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"Stefan Viljoen" <pov### [at] polard com> wrote in message
news:4af907c6@news.povray.org...
> animation is completely indecipherable. But then, I've not really invested
> REAL time (years) to get to learn all of that. And some people (admittedly
> more dogged, hard-working and / or intelligent maybe?) can do AmAzInG
stuff
> with it.
I give you this, without comment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5atPfhJ1Zk
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"somebody" <x### [at] ycom> wrote:
> "Stefan Viljoen" <pov### [at] polardcom> wrote in message
> news:4af907c6@news.povray.org...
>
> > animation is completely indecipherable. But then, I've not really invested
> > REAL time (years) to get to learn all of that. And some people (admittedly
> > more dogged, hard-working and / or intelligent maybe?) can do AmAzInG
> stuff
> > with it.
>
> I give you this, without comment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5atPfhJ1Zk
Limitations seem to push inspiration forward more often than unrestricted
freedom. That feeling of "I'll show you I can do it" that often comes when we
do some povving...
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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: One of the problems with the Blender UI
Date: 11 Nov 2009 01:02:28
Message: <4afa5374@news.povray.org>
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nemesis wrote:
> Stefan Viljoen escreveu:
>> I find myself
>> regularly scaling when I want to pan or translating when I want to pan
>> when using Moray nowadays - all down to "wiring" done in my subconscious
>> by Blender use.
>
> I find myself often typing :wq to quit notepad.
>
Ooo! VI!
:)
--
Stefan Viljoen
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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: One of the problems with the Blender UI
Date: 11 Nov 2009 01:06:23
Message: <4afa545f@news.povray.org>
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nemesis wrote:
> Point is that enoughly motivated people can do wonders with Blender if
> they just sit to learn to use it rather than complain of perceived
> limitations. Isn't it true for everything we do, actually? C
> programming, anyone? short code Povray?...
You may be right... I've been playing with Pov for a few years, and each
time I see some IRTC stuff I just realize once again how much I still have
to learn and how far I still need to go. But it is true that the more time
you invest in something, the better you SHOULD get - and hey, for the price
(completely free) you surely can't complain about what you get in Blender.
If you'd paid real MONEY for it though, it can be considered a bit... crap,
I guess.
As I said, it works just fine for my for odd geometry, but not for much
else. I write PHP for a living, so maybe Pov's more "programmatic" feel is
more appealing than the completely visual orientation / bias of Blender.
--
Stefan Viljoen
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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: One of the problems with the Blender UI
Date: 11 Nov 2009 01:10:32
Message: <4afa5557@news.povray.org>
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somebody wrote:
> "Stefan Viljoen" <pov### [at] polardcom> wrote in message
> news:4af907c6@news.povray.org...
>
>> animation is completely indecipherable. But then, I've not really
>> invested REAL time (years) to get to learn all of that. And some people
>> (admittedly more dogged, hard-working and / or intelligent maybe?) can do
>> AmAzInG
> stuff
>> with it.
>
> I give you this, without comment:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5atPfhJ1Zk
! - Well I'll be hornswoggled...
--
Stefan Viljoen
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Stefan Viljoen schrieb:
> You may be right... I've been playing with Pov for a few years, and each
> time I see some IRTC stuff I just realize once again how much I still have
> to learn and how far I still need to go. But it is true that the more time
> you invest in something, the better you SHOULD get - and hey, for the price
> (completely free) you surely can't complain about what you get in Blender.
> If you'd paid real MONEY for it though, it can be considered a bit... crap,
> I guess.
It's not really free - you still have to invest something: Time!
Question is, whether that time is better invested into something else.
For me personally, this is definitely the case.
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> I disagree. It's probably much more documented than most other free tools
> out there, thanks to tons of community generated tutorials,
> video-tutorials, wiki entries, wiki learning trails etc.
The problems I came across were because the online tutorials I found were
for versions much earlier than the one I had. As such some buttons didn't
do what the tutorial expected, others were in a different place, and some
just plain didn't exist. If proper documentation was provided with the
software, it would be tied to each version and there wouldn't be this
problem.
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> It's not really free - you still have to invest something: Time!
Yes, that is the thing a lot of people forget to take account of.
Mind you, are there actually any decent 3D packages out there priced below
$5K? Seems like a market hole for something priced around $100-$500 that is
halfway between Blender and 3D Studio (or whatever it's called now).
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Stefan Viljoen escreveu:
> But it is true that the more time
> you invest in something, the better you SHOULD get
Well, that's exactly what I see happening to me with Blender. Quit
povvying for a while and you'll notice re-learning goes slow. I've been
out of Blender for quite some months, but it was just like mounting a
bike again.
--
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scott wrote:
> If proper documentation was provided
> with the software, it would be tied to each version
Oh, you wish!
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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