the manual
> because (and I kid you not) they lost the original file. So all they
> have left is the copy the teachers held onto, having sold all the rest.
At $10K a license, you'd expect them to be able to have one of the
copies scanned, OCR'ed and proofread...
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clipka wrote:
> At $10K a license, you'd expect them to be able to have one of the
> copies scanned, OCR'ed and proofread...
Oh, they did that for the manual for the previous version of the machine.
They scanned it and packaged up the pile of GIFs into a PDF. Except some
pages were missing. And some were out of order. And some were crooked and
half cut off. And it was completely unsearchable because it was just GIFs.
And all the examples were originally black-on-grey and in the B&W scan were
nicely black on black. And it wasn't even the final manual, as there were
hand-written notes in the margin like "I couldn't get the table to come out,
so it's not in this draft."
It's not like you're going to go somewhere else for the manuals on how to
program custom hardware. :-)
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Darren New schrieb:
> clipka wrote:
>> At $10K a license, you'd expect them to be able to have one of the
>> copies scanned, OCR'ed and proofread...
>
> Oh, they did that for the manual for the previous version of the
> machine. They scanned it and packaged up the pile of GIFs into a PDF.
> Except some pages were missing. And some were out of order. And some
> were crooked and half cut off. And it was completely unsearchable
> because it was just GIFs. And all the examples were originally
> black-on-grey and in the B&W scan were nicely black on black. And it
> wasn't even the final manual, as there were hand-written notes in the
> margin like "I couldn't get the table to come out, so it's not in this
> draft."
So, to make a long story short, actually they did /not/: They did the
scanning, but skipped the OCR and proofreading steps...
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clipka wrote:
> So, to make a long story short, actually they did /not/: They did the
> scanning, but skipped the OCR and proofreading steps...
/me holds up "sarcasm" sign.
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