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From: Invisible
Subject: Disturbing the peace
Date: 4 Nov 2009 06:48:53
Message: <4af16a25$1@news.povray.org>
So I'm sitting at my desk reading VG Cats. And then I hear raised voices 
from somewhere in the offices. (The walls here are like paper.) And then 
I hear two female voices properly *shouting* at each other. And then I 
hear what sounds like an actual fist fight break out! O_O

I have no idea what the hell just went down, but it's all gone very 
quiet here. Damn... you expect this kind of thing to happen in the 
school playground, but not in an office.

Hmm. In retrospect, maybe I should have gone to investigate rather than 
sitting here telling teh interwebs about it? Suddenly I feel like I'm in 
a bash.org quote. :-/


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 4 Nov 2009 10:12:14
Message: <4af199ce$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible escreveu:
> So I'm sitting at my desk reading VG Cats. And then I hear raised voices 
> from somewhere in the offices. (The walls here are like paper.) And then 
> I hear two female voices properly *shouting* at each other. And then I 
> hear what sounds like an actual fist fight break out! O_O
> 
> I have no idea what the hell just went down, but it's all gone very 
> quiet here. Damn... you expect this kind of thing to happen in the 
> school playground, but not in an office.
> 
> Hmm. In retrospect, maybe I should have gone to investigate rather than 
> sitting here telling teh interwebs about it? Suddenly I feel like I'm in 
> a bash.org quote. :-/

now you got us curious!  Go out there and watch the fight, dude!

-- 
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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 4 Nov 2009 10:54:12
Message: <4af1a3a4$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/4/2009 5:48 AM, Invisible wrote:
> So I'm sitting at my desk reading VG Cats. And then I hear raised voices
> from somewhere in the offices. (The walls here are like paper.) And then
> I hear two female voices properly *shouting* at each other. And then I
> hear what sounds like an actual fist fight break out! O_O
>
> I have no idea what the hell just went down, but it's all gone very
> quiet here. Damn... you expect this kind of thing to happen in the
> school playground, but not in an office.

Hmm, interesting. Such things very rarely happen where I work.

> Hmm. In retrospect, maybe I should have gone to investigate rather than
> sitting here telling teh interwebs about it? Suddenly I feel like I'm in
> a bash.org quote. :-/

lol.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 4 Nov 2009 10:54:29
Message: <4af1a3b5$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> school playground, but not in an office.

It's easy to break up a fight between female coworkers. Wander out, watch 
for a minute, and then say "Hey, mud-wrestling! Cool!"

They'll stop pretty much instantly.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 4 Nov 2009 10:58:59
Message: <4af1a4c3$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> It's easy to break up a fight between female coworkers. Wander out, 
> watch for a minute, and then say "Hey, mud-wrestling! Cool!"
> 
> They'll stop pretty much instantly.

...because they'll then be kicking *your* arse instead. o_O


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 4 Nov 2009 10:59:35
Message: <4af1a4e7$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> Hmm, interesting. Such things very rarely happen where I work.

In all the years I've worked for this company [oh God!], this is the 
first time something like this has ever happened.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 4 Nov 2009 14:05:12
Message: <4af1d068$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:49:37 -0600, Mike Raiford wrote:

>> I have no idea what the hell just went down, but it's all gone very
>> quiet here. Damn... you expect this kind of thing to happen in the
>> school playground, but not in an office.
> 
> Hmm, interesting. Such things very rarely happen where I work.

About the most we get AFAIK is raised voices.  I had a few comments about 
my voice being raised last week in a phone conversation - most people had 
never heard me raise my voice for any reason and were quite surprised.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 4 Nov 2009 17:17:22
Message: <4af1fd72$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> never heard me raise my voice for any reason and were quite surprised.

I was working in one cubicle farm a long time ago, back when CP/M was the 
rage. Every time you got a compilation error in your code, the compiler 
would print the error and bomb up without cleaning up, leaving a bunch of 
*.SCR scratch files around.

One day, after this, on the "reference" machine, after much programming, I 
typed "DEL *.SRC" instead of "DEL *.SCR".  Since it took about 1.5 seconds 
instead of the usual quarter second, I looked again at the command line 
again and very quietly said "Oh, shit."  About five people stuck their heads 
up over the partitions asking what's wrong, since nobody ever cursed.

Fortunately, we had UNERASE already installed, and it took noticeably longer 
to delete all the files, so I knew right away I'd done it. After that, we 
changed the pascal source files to *.PAS :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 4 Nov 2009 17:20:29
Message: <4af1fe2d$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:17:21 -0800, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> never heard me raise my voice for any reason and were quite surprised.
> 
> I was working in one cubicle farm a long time ago, back when CP/M was
> the rage. Every time you got a compilation error in your code, the
> compiler would print the error and bomb up without cleaning up, leaving
> a bunch of *.SCR scratch files around.
> 
> One day, after this, on the "reference" machine, after much programming,
> I typed "DEL *.SRC" instead of "DEL *.SCR".  Since it took about 1.5
> seconds instead of the usual quarter second, I looked again at the
> command line again and very quietly said "Oh, shit."  About five people
> stuck their heads up over the partitions asking what's wrong, since
> nobody ever cursed.
> 
> Fortunately, we had UNERASE already installed, and it took noticeably
> longer to delete all the files, so I knew right away I'd done it. After
> that, we changed the pascal source files to *.PAS :-)

It's always a surprise to coworkers when they see a behaviour that 
they're unfamiliar with from an individual.  I used to work with a lady 
(who has since retired) who commented along with one other (whom I still 
work with) that they didn't think I had a mean bone in me.  They just 
haven't seen me thoroughly pissed off - or ridden in a car with me 
driving....I can be plenty nasty when the situation calls for it. :-)

Jim


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 5 Nov 2009 01:29:58
Message: <4af270e5@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> Fortunately, we had UNERASE already installed, and it took noticeably
> longer to delete all the files, so I knew right away I'd done it. After
> that, we changed the pascal source files to *.PAS :-)
 
Hehe that's like the typical UNIX typo-while-root rm * .scr instead of rm
*.scr...! :)
-- 
Stefan Viljoen


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 5 Nov 2009 01:33:30
Message: <4af271b9@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:

> Invisible escreveu:
>> So I'm sitting at my desk reading VG Cats. And then I hear raised voices
>> from somewhere in the offices. (The walls here are like paper.) And then
>> I hear two female voices properly *shouting* at each other. And then I
>> hear what sounds like an actual fist fight break out! O_O

I remember when still in the fire brigade two firemen having a full-on
fist-fight in the dispatch center. They practically dived right over top of
me to get at each other. I immediately hit a fire bell and fortunately the
shift officer showed up in a few seconds.

Best thing to do is stay out of it, and prepare to duck under your desk if
it gets physical. Try not to witness it, otherwise you might have to make a
statement (which I had to do, and didn't like, since the disciplinary
hearing after the above incident hinged on my testimony - and I had good
relations with both guys fighting!)
-- 
Stefan Viljoen


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From: Captain Jack
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 5 Nov 2009 09:06:14
Message: <4af2dbd6$1@news.povray.org>
"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message 
news:4af1fd72$1@news.povray.org...
> One day, after this, on the "reference" machine, after much programming, I 
> typed "DEL *.SRC" instead of "DEL *.SCR".  Since it took about 1.5 seconds 
> instead of the usual quarter second, I looked again at the command line 
> again and very quietly said "Oh, shit."  About five people stuck their 
> heads up over the partitions asking what's wrong, since nobody ever 
> cursed.

Long ago, one of my semi-regular duties was to install a fresh copy of a 
demo program onto a machine, this being the easiest way to make sure that 
the demo was always the same for the sales guys. It was installed off of a 
5-1/4 inch floppy, and all I needed to to do was type "tar -xv -f/dev/fd1" 
to extract the files, after changing to the right directory.

Ever notice that the "c" key is right next to the "x"? And, of course, the 
floppy wasn't write-protected. So, I typed "tar -cv" and erased the floppy 
(well, trashed the tar header, which amounted to the same thing for me at 
the time). Our only copy of the demo, of course. And, this was less than an 
hour before the prospect was to arrive.

We cracked open a live copy and activated it (much simpler process, in those 
days, fortunately), then ordered a new demo disk.

Funny thing was, I don't think the salesman even noticed the difference.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 5 Nov 2009 10:55:16
Message: <4af2f564$1@news.povray.org>
Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> Hehe that's like the typical UNIX typo-while-root rm * .scr instead of rm
> *.scr...! :)

You don't even have to be root for that to screw you. You just have to own 
all your source code files. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 5 Nov 2009 10:56:52
Message: <4af2f5c4@news.povray.org>
Captain Jack wrote:
> Ever notice that the "c" key is right next to the "x"? 

Somewhere in the intervening years, some programmer got hit by this badly 
enough that tar will now say "cowardly refusing to create an empty archive" 
in that situation. :-) Now that I figured out what it means, it's easy to 
find the typo that caused it.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 5 Nov 2009 11:36:15
Message: <4af2feff$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New schrieb:

> "cowardly refusing to create an empty archive"

Heh, I like that! :-)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 5 Nov 2009 11:47:52
Message: <4af301b8@news.povray.org>
>> "cowardly refusing to create an empty archive"
> 
> Heh, I like that! :-)

I prefer "the printer is on fire" and "penguin on the SCSI bus"...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 5 Nov 2009 12:00:39
Message: <4af304b7$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>> "cowardly refusing to create an empty archive"
>>
>> Heh, I like that! :-)
> 
> I prefer "the printer is on fire" and "penguin on the SCSI bus"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_on_fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_completed_successfully
etc.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 5 Nov 2009 13:34:13
Message: <4af31aa5$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_on_fire

Been there, done that.  Came in at 11PM to turn things off.  Came in 11AM 
the next morning while the operators are cleaning up.  "Darren, did you see 
this?"   "Indeed. I was the one that turned it off."   "And you didn't come 
in early to help clean it up?"  "Quite intentionally, I assure you."

I had no desire to clean up 700 pages worth of the middle of the "0" 
character spewed around the room in paper and ribbon.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 6 Nov 2009 01:23:24
Message: <4af3c0db@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> Stefan Viljoen wrote:
>> Hehe that's like the typical UNIX typo-while-root rm * .scr instead of rm
>> *.scr...! :)
> 
> You don't even have to be root for that to screw you. You just have to own
> all your source code files. :-)
> 

That's true... I always -check- and then -recheck- - ever experienced the
fun rm dirname * -rf can cause vs. rm dirname* -rf if you want to delete
similarly named dirs? NOT good.

-- 
Stefan Viljoen


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Disturbing the peace
Date: 19 Nov 2009 15:04:06
Message: <4b05a4b6@news.povray.org>
Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> That's true... I always -check- and then -recheck- - ever experienced the
> fun rm dirname * -rf can cause vs. rm dirname* -rf if you want to delete
> similarly named dirs? NOT good.

A friend once deleted the kernel image on his Mac by typing "rm foo *" 
instead of "rm foo*". As root. In the root directory. And thank god he 
didn't use -r.

People trying to help him on IRC (taking the kernel from their machines, for 
example) all asked "what the heck were you doing with a root command line on 
a *Mac* anyway?"


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