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"Customers who bought Enya also bought:
- Enigma
- Clannad
- Dido
- Madonna
- Dire Straits
- U2
- Michael Jackson
- Fleetwood Mac
..."
The first couple of entries make sense. But... Dire Straits?! WTF? From
there on it just makes less and less sense. o_O
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Invisible schrieb:
> "Customers who bought Enya also bought:
>
> - Enigma
> - Clannad
> - Dido
> - Madonna
> - Dire Straits
> - U2
> - Michael Jackson
> - Fleetwood Mac
> ..."
>
>
> The first couple of entries make sense. But... Dire Straits?! WTF? From
> there on it just makes less and less sense. o_O
Why?
I don't know Enya (or, well, maybe I just don't know the name), but if
bears /any/ resemblance to music from Clannad, then I know at least one
Dire Straits album (actually the only Dire Straits album I know ;-))
they might enjoy as well, and Fleetwood Mac fits pretty well, too.
I'm just a bit puzzled about seeing Madonna and Michael Jackson named in
the same list as Clannad, Dire Straits and Fleetwood Mac, so maybe I'm
terribly wrong about Enya; but then I couldn't agree with your statement
about the first couple of entries.
Also note that Clannad != Clannad, Fleetwood Mac != Fleetwood Mac (both
changed their music significantly over time), and maybe also Dire
Straits != Dire Straits (for instance the Dire Straits album I own
features a Knopfler solo live performance CD, which I find much better -
and a much better fit to Clannad and Fleetwood Mac besides - than the
Dire Straits performances of the same pieces).
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I own CD's from Enya, Clannad and other Celtic / Irish / Scottish stuff.
Even had a tape from Andy Steward. Loreena McKennitt (Lady of Shallot,
Portmore) is nice, too.
Nonetheless, when the mood takes me, I like to listen to Madonna, Dire
Straits and (long ago) from Michael Jackson, too. Visage, Pet Shop Boys, the
whole 80's stuff. Boney M (very long ago), Barclay James Harvest - all these
brings fond memories. And when I still had a comparatively fast car:
Steppenwolf and Genesis rock at 140 mph ;-)
Nice to hear that other people have the same mixed taste as I have...
However, I abhor "classical" music - I really do. I find it lame and tame.
Yes, I admit: ain't got no class, ain't got no style...
"Invisible" <voi### [at] dev null> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4aeec55d$1@news.povray.org...
> "Customers who bought Enya also bought:
>
> - Enigma
> - Clannad
> - Dido
> - Madonna
> - Dire Straits
> - U2
> - Michael Jackson
> - Fleetwood Mac
> ..."
>
>
> The first couple of entries make sense. But... Dire Straits?! WTF? From
> there on it just makes less and less sense. o_O
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clipka <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote:
> I don't know Enya (or, well, maybe I just don't know the name), but if
> bears /any/ resemblance to music from Clannad
Vocally, a lot. She was with Clannad in their early days - she's a Brennan.
I don't think there's anything strange about Dire Straits being in the list
either. Clannad and Straits are both significant presences on my shelves!
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> "Customers who bought Enya also bought:
> - Enigma
> - Clannad
> - Dido
> - Madonna
> - Dire Straits
> - U2
> - Michael Jackson
> - Fleetwood Mac
> ..."
> The first couple of entries make sense. But... Dire Straits?! WTF? From
> there on it just makes less and less sense. o_O
You mean someone who buys Enya doesn't buy Dire Straits? Why not?
--
- Warp
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Bill Pragnell schrieb:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote:
>> I don't know Enya (or, well, maybe I just don't know the name), but if
>> bears /any/ resemblance to music from Clannad
>
> Vocally, a lot. She was with Clannad in their early days - she's a Brennan.
Ah! then maybe I've even heard something of her. And if not, then I
probably should.
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On 2-11-2009 20:19, clipka wrote:
> Bill Pragnell schrieb:
>> clipka <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote:
>>> I don't know Enya (or, well, maybe I just don't know the name), but if
>>> bears /any/ resemblance to music from Clannad
>>
>> Vocally, a lot. She was with Clannad in their early days - she's a
>> Brennan.
>
> Ah! then maybe I've even heard something of her. And if not, then I
> probably should.
I think 'Orinoco flow' may be the most well known song by her. Why don't
you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
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TC wrote:
> I own CD's from Enya, Clannad and other Celtic / Irish / Scottish stuff.
> Even had a tape from Andy Steward.
> However, I abhor "classical" music - I really do. I find it lame and tame.
> Yes, I admit: ain't got no class, ain't got no style...
>
Figures :P
Oh! Campbeltown Loch, Ah wish ye were whisky!
Campbeltown Loch, Och Aye!
Campbeltown Loch, I wish ye were whisky!
Ah wid drink ye dry.
-
Best Regards,
Stephen
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andrel wrote:
> I think 'Orinoco flow' may be the most well known song by her. Why don't
> you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
...or if you're watched the end credits to LotR...
--
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Warp wrote:
> You mean someone who buys Enya doesn't buy Dire Straits? Why not?
Well, presumably people who aren't me have, you know, "normal" tastes in
music. As in, they like one particular style and only listen to that.
Also, while I'm sure probably a lot of people who buy X also buy
unrelated Y, there would have to be a hell of a lot of people buying
*the same* unrelated Y for the statistics to pan out like this... which
would be a really big coincidence.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On 2-11-2009 21:35, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>
>> You mean someone who buys Enya doesn't buy Dire Straits? Why not?
>
> Well, presumably people who aren't me have, you know, "normal" tastes in
> music. As in, they like one particular style and only listen to that.
>
> Also, while I'm sure probably a lot of people who buy X also buy
> unrelated Y, there would have to be a hell of a lot of people buying
> *the same* unrelated Y for the statistics to pan out like this... which
> would be a really big coincidence.
>
I think the statistics are that popular artists way outsell even
slightly less popular artist. So irrespective of what moderately
successful contemporary artist you pick, madonna and michael jackson
will be bought by the same people.
Pick a relatively unknown group and even the group that half the members
were in before that won't show up in the list.
If you pick an artisy from the 60s or 70s, people would have also bought
the beatles and presley.
Both Enya and Dire Straights were refreshing in their days, so I am not
surprised by the coincidence.
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>> Also, while I'm sure probably a lot of people who buy X also buy
>> unrelated Y, there would have to be a hell of a lot of people buying
>> *the same* unrelated Y for the statistics to pan out like this...
>> which would be a really big coincidence.
>>
> I think the statistics are that popular artists way outsell even
> slightly less popular artist. So irrespective of what moderately
> successful contemporary artist you pick, madonna and michael jackson
> will be bought by the same people.
Ah, the joy of statistics... so many different ways to analyse the same
numbers. Heh. Well, it seems like a plausible answer anyway.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 schrieb:
> andrel wrote:
>
>> I think 'Orinoco flow' may be the most well known song by her. Why
>> don't you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
>
> ...or if you're watched the end credits to LotR...
Then for certain I /have/ heard something from her...
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:41:16 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> The first couple of entries make sense. But... Dire Straits?! WTF? From
> there on it just makes less and less sense. o_O
If it's based on what people actually bought, there's no statistical
analysis really, just what people bought.
But Enya used to be a part of Clannad, so people who like Enya tend to
like Clannad - from there I could go into music by James Horner and from
there to pretty much any genre I wanted to.
It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the same
with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
Jim
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:48:54 +0100, andrel wrote:
> I think 'Orinoco flow' may be the most well known song by her.
I prefer Book of Days myself, but I'd love to hear the original version
(not the English version, which I do quite like). Haven't been able to
find it anywhere.
Jim
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:35:48 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Well, presumably people who aren't me have, you know, "normal" tastes in
> music. As in, they like one particular style and only listen to that.
I find that most people have a broad range of styles they like.
If you looked at my music collection from 20 years ago, you'd probably
never expect to find Queen or The Eagles in it, yet I've got both. Most
of what was in my collection at the time was classical composers.
The list of music I listen to at the gym is a mix of Bear McCreary and
Queen. The tempos just work right for me.
Jim
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andrel wrote:
> Why don't you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
Why do you say don't tell anybody?
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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Jim Henderson wrote:
>
> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the same
> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>
> Jim
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of composer
Henry Purcell.
Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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The song "May it be" (LOTR, part 1) is sung by Enya. If you own the standard
edition DVD LOTR 1 the clip is included. Unfortunately the clip is missing
on the special extended DVD.
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clipka wrote:
> Then for certain I /have/ heard something from her...
ergo
oceanus, maritimus,
opacare, matutinus,
septentrio, meridies,
occidens et orientis,
ergo
radius solis
et umbra,
ignis, aqua,
caelum, luna,
terra, stella,
hierns et aestas,
autumnus et
tempus vernum...
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clipka wrote:
> Then for certain I /have/ heard something from her...
I once listened to a song of hers eight or ten times in a row trying to
figure out the words. Then I gave up and dug out the liner notes, which were
written in a handwriting so crabbed it was illegible. So then I looked it
up online, to discover it's in Gaelic.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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Darren New wrote:
> I once listened to a song of hers eight or ten times in a row trying to
> figure out the words.
I can see where this is going...
> Then I gave up and dug out the liner notes, which
> were written in a handwriting so crabbed it was illegible.
Haha, yes, she likes to do that.
> So then I looked it up online, to discover it's in Gaelic.
...yeah, I had a feeling this is where we'd end up. ;-)
She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:31:00 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> So then I
> looked it up online, to discover it's in Gaelic.
Yeah, that's one thing I like about her music. :-)
Jim
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
English, Gaelic, and Latin IIRC. That's pretty much it.
Jim
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>
>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the same
>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>
>> Jim
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>
> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of composer
> Henry Purcell.
>
> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the same
>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>
>>> Jim
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>
>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of composer
>> Henry Purcell.
>>
>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>
> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>
> Jim
Gone! And never called me mother!
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:56:57 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> Gone! And never called me mother!
Such a shame!
Jim
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On 3-11-2009 18:58, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>
>> She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
>
> English, Gaelic, and Latin IIRC. That's pretty much it.
Neither of those is random. Gaelic spoken at home, English at school,
and Latin in church. (at least I think that would be rather likely).
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On 2-11-2009 23:56, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> Why don't you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
>
> Why do you say don't tell anybody?
>
Because it is rather likely that you will find an illegal upload?
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:04:53 +0100, andrel wrote:
> On 3-11-2009 18:58, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
>>
>> English, Gaelic, and Latin IIRC. That's pretty much it.
>
> Neither of those is random. Gaelic spoken at home, English at school,
> and Latin in church. (at least I think that would be rather likely).
Yeah, I wouldn't have categorized them as "random" either.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>
>> She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
>
> English, Gaelic, and Latin IIRC. That's pretty much it.
Also Japanese, Quenya, Spanish, Loxian, Welsh.
And she's awful purty--even being 48. (Must admit to always having had
a bit of a crush on her *blush*)
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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On 3-11-2009 19:56, Stephen wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the same
>>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>>
>>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of composer
>>> Henry Purcell.
>>>
>>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>>
>> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>>
>> Jim
>
> Gone! And never called me mother!
>
How should I parse that?
1) never called me 'mother'!
2) never called me. Mother!
3) never called my mother!
And what does it mean?
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On 3-11-2009 21:23, Tim Cook wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
>>
>> English, Gaelic, and Latin IIRC. That's pretty much it.
>
> Also Japanese,
Didn't know that. Ok I must admit I listened more to her sisters.
> Quenya,
what? of to google... Ah, didn't know that. Hmm, no google preferences
settings for this, while we do have Klingon? Someone does not have
enough free time.
> Spanish,
Din't know that.
> Loxian,
What? otg... Ok I think that I couldn't have known that one
> Welsh.
why not
> And she's awful purty
otg... Ok, learned a new word today, metathesis.
> --even being 48.
hey, I am 47 and still... nevermind.
> (Must admit to always having had a bit of a crush on her *blush*)
Do we need a comma between her and *blush*? What does the language
police thinks about that?
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:56:57 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>
> Such a shame!
>
> Jim
:(
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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On 2-11-2009 20:48, andrel wrote:
> On 2-11-2009 20:19, clipka wrote:
>> Bill Pragnell schrieb:
>>> clipka <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote:
>>>> I don't know Enya (or, well, maybe I just don't know the name), but if
>>>> bears /any/ resemblance to music from Clannad
>>>
>>> Vocally, a lot. She was with Clannad in their early days - she's a
>>> Brennan.
>>
>> Ah! then maybe I've even heard something of her. And if not, then I
>> probably should.
>
> I think 'Orinoco flow' may be the most well known song by her. Why don't
> you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
A very probable legal version is at her own site
http://www.enya.com/videos.php?vid=m
Sounds a bit different than the one I have on CD, though on relistening
that version the difference is less that I initially though. Perhaps
that is partly because I also sometimes listen to the Celtic Woman version?
Reminds me of something weird (at least to me). I recently rebought
Kate & Anna McGarrigle I had it before and played it a lot but it was
left with my ex girlfriend (almost 16 years ago). When listening I
recognized the songs but had the feeling almost all arrangements were
different. Normally I remember almost every note and every scratch.
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andrel wrote:
> On 3-11-2009 19:56, Stephen wrote:
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the same
>>>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>>>
>>>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of composer
>>>> Henry Purcell.
>>>>
>>>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>>>
>>> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>
> How should I parse that?
>
> 1) never called me 'mother'!
> 2) never called me. Mother!
> 3) never called my mother!
>
> And what does it mean?
The lady’s son died before he knew that she was his mother. (Alcoholic
poising IIRC) So number 1 is correct.
It is from the play of “East Lynne” a sensation novel by Mrs Henry Wood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Lynne
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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On 3-11-2009 22:02, Stephen wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> On 3-11-2009 19:56, Stephen wrote:
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the same
>>>>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of
>>>>> composer
>>>>> Henry Purcell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>>>>
>>>> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>>
>> How should I parse that?
>>
>> 1) never called me 'mother'!
>> 2) never called me. Mother!
>> 3) never called my mother!
>>
>> And what does it mean?
>
> The lady’s son died before he knew that she was his mother. (Alcoholic
> poising IIRC) So number 1 is correct.
> It is from the play of “East Lynne” a sensation novel by Mrs Henry Wood.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Lynne
Today I had a recurring discussion about the use of English in science.
Someone had submitted a manuscript for correction to a native speaker. A
number of the suggested corrections were good English but incorrect
scientific/international English. Which reminded me that sometimes at
conferences I have trouble understanding some Brits that wrongly assume
that English is the language of the conference and that therefore can
use any expression that they know. This would be a typical example.
BTW how did Ellen become Henri?
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andrel wrote:
> On 2-11-2009 23:56, Darren New wrote:
>> andrel wrote:
>>> Why don't you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
>>
>> Why do you say don't tell anybody?
>>
> Because it is rather likely that you will find an illegal upload?
Most of the rock videos out there are actually legal. YouTube makes a lot of
deals.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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> Most of the rock videos out there are actually legal. YouTube makes a
> lot of deals.
Wait - YouTube has *legal* stuff on it as well now?? O_O
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On 3-11-2009 22:23, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> On 2-11-2009 23:56, Darren New wrote:
>>> andrel wrote:
>>>> Why don't you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
>>>
>>> Why do you say don't tell anybody?
>>>
>> Because it is rather likely that you will find an illegal upload?
>
> Most of the rock videos out there are actually legal. YouTube makes a
> lot of deals.
>
Sure, but how can you know?
None of the first few hits seem to come from Enya herself or a publisher.
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andrel wrote:
> hey, I am 47 and still... nevermind.
LOL! Nice one...
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On 3-11-2009 22:30, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Most of the rock videos out there are actually legal. YouTube makes a
>> lot of deals.
>
> Wait - YouTube has *legal* stuff on it as well now?? O_O
>
It was always possible to upload legal stuff. E.g.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btVGCqpIoyk&fmt=22 is probably legal as
it was made entirely be the author (ok we have only his word for it).
But your reaction sort of supports my point, thanks.
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>> Wait - YouTube has *legal* stuff on it as well now?? O_O
>>
> It was always possible to upload legal stuff.
Well, yes, I'm sure all those videos of "hey I filmed this dude totally
trip over a banana skin with my camera phone" are probably legal. (I.e.,
the videos that no sane person would watch.)
> But your reaction sort of supports my point, thanks.
Heh. The videos of "hey I filmed this concert I went to" are presumably
*not* legal... And then there's the fact that just about every movie
ever made can be found on YouTube somewhere. And then we get to Why is
the Rum Gone? and it's ilk...
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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andrel wrote:
> Sure, but how can you know?
You can't. That's what sucks about the Bourne convention.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:03:09 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> Sure, but how can you know?
>
> You can't. That's what sucks about the Bourne convention.
<insert witty comment about Jason Bourne here>
Jim
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:23:02 -0500, Tim Cook wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
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>>> She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
>>
>> English, Gaelic, and Latin IIRC. That's pretty much it.
>
> Also Japanese, Quenya, Spanish, Loxian, Welsh.
Japanese? Quenya I knew, since I own that disc (and the films), but I
didn't know about Spanish and Loxian (I don't even know where that is
from - off to Google it - ah, and I have that album too). But where does
she use Japanese, Spanish, and Welsh?
> And she's awful purty--even being 48. (Must admit to always having had
> a bit of a crush on her *blush*)
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:54:52 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:56:57 +0000, Stephen wrote:
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>>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>
>> Such a shame!
>>
>> Jim
>
> :(
I'd try to make it up to ya, but I don't think it'd be appreciated. ;-)
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:03:09 -0800, Darren New wrote:
>
>> andrel wrote:
>>> Sure, but how can you know?
>> You can't. That's what sucks about the Bourne convention.
>
> <insert witty comment about Jason Bourne here>
Yeah. Berne. I knew it looked wrong.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:54:52 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:56:57 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>> Such a shame!
>>>
>>> Jim
>> :(
>
> I'd try to make it up to ya, but I don't think it'd be appreciated. ;-)
>
:P
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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andrel wrote:
> On 3-11-2009 22:02, Stephen wrote:
>> andrel wrote:
>>> On 3-11-2009 19:56, Stephen wrote:
>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of
>>>>>> composer
>>>>>> Henry Purcell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>>>
>>> How should I parse that?
>>>
>>> 1) never called me 'mother'!
>>> 2) never called me. Mother!
>>> 3) never called my mother!
>>>
>>> And what does it mean?
>>
>> The lady’s son died before he knew that she was his mother. (Alcoholic
>> poising IIRC) So number 1 is correct.
>> It is from the play of “East Lynne” a sensation novel by Mrs Henry Wood.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Lynne
>
> Today I had a recurring discussion about the use of English in science.
> Someone had submitted a manuscript for correction to a native speaker. A
> number of the suggested corrections were good English but incorrect
> scientific/international English. Which reminded me that sometimes at
> conferences I have trouble understanding some Brits that wrongly assume
> that English is the language of the conference and that therefore can
> use any expression that they know. This would be a typical example.
>
You have mentioned this one or two times before ;)
Because you are from the Lowlands every English speaker expects you to
be fully fluent in several languages. (A complement BTW) But I’m sure
that we won’t go to war over it (again :-P)
> BTW how did Ellen become Henri?
When Miss Ellen Price married Mr. Henry Wood she became known as Mrs.
Henry Wood. This was the accepted practice in England in the early 19th
century (and even later).
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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