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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 6 Oct 2009 00:14:24
Message: <4acac420@news.povray.org>
Inspired by Mike Raiford's keen eye in spotting the povray image used 
for an image on cracked.com, I thought it would be fun to make a quiz 
out of the idea.

I've taken 20 different povray images and clipped out a 64x64 pixel 
square from each.  The challenge is to identify which image each square 
came form.  Most of the images are reasonably well known, but I threw a 
few tougher ones in there just to be a jerk.

Since you could pretty easily solve most of these just by browsing 
though the hall of fame or the irtc, try to solve them first without 
looking anything up.  If you can't remember the name of the artist or 
image a good description of what the full image looks like works too.

If I left out your favorite image or you think that 64x64 makes the 
challenge way too tough please feel free to post another such quiz -- 
particularly since I'd like to try my hand at solving one which I didn't 
design :)


Bonus Questions:

A) What special about image #16

B) Images #8 and #10 both have a pov-newsgroup related backstory behind 
them.  What are these backstories?


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached] (** SPOILER **)
Date: 6 Oct 2009 02:15:53
Message: <4acae099$1@news.povray.org>
Let's see...


#11 appears to be from the scene that became POV-Ray 3.6's splash screen.

#3 is that shot showing your RGB pixels in close-up (including the 
people living there... SIMs, maybe?)

#4 must be "the wet bird" or whatever it's called... Giles Tran IIRC.

#16 is what became POV-Ray 3.7's splash screen.


 From here, things start getting difficult, but not impossible yet:


#10 is the infamous AWSOME (sic!) ROLEX (good choice, jerk :-)). 
Background story in short: Epic FAIL of some guy trying to impress the 
POV-Ray community.

#7 is called "the preacher" IIRC - a seagull perched on a giant stone 
egg, surrounded by more seagulls.

#20 is probably that "Pearl Harbor" shot.


Unfortunately, that's about as far as I get without serious guessing.


#15 reminds me of a cellular-automaton-generated render, but I'm a bit 
in doubt.

#8 reminds me of a shot from the recent IRTC test round, showing a 
deteriorated RSOP as well as a much larger, greebled sphere; that shot 
in turn reminded me of an ingenious "RSOP WIP" shot with scaffolding and 
stuff posted in the p.b.i some while ago.

#5 reminds me of a shot by (I guess) Giles Tran, set in a futuristic 
world with some robot police drones flying around, and some presumably 
homeless drunkard trying to hide from them.

#6 reminds me of "Innocent Shadow", though I'm not sure whether the 
angle of the bricks is really fitting.

#9 is probably from a shot titled something like "<WhatsHerName>'s 
World" - a shot strongly remniscient of Antoine de Sainte-Exupery's 'Le 
Petit Prince'. If you know the shot and Exupery's sketches for his book, 
you know what I mean...


As for #1, #2, #12, #13, #14, #17, #18 and #19, I'm quite lost...


There. Now I'm going to check the Hall of Fame...


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached] (** SPOILER **)
Date: 6 Oct 2009 03:48:05
Message: <4acaf635$1@news.povray.org>
clipka schrieb:
> 
> As for #1, #2, #12, #13, #14, #17, #18 and #19, I'm quite lost...
> 
> 
> There. Now I'm going to check the Hall of Fame...

Found #13 (man, I didn't even know this detail was in there!)

Found that I was right with #15 (somewhat to my own surprise).

Identified #1.

Found I was right with #6 after all (didn't remember the shot to be 
/that/ slanted).

Found that I'm probably wrong about #11 after all, and definitely wrong 
about #8.


Found #14 (after a long search).

#2, #12, #17, #18 and #19 (and #8 and #11) remain unaccounted for - I 
don't have much hope of ever being able to dig them up...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 6 Oct 2009 04:21:02
Message: <4acafdee$1@news.povray.org>
Kevin Wampler wrote:

> I've taken 20 different povray images and clipped out a 64x64 pixel 
> square from each.  The challenge is to identify which image each square 
> came form.  Most of the images are reasonably well known, but I threw a 
> few tougher ones in there just to be a jerk.


Hmm. #16 is obviously that underwater one (whatever the hell it's 
called). #14 looks like it might be that render of the London Natural 
History Museum that somebody did a while back. And it looks plausible 
that #17 is the tea and biscuits scene that renders every time you 
instill WinPOV. (Something keeps telling me #1 is the benchmark scene, 
but I don't think it is.)

Hmm, OK. So, comprehensive failure then?


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 6 Oct 2009 04:25:10
Message: <4acafee6@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Hmm, OK. So, comprehensive failure then?

Ooo, wait a sec - #15 looks like that crazy violent circuit board thing.
And #11 might conceivably by the splash screen from WinPOV.


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached] (** SPOILER **)
Date: 6 Oct 2009 12:51:35
Message: <4acb7597$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> #2, #12, #17, #18 and #19 (and #8 and #11) remain unaccounted for - I 
> don't have much hope of ever being able to dig them up...

I think you got #11 right after all.  All in all really impressive, 
particularly considering how accurate your guesses were.  Except for #19 
I think all the ones remaining are less well-known, so you can rest easy 
that you've basically solved the main part of it.  I'll post an answer 
key in a few days for the curious.


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 6 Oct 2009 12:56:55
Message: <4acb76d7$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Hmm. #16 is obviously that underwater one (whatever the hell it's 
> called). #14 looks like it might be that render of the London Natural 
> History Museum that somebody did a while back. And it looks plausible 
> that #17 is the tea and biscuits scene that renders every time you 
> instill WinPOV. (Something keeps telling me #1 is the benchmark scene, 
> but I don't think it is.)
> 
> Hmm, OK. So, comprehensive failure then?


I don't think #1 has ever been a benchmark scene and you're off on #17, 
but I think the rest of your guesses are correct (including #15 and 
#11).  Nice catch on #14 as well, I was a bit worried nobody would 
recognize that one.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 6 Oct 2009 13:41:35
Message: <4acb814f@news.povray.org>
#3 is that image where there are hexagonal cells, each having some
theme inside. I don't remember the round it was related to. I remember
the image in general, but not details.

  #4 rather obvious. Shouldn't even be necessary to say. Bird, rainy day...
If someone doesn't know this image he should forever hide in shame.

  #5 futuristic robotic police patrolling streets, with a bum sleeping
in the alley. One of the most famous POV-Ray artists of the past, sadly
went to greener pastures (and rival renderers) many years ago. Damned if
I remember his name now, shame on me.

  #6 shadow of a girl jumping the rope. I think it was an allusion to an
atomic bomb blast leaving a permanent shadow on the wall.

  #10 awsome rolex?

  #11 winner of the "water" round. Has a prominent shadow artifact in one
of the rocks in the lower edge of the image.

  #16 winner of the POV-Ray compo. I think it was named "The Guardian" or
something like that.

  #18 was this the one with the dinosaurs playing instruments? Or am I
completely confusing things here?

  #20 Pearl Harbor?

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 6 Oct 2009 13:56:19
Message: <4acb84c3@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   #4 rather obvious. Shouldn't even be necessary to say. Bird, rainy day...
> If someone doesn't know this image he should forever hide in shame.

I was surprised not to find the Wet Bird anywhere here. And then I 
realised that IT IS HERE. O_O

The cropped image doesn't even remotely resemble how I remember that 
image; it's far too light (I remember the image as rainy and almost 
black), and the lamp post is the wrong shape (I was certain it's the 
other way around too), and the background looks like interior wallpaper 
rather than a building. It looked for all the world like a bird sitting 
on the side of a birdcage in somebody's front room.

I fail. :'{

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 6 Oct 2009 14:25:44
Message: <4acb8ba8$1@news.povray.org>
I somehow thought you'd know a lot of these, and I was not dissapointed. 
  Also, nice catch on #18 -- that's an old image.  The artist you're 
thinking of is H.E. Day btw.  I wonder what he's up to these days, he 
was quite talented.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached] (** SPOILER **)
Date: 6 Oct 2009 16:12:00
Message: <4acba490@news.povray.org>
Kevin Wampler schrieb:
> clipka wrote:
>> #2, #12, #17, #18 and #19 (and #8 and #11) remain unaccounted for - I 
>> don't have much hope of ever being able to dig them up...
> 
> I think you got #11 right after all.

Maybe - possibly at a different resolution; the image was modified a bit 
for the splash screen (and it keeps closing after a few seconds, making 
it hard to take a close look :-P) so I find it really hard to tell.

 > Except for #19
> I think all the ones remaining are less well-known,

Wait - what? So #19 is supposed to be better known than the others? Duh 
- it really doesn't ring a bell in me. (Not these 4096 pixels at least.)


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached] (** SPOILER **)
Date: 6 Oct 2009 16:35:30
Message: <4acbaa12$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> Kevin Wampler schrieb:
>> clipka wrote:
>>> #2, #12, #17, #18 and #19 (and #8 and #11) remain unaccounted for - I 
>>> don't have much hope of ever being able to dig them up...
>>
>> I think you got #11 right after all.
> 
> Maybe - possibly at a different resolution; the image was modified a bit 
> for the splash screen (and it keeps closing after a few seconds, making 
> it hard to take a close look :-P) so I find it really hard to tell.

I think your "different resolution" hypothesis is entirely correct as 
the image as also in the IRTC.


>  > Except for #19
>> I think all the ones remaining are less well-known,
> 
> Wait - what? So #19 is supposed to be better known than the others? Duh 
> - it really doesn't ring a bell in me. (Not these 4096 pixels at least.)

I'd say that #19 is better known than the other ones you didn't get, and 
I've certainly seen it used in other contexts before.  Probably not more 
well known than most of the ones you correctly guessed though.


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 05:10:13
Message: <4acc5af5$1@news.povray.org>
Ok, here are the answers!  In some cases I've linked to a higher 
resolution image than the 64x64 block was extracted from.





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#1 - Christoph Hormann - The Eye
http://hof.povray.org/images/the_eye.jpg

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#2 - Nathan G B O'Brien - Arch
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Oct-95/arch.jpg

Entrant in the October 1995 IRTC (theme: architecture) and an old 
favorite of mine from back in the day.  This is clearly one of the 
tricky ones, probably too tricky in retrospect.

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#3 - Jean-Marie Haerens and Fabien Mosen - Roger, Gary, and Bob
http://hof.povray.org/images/3b.jpg

July-August 1998 IRTC Winner (theme: Elements)

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#4 - Gilles Tran - The Wet Bird
http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/mouille.jpg

March-April 2001 IRTC Winner, in addition to possibly being the 
best-known povray image ever.

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#5 - H.E. Day - Drunk Patrol
http://hof.povray.org/images/8b.jpg

Came in second in the March-April 2000 IRTC (theme: The City)

H.E. Day had the bad luck of submitting this image to the same round of 
the IRTC that Gilles Tran's Wet Bird image was submitted to. 
Competition was rather stiff that round.  Another nice image of his was 
edged out *again* by Gilles Tran in the March-April 2001 round.  In fact 
#20 on this list (not by Gilles Tran this time) had previously knocked 
him into second place in the November-December 1998 round.  I don't 
think he ever won the IRTC, which is quite a shame since he has some of 
the most memorable povray images out there -- just bad timing on which 
rounds to compete in I suppose.

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#6 - Mark Slone - Innocent Shadow
http://hof.povray.org/images/ishadow.jpg

November-December 2002 IRTC winner (theme: Frozen Moment)

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#7 - Mick Hazelgrove - The Preacher
http://hof.povray.org/images/4b.jpg

January-February 2001 IRTC winner (theme: Worship)

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#8 - Gilles Tran - The Construction Workers
http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/creation.jpg

I couldn't find a place to cut the snipped that made this anything other 
than nearly impossible, but I included it anyway since I knew a 
backstory for it and, hey, you can't have them all be easy.

Backstory: My memory is a bit hazy here, but I *think* this is the 
correct story behind this image.  Back in the day 'Uncle' Ken Tyler used 
to respond to posts so quickly at seemingly any time of day or night 
that people eventually began to figure that he had to be some sort of 
cyborg of full-on AI to achieve it.  After his birthday an initial draft 
of this image was made to symbolize the construction of the Ken Tyler AI.

I believe we knew when his birthday was because we actually kept a list 
of the birthdays of the most active Pov users -- pretty cool!

EDIT:  Looks like my memory served me well, here's the original thread:
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C371E0BC9.2F8F1927@inapg.inra.fr%3E/

By pure coincidence this happened just one day before Nicholas 
DePetrillo posted the infamous "AWSOME ROLEX" image to the same 
newsgroup (see #10).

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#9 - Douglas Eichenberg - Victoria's World
http://hof.povray.org/images/victoria.jpg

Tied for 4th in POVCOMP 2004, one of my personal favorites.

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#10 - Nicholas DePetrillo (self attributed) - AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/attachment/%3C371e9151.0@news.povray.org%3E/rolexfr.jpg

Backstory:  Ok, I lied a bit, only 19 of those images were made with 
povray.  Nicholas DePetrillo posted this image which he claimed to have 
made in a rather irritating post consisting of far too many mispelled 
words and capital letters.  This was a few days after he posted some 
renderings of an ocean which he seemed very reluctant to give details on 
the creation of other than that they involved a lot of very complicated 
math.

It didn't take too long for people to find proof that he'd stolen both 
of these from other websites and neither was made with povray.  Ever 
since the phrase "AWSOME ROLEX" has come to mean an image which wasn't 
actually created with povray, despite the claims of the author.

You can read the original thread here:
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C371e9151.0@news.povray.org%3E/

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#11 - Jaime Vives Piqueres - Always Running, Never the Same
http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-10-31/running.jpg

September-October 1998 IRTC Winner.  It's also served as the povray 
splash screen.

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#12 - Gilles Tran - The Big Fight
http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_1993.jpg

A very early Gilles Tran piece from 1993.  He also did a remake of this 
picture in 2001:

http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_2001.jpg

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#13 - Norbert Kern - Boreal
http://hof.povray.org/images/Boreal_big.jpg

The bird in the picture is subtle, but IIRC it's the only use of red in 
the whole image.

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#14 - Sean Day - Natural History Museum
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2004-12-31/nhm.jpg

November-December 2004 IRTC technical merit honorable mention (theme: 
Museum)

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#15 - Samuel Benge - Techno Garb
http://hof.povray.org/images/800x600/c_a_large.jpg

Modeled using a cellular automaton.

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#16 - Johnny Yip - The Last Guardian
http://hof.povray.org/images/guardian.jpg

Special award: Won first place in POVCOMP 2004, and Johnny Yip for a 
very sweet workstation worth $10,000 for it.

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#17 - Gilles Tran - The Cubicle Workers
http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/comptoir.jpg

One of my old favorite Gilles Tran pieces, from 1997.

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#18 - Jamie McCarter - Night Club Gallimimus' Warming Up
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Feb-95/jmwarmup.jpg

Winner of the February 1995 IRTC (theme: music)

I love this quote from the associated text file:

"After creating the entire scene I gave it to PoV to render.  Then, 
after 5 minutes of parsing, I found my 16 megs of ram wasn't enough.  So 
I created a 20 meg swap file, and ended up running out of memory again. 
  So I upped it to 50 megs.  I then ran out of symbols.  So I upped 
those.  I then ran out of #declares.  Unfortunately, PoV v2.2 doesn't 
allow this to be increased, so I had to manually optimize all 3 megs of 
the data file, carefully rearranging the data to remove the declares! 
(programmers: hint here for a nifty little utility.  Write me.)  Once I 
had worked out the declare problem I gave the data to PoV and sat back 
for more than 5 days while it rendered. (Yes, I do have bounding boxes 
intelligently placed)"

Makes me appreciate how comparatively awesomely powerful computers are 
these days.

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#19 - Rob Strickland - Chain Reaction
http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1997-06-30/chainrea.jpg

May-June 1997 IRTC winner (theme: Physics & Math)

I believe he had to hack motion blur into Povray just for this image.

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#20 - N.B. and Glenn McCarter - First Strike at Pearl Harbor
http://hof.povray.org/images/7b.jpg

November-December 1998 IRTC winner (theme: First Encounter)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 05:25:58
Message: <4acc5ea6$1@news.povray.org>
> #1 - Christoph Hormann - The Eye
> http://hof.povray.org/images/the_eye.jpg

Never seen it.

> #2 - Nathan G B O'Brien - Arch
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Oct-95/arch.jpg

Never seen it.

> #3 - Jean-Marie Haerens and Fabien Mosen - Roger, Gary, and Bob
> http://hof.povray.org/images/3b.jpg

Never seen it.

> #4 - Gilles Tran - The Wet Bird
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/mouille.jpg
> 
> March-April 2001 IRTC Winner, in addition to possibly being the 
> best-known povray image ever.

Failed miserably to recognise it, despite expecting it to be present 
somewhere. (As I say, the colours looked wrong, and several other 
details seemed incorrect.)

> #5 - H.E. Day - Drunk Patrol
> http://hof.povray.org/images/8b.jpg

I remember this one well; just not the particular detail you cropped out.

> #6 - Mark Slone - Innocent Shadow
> http://hof.povray.org/images/ishadow.jpg

Never seen it.

> #7 - Mick Hazelgrove - The Preacher
> http://hof.povray.org/images/4b.jpg

Only seen it briefly - not well enough to really remember.

> #8 - Gilles Tran - The Construction Workers
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/creation.jpg

Interesting how cropping it makes it look like the worker is facing the 
other way...

> #9 - Douglas Eichenberg - Victoria's World
> http://hof.povray.org/images/victoria.jpg

Never seen this - which is surprising, because it's really damned good.

> #10 - Nicholas DePetrillo (self attributed) - AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
>
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/attachment/%3C371e9151.0@news.povray.org%3E/rolexfr.jpg


Never seen it.

> Ever 
> since the phrase "AWSOME ROLEX" has come to mean an image which wasn't 
> actually created with povray, despite the claims of the author.

I never knew that...

> #11 - Jaime Vives Piqueres - Always Running, Never the Same
> http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-10-31/running.jpg
> 
> September-October 1998 IRTC Winner.  It's also served as the povray 
> splash screen.

I recognised this. :-D

> #12 - Gilles Tran - The Big Fight
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_1993.jpg

Never seen it.

> #13 - Norbert Kern - Boreal
> http://hof.povray.org/images/Boreal_big.jpg

Now I'm puzzled. The (very grainy) image clearly contains red, yet I 
can't find any red anywhere in the source image.

> #14 - Sean Day - Natural History Museum
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2004-12-31/nhm.jpg

I was right!

> #15 - Samuel Benge - Techno Garb
> http://hof.povray.org/images/800x600/c_a_large.jpg

And again. :-D

> #16 - Johnny Yip - The Last Guardian
> http://hof.povray.org/images/guardian.jpg

And that's a hatrick.

> #17 - Gilles Tran - The Cubicle Workers
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/comptoir.jpg

Mmm, I'd forgotten about this one...

> #18 - Jamie McCarter - Night Club Gallimimus' Warming Up
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Feb-95/jmwarmup.jpg

Never seen it.

> #19 - Rob Strickland - Chain Reaction
> http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1997-06-30/chainrea.jpg

Never seen it.

> #20 - N.B. and Glenn McCarter - First Strike at Pearl Harbor
> http://hof.povray.org/images/7b.jpg

I had a feeling this might be it. I should have written that down...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 11:27:19
Message: <4accb357$1@news.povray.org>
Reminds me of "Eyeball Benders" from Games magazine.

http://home.comcast.net/~rawieland4/5MinuteBof/EyeballBenders/eyeballbender.html


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 11:31:28
Message: <4accb450$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Reminds me of "Eyeball Benders" from Games magazine.
> 
> http://home.comcast.net/~rawieland4/5MinuteBof/EyeballBenders/eyeballbender.html 

I clearly lack the necessary domain knowledge for this one.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 11:46:23
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Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Reminds me of "Eyeball Benders" from Games magazine.
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~rawieland4/5MinuteBof/EyeballBenders/eyeballbender.html 
> 
> 
> I clearly lack the necessary domain knowledge for this one.

That particular set seemed to all be games.

My favorites were the extreme close-up of the little red triangle at the top 
of the dial on a master lock (like you looked at every day of school and 
still didn't recognise) and the cut-out of the bike spokes that showed no 
hub or rim, but had that distinctive criss-cross pattern.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 12:03:50
Message: <4accbbe6$1@news.povray.org>
>> I clearly lack the necessary domain knowledge for this one.
> 
> That particular set seemed to all be games.

Indeed. Which I don't play.

> My favorites were the extreme close-up of the little red triangle at the 
> top of the dial on a master lock (like you looked at every day of school 
> and still didn't recognise)

...???

> and the cut-out of the bike spokes that 
> showed no hub or rim, but had that distinctive criss-cross pattern.

I'd probably get that one.

Would you recognise the *sound* those spokes make when plucked? Of 
course, today I understand that the sniffness of the rods causes them to 
resist being bend, which adds a 2nd-order dx/dt term to the transfer 
function of the system, which introduces dispersion, which changes the 
resonant frequencies of the system such that they are no longer 
harmonically related... but when I was 9, I just used to like twanging 
the spokes.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 12:06:50
Message: <4accbc9a$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>> My favorites were the extreme close-up of the little red triangle at 
>> the top of the dial on a master lock (like you looked at every day of 
>> school and still didn't recognise)
> 
> ...???

In the USA, kids get lockers to store their books and such in between 
classes. They locked with a Master lock.

Oh wow.

http://www.masterlock.com/school/

An entire page just about locks for school lockers.

> I'd probably get that one.

It's surprisingly difficult to look at it. You *know* you've seen it, and 
you have to think "where is that *from*."

> Would you recognise the *sound* those spokes make when plucked? 

No.

> course, today I understand that the sniffness of the rods causes them to 
> resist being bend, which adds a 2nd-order dx/dt term to the transfer 
> function of the system, which introduces dispersion, which changes the 
> resonant frequencies of the system such that they are no longer 
> harmonically related... but when I was 9, I just used to like twanging 
> the spokes.

And what makes you think you're stupid again?

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 13:11:33
Message: <4acccbc5@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> > #1 - Christoph Hormann - The Eye
> > http://hof.povray.org/images/the_eye.jpg

> Never seen it.

  You have never browsed through the Hall of Fame?-o

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 14:21:01
Message: <4accdc0d@news.povray.org>
>>> #1 - Christoph Hormann - The Eye
>>> http://hof.povray.org/images/the_eye.jpg
> 
>> Never seen it.
> 
>   You have never browsed through the Hall of Fame?-o

Yep.

I distinctly recall there being a scene somewhat like this, but by the 
ocean. But I don't remember this one.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 14:22:36
Message: <4accdc6c$1@news.povray.org>
> In the USA, kids get lockers to store their books and such in between 
> classes. They locked with a Master lock.

Oh, right. I didn't know that. Suddenly several hundred movies scenes 
make significantly more sense...

>> course, today I understand that the sniffness of the rods causes them 
>> to resist being bend, which adds a 2nd-order dx/dt term to the 
>> transfer function of the system, which introduces dispersion, which 
>> changes the resonant frequencies of the system such that they are no 
>> longer harmonically related... but when I was 9, I just used to like 
>> twanging the spokes.
> 
> And what makes you think you're stupid again?

...I have a wet passenger seat?

It seems I fall into the same trap as DJ. Very good with abstract 
mathematics. Hopeless with The Real World. :-(

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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 14:40:17
Message: <4acce091$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Reminds me of "Eyeball Benders" from Games magazine.
> 
> http://home.comcast.net/~rawieland4/5MinuteBof/EyeballBenders/eyeballbender.html 
> 

Ohh yeah, I'd forgotten about those.  Man, I used to love the puzzles in 
games magazine (probably still would if I still read it).


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 16:22:57
Message: <4accf8a0@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >>> #1 - Christoph Hormann - The Eye
> >>> http://hof.povray.org/images/the_eye.jpg
> > 
> >> Never seen it.
> > 
> >   You have never browsed through the Hall of Fame?-o

> Yep.

  Then what are you waiting for?

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 16:49:15
Message: <4accfecb$1@news.povray.org>
>>>   You have never browsed through the Hall of Fame?-o
> 
>> Yep.
> 
>   Then what are you waiting for?

Ah, the wonderful ambiguities of the English language...

I actually meant "yes I have". ;-)

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 16:52:06
Message: <4accff76@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >>>   You have never browsed through the Hall of Fame?-o
> > 
> >> Yep.
> > 
> >   Then what are you waiting for?

> Ah, the wonderful ambiguities of the English language...

> I actually meant "yes I have". ;-)

  I suppose "never seen it" also means something else, then?

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 16:58:46
Message: <4acd0106$1@news.povray.org>
>>>>>   You have never browsed through the Hall of Fame?-o
>>>> Yep.
>>>   Then what are you waiting for?
> 
>> Ah, the wonderful ambiguities of the English language...
> 
>> I actually meant "yes I have". ;-)
> 
>   I suppose "never seen it" also means something else, then?

Like I say, I definitely recall seeing a similar landscape by the sea. I 
just don't remember this particular image. Maybe it's one I didn't click 
on to view full size. Maybe it was added after the last time I visited 
the HoF. Who knows...

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 8 Oct 2009 11:44:51
Message: <4ace08f3$1@news.povray.org>
Kevin Wampler schrieb:

> #2 - Nathan G B O'Brien - Arch
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Oct-95/arch.jpg
> 
> Entrant in the October 1995 IRTC (theme: architecture) and an old 
> favorite of mine from back in the day.  This is clearly one of the 
> tricky ones, probably too tricky in retrospect.

Duh - I've never even /seen/ this one before... and the IRTC archive (as 
  available through the current web page) only goes back to 1996 :-(

> #8 - Gilles Tran - The Construction Workers
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/creation.jpg

Hm... never seen this one either. Nice one.

> #9 - Douglas Eichenberg - Victoria's World
> http://hof.povray.org/images/victoria.jpg
> 
> Tied for 4th in POVCOMP 2004, one of my personal favorites.

Indeed, a very beautiful shot.

> #10 - Nicholas DePetrillo (self attributed) - AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
>
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/attachment/%3C371e9151.0@news.povray.org%3E/rolexfr.jpg

> 
> Backstory:  Ok, I lied a bit, only 19 of those images were made with 
> povray. 

Well, was it really ultimately /proven/ that he didn't do it with 
POV-Ray? :-P


> #12 - Gilles Tran - The Big Fight
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_1993.jpg
> 
> A very early Gilles Tran piece from 1993.  He also did a remake of this 
> picture in 2001:
> 
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_2001.jpg

Not one of his best works. The remake is much better /technically/, but 
as for artistic and concept... Meh.


> #17 - Gilles Tran - The Cubicle Workers
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/comptoir.jpg
> 
> One of my old favorite Gilles Tran pieces, from 1997.

Ah! Seen that one. Not so easy to identify though.


> #18 - Jamie McCarter - Night Club Gallimimus' Warming Up
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Feb-95/jmwarmup.jpg
> 
> Winner of the February 1995 IRTC (theme: music)

Never seen it. Again, not available via the IRTC web page.

> #19 - Rob Strickland - Chain Reaction
> http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1997-06-30/chainrea.jpg
> 
> May-June 1997 IRTC winner (theme: Physics & Math)
> 
> I believe he had to hack motion blur into Povray just for this image.

Nice one! The idea dates back at least to 1986 though: After the 
Chernobyl disaster, the famous German children/science TV show "Sendung 
mit der Maus" ("The programme with the mouse") aired a full episode 
dedicated to nucelar power, with the mouse-trap-and-ping-pong-balls 
chain reaction demonstration being the highlight of the show.

I always believed the experiment was invented by the show's team, and I 
/think/ I recall that they happened to have recorded & aired it even 
earlier, though I may be mistaken on either or both. In any event, for 
me it was the most impressive "Maus" episode ever, and ranks very high 
among my childhood memories (although if they first aired it after 
Chernobyl it must actually have been early teenage memories already).

Another POV-Ray shot I've never seen before. I'm sure I'd have 
remembered & recognized /that/ one.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 8 Oct 2009 11:59:53
Message: <4ace0c79$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New schrieb:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Darren New wrote:
>>> Reminds me of "Eyeball Benders" from Games magazine.
>>>
>>> http://home.comcast.net/~rawieland4/5MinuteBof/EyeballBenders/eyeballbender.html 
>>
>>
>>
>> I clearly lack the necessary domain knowledge for this one.
> 
> That particular set seemed to all be games.

Hm...

...
"4 tines of a fork"
"4 (empty) gallon beer jugs"
"Cap holder end of a dry erase marker"
...
"Plastic forks in a box"
...
"Two eggs in carton"
...
"Green olive on a toothpick"
...
"Coin slot in nut dispenser"
...
"Plastic cups stacked up"
"A box of #2 pencils"
"Dental floss dispenser"
...

Doesn't seem too games-related to me ;-)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 8 Oct 2009 13:11:45
Message: <4ace1d51$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> Doesn't seem too games-related to me ;-)

OK, well, about half are games. The ones that weren't I had a harder time 
identifying, and I didn't peek.

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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 8 Oct 2009 15:52:08
Message: <4ace42e8$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> Kevin Wampler schrieb:
> 
>> #2 - Nathan G B O'Brien - Arch
>> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Oct-95/arch.jpg
>>
>> Entrant in the October 1995 IRTC (theme: architecture) and an old 
>> favorite of mine from back in the day.  This is clearly one of the 
>> tricky ones, probably too tricky in retrospect.
> 
> Duh - I've never even /seen/ this one before... and the IRTC archive (as 
>  available through the current web page) only goes back to 1996 :-(

I thought I'd mix it up a bit and throw in a few from the old IRTC page: 
http://www.povray.org/competition/ .  I figured this might be a nice bit 
of nostalgia for some of the old time users.


>> #10 - Nicholas DePetrillo (self attributed) - AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
>>
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/attachment/%3C371e9151.0@news.povray.org%3E/rolexfr.jpg

>>
>> Backstory:  Ok, I lied a bit, only 19 of those images were made with 
>> povray. 
> 
> Well, was it really ultimately /proven/ that he didn't do it with 
> POV-Ray? :-P

I suppose he could have made in it POV then another website could have 
stolen it from him shortly after he posted it :)


> 
>> #12 - Gilles Tran - The Big Fight
>> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_1993.jpg
>>
>> A very early Gilles Tran piece from 1993.  He also did a remake of 
>> this picture in 2001:
>>
>> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_2001.jpg
> 
> Not one of his best works. The remake is much better /technically/, but 
> as for artistic and concept... Meh.

I sort of agree, but I included it because I thought it would be 
interesting to have a very early work by Gilles Tran on there, and the 
existence of a remake is what led me to this one.


>> #19 - Rob Strickland - Chain Reaction
>> http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1997-06-30/chainrea.jpg
>>
>> May-June 1997 IRTC winner (theme: Physics & Math)
>>
>> I believe he had to hack motion blur into Povray just for this image.
> 
> Nice one! The idea dates back at least to 1986 though: After the 
> Chernobyl disaster, the famous German children/science TV show "Sendung 
> mit der Maus" ("The programme with the mouse") aired a full episode 
> dedicated to nucelar power, with the mouse-trap-and-ping-pong-balls 
> chain reaction demonstration being the highlight of the show.

I did not know that bit of history.  That's rather interesting.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 8 Oct 2009 16:55:52
Message: <4ace51d8@news.povray.org>
Kevin Wampler schrieb:

>>> #19 - Rob Strickland - Chain Reaction
>>> http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1997-06-30/chainrea.jpg
>>>
>>> May-June 1997 IRTC winner (theme: Physics & Math)
>>>
>>> I believe he had to hack motion blur into Povray just for this image.
>>
>> Nice one! The idea dates back at least to 1986 though: After the 
>> Chernobyl disaster, the famous German children/science TV show 
>> "Sendung mit der Maus" ("The programme with the mouse") aired a full 
>> episode dedicated to nucelar power, with the 
>> mouse-trap-and-ping-pong-balls chain reaction demonstration being the 
>> highlight of the show.
> 
> I did not know that bit of history.  That's rather interesting.

As I said, I can't say for sure whether they actually thought up that 
demonstration, or got the idea from someone else. All I can say is that 
they aired it shortly after the Chernobyl disaster (essentially to 
explain to children what their parents were presently so worried about, 
and why they wouldn't let them play outside), so that obviously must 
have been in 1986.


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