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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Bang
Date: 2 Oct 2009 14:11:47
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http://tinyurl.com/6cf39p

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 2 Oct 2009 14:33:36
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:11:47 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/6cf39p

Neat


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 05:01:57
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Jim Henderson wrote:

> Neat

Pretty much, yeah. ;-)

(I was reading a blog entry about a guy who wrote a Haskell program to 
do a physical simulation of lightning. But hey, he only drew ball and 
stick models. :-P Not nearly as cool...)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 12:50:20
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On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:01:56 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> Neat
> 
> Pretty much, yeah. ;-)
> 
> (I was reading a blog entry about a guy who wrote a Haskell program to
> do a physical simulation of lightning. But hey, he only drew ball and
> stick models. :-P Not nearly as cool...)

I'm just thinking about the time it took to set the camera up and wait 
for the right moment.  Lightning photos are always interesting to look 
at, but high-speed video is something else....

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 14:31:31
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Jim Henderson wrote:

> I'm just thinking about the time it took to set the camera up and wait 
> for the right moment.  Lightning photos are always interesting to look 
> at, but high-speed video is something else....

You know what might be cool?

TIME-LAPSE PHOTOGRAPHY.

I have no idea how you'd do this automatically, but hypothetically all 
you need is an ordinary still camera and the patience of a POV-Ray user...

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 14:40:25
Message: <4aca3d99$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/5/2009 1:31 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> I'm just thinking about the time it took to set the camera up and wait
>> for the right moment. Lightning photos are always interesting to look
>> at, but high-speed video is something else....
>
> You know what might be cool?
>
> TIME-LAPSE PHOTOGRAPHY.
>
> I have no idea how you'd do this automatically, but hypothetically all
> you need is an ordinary still camera and the patience of a POV-Ray user...
>

I've done that before.... I'll have to dig up the stills and rebuild the 
movie one of these days. I watered a plant, then filmed it over a period 
of 24 hours. It's amazing how much a plant moves during the day.

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 14:46:06
Message: <4aca3eee@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:31:34 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> I'm just thinking about the time it took to set the camera up and wait
>> for the right moment.  Lightning photos are always interesting to look
>> at, but high-speed video is something else....
> 
> You know what might be cool?
> 
> TIME-LAPSE PHOTOGRAPHY.
> 
> I have no idea how you'd do this automatically, but hypothetically all
> you need is an ordinary still camera and the patience of a POV-Ray
> user...

I'm not sure how a time-lapse photo of something so quick would work....

Jim


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From: Florian Pesth
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 14:58:54
Message: <4aca41ee$1@news.povray.org>
Am Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:31:34 +0100 schrieb Orchid XP v8:
> 
> You know what might be cool?
> 
> TIME-LAPSE PHOTOGRAPHY.
> 
> I have no idea how you'd do this automatically, but hypothetically all
> you need is an ordinary still camera and the patience of a POV-Ray
> user...

Oh, some cameras you can control via USB (I think all DSLR and some 
others) and you could set up a laptop and do it like that (considering it 
doesn't rain and your laptop doesn't run out of power during that 
time :)). For Nikon (and for Canon as well probably) there are also some 
remote controls which have a setting for taking a picture in certain 
intervalls.

There was a cool webpage of someone doing HDR Timelapse photography with 
a moving camera. He had mounted the camera on an electrified telescope 
mount and could control the camera as well as the telescope mount. I have 
to search, if I can find a link.


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From: Florian Pesth
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 15:00:54
Message: <4aca4266@news.povray.org>
Am Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:58:54 -0400 schrieb Florian Pesth:

> Am Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:31:34 +0100 schrieb Orchid XP v8:
>> 
>> You know what might be cool?
>> 
>> TIME-LAPSE PHOTOGRAPHY.
>> 
>> I have no idea how you'd do this automatically, but hypothetically all
>> you need is an ordinary still camera and the patience of a POV-Ray
>> user...
> 
> Oh, some cameras you can control via USB (I think all DSLR and some
> others) and you could set up a laptop and do it like that (considering
> it doesn't rain and your laptop doesn't run out of power during that
> time :)). For Nikon (and for Canon as well probably) there are also some
> remote controls which have a setting for taking a picture in certain
> intervalls.
> 
> There was a cool webpage of someone doing HDR Timelapse photography with
> a moving camera. He had mounted the camera on an electrified telescope
> mount and could control the camera as well as the telescope mount. I
> have to search, if I can find a link.

Ah, easy to find :). Here it is:

http://www.hdrtimelapse.com/


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 15:28:44
Message: <4aca48ec@news.povray.org>
>> You know what might be cool?
>>
>> TIME-LAPSE PHOTOGRAPHY.
> 
> I'm not sure how a time-lapse photo of something so quick would work....

No, I mean... High-speed photography requires specialised equipment. 
Time lapse only requires a regular camera. So do time lapse [of 
something else].

But since you comment... take a long exposure of a night sky, and you 
get quite an impressive effect. Ever see those photographs with 25 
lightning strikes in the same image? Long exposure. Several flashes 
captured in a single frame. (This *also* requires special equipment, 
mind you...)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 15:42:24
Message: <4aca4c20$1@news.povray.org>
>> You know what might be cool?
>>
>> TIME-LAPSE PHOTOGRAPHY.
> 
> I've done that before.... I'll have to dig up the stills and rebuild the 
> movie one of these days. I watered a plant, then filmed it over a period 
> of 24 hours. It's amazing how much a plant moves during the day.

Day of the Triffids, EAT YOUR HEART OUT!

Yeah, plants writhe around alarmingly much, actually. Heh, you could 
even film paint drying... Might be a bit boring tho.



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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 15:42:54
Message: <4aca4c3e$1@news.povray.org>
Florian Pesth wrote:
> http://www.hdrtimelapse.com/

Amateur.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msM1I59KbgY#t=3m30s

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 15:46:43
Message: <4aca4d23$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/5/2009 2:28 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> But since you comment... take a long exposure of a night sky, and you
> get quite an impressive effect. Ever see those photographs with 25
> lightning strikes in the same image? Long exposure. Several flashes
> captured in a single frame. (This *also* requires special equipment,
> mind you...)

Really? My camera can do that. All that's needed is to hold the shutter 
button down. SLR cameras have been doing that for decades.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 15:51:01
Message: <4aca4e25$1@news.povray.org>
> Heh, you could even film paint drying... Might be a bit boring tho.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1489

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 15:52:03
Message: <4aca4e63$1@news.povray.org>
>> But since you comment... take a long exposure of a night sky, and you
>> get quite an impressive effect. Ever see those photographs with 25
>> lightning strikes in the same image? Long exposure. Several flashes
>> captured in a single frame. (This *also* requires special equipment,
>> mind you...)
> 
> Really? My camera can do that. All that's needed is to hold the shutter 
> button down. SLR cameras have been doing that for decades.

Well, yeah, you need a camera where you actually have the ability to 
control the shutter speed. Most cameras don't let you do this at all. 
And even the ones that do, the maximum duration is usually 0.1 seconds 
or something. Not 20 *minutes*...

Hence, "special equipment".

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 15:55:10
Message: <4aca4f1e$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/5/2009 2:52 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Well, yeah, you need a camera where you actually have the ability to
> control the shutter speed. Most cameras don't let you do this at all.
> And even the ones that do, the maximum duration is usually 0.1 seconds
> or something. Not 20 *minutes*...
>
> Hence, "special equipment".
>

My wife's powershot can take exposures of up to 30 seconds... Not 
special equipment at all.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 16:08:46
Message: <4aca524e$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> My wife's powershot can take exposures of up to 30 seconds... Not 
> special equipment at all.

Yeah. It's usually the higher end cameras that say "Let me know when you 
want to close the lens, eh?" :-)


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   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 16:45:44
Message: <4aca5af8$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Heh, you could even film paint drying... Might be a bit boring tho.
> 
> http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1489
> 

I don't need to open the link to know the cartoon. If you hadn't linked
it, I would've.

-Aero


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 16:46:58
Message: <4aca5b42@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> 
> Yeah. It's usually the higher end cameras that say "Let me know when you
> want to close the lens, eh?" :-)
> 

Yep. Like my Nikon F65 (an entry-level SLR).

-Aero


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From: Florian Pesth
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 17:17:40
Message: <4aca6274$1@news.povray.org>
Am Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:42:52 -0700 schrieb Darren New:

> Florian Pesth wrote:
>> http://www.hdrtimelapse.com/
> 
> Amateur.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msM1I59KbgY#t=3m30s

Nice steampunk :)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 17:35:19
Message: <4aca6697$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:28:46 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>>> You know what might be cool?
>>>
>>> TIME-LAPSE PHOTOGRAPHY.
>> 
>> I'm not sure how a time-lapse photo of something so quick would
>> work....
> 
> No, I mean... High-speed photography requires specialised equipment.
> Time lapse only requires a regular camera. So do time lapse [of
> something else].

OIC, it wasn't clear you were changing subjects. ;-)  I've done time-
lapse photography with my digital camera - built-in setting for it.

> But since you comment... take a long exposure of a night sky, and you
> get quite an impressive effect. Ever see those photographs with 25
> lightning strikes in the same image? Long exposure. Several flashes
> captured in a single frame. (This *also* requires special equipment,
> mind you...)

Yeah, I've seen that done as well - my camera also can do up to a 25 
second exposure, but Canon cameras with CHDK installed can do even longer 
times IIRC.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 5 Oct 2009 18:17:12
Message: <4aca7068$1@news.povray.org>
Florian Pesth wrote:
> Nice steampunk :)

The full movie is actually very nice steampunk. :-) The fast-forward 
sequences are lovely.

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 6 Oct 2009 04:08:12
Message: <4acafaec@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:

> Yep. Like my Nikon F65 (an entry-level SLR).

Isn't that like claiming an "entry-level particle accelerator" is not 
"special equipment"? :-P


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 6 Oct 2009 04:24:23
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Invisible wrote:
> Eero Ahonen wrote:
> 
>> Yep. Like my Nikon F65 (an entry-level SLR).
> 
> Isn't that like claiming an "entry-level particle accelerator" is not
> "special equipment"? :-P

If a camera, that cost 300 euros at 2005 while bought as new, is special
equipment, then possibly yes.

-Aero


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 6 Oct 2009 04:39:18
Message: <4acb0236@news.povray.org>
>>> Yep. Like my Nikon F65 (an entry-level SLR).
>> Isn't that like claiming an "entry-level particle accelerator" is not
>> "special equipment"? :-P
> 
> If a camera, that cost 300 euros at 2005 while bought as new, is special
> equipment, then possibly yes.

Heh. SLR is much, much cheaper than it used to be...


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 6 Oct 2009 05:13:49
Message: <4acb0a4d$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>>> Yep. Like my Nikon F65 (an entry-level SLR).
>>> Isn't that like claiming an "entry-level particle accelerator" is not
>>> "special equipment"? :-P
>>
>> If a camera, that cost 300 euros at 2005 while bought as new, is special
>> equipment, then possibly yes.
> 
> Heh. SLR is much, much cheaper than it used to be...

Yes, if we look back enough. Today I'd say you can't get a decent SLR
for 300e from Finland, since they are all D-SLR's now. F65 still uses
35mm film.

-Aero


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 6 Oct 2009 12:49:14
Message: <4acb750a@news.povray.org>
On 10/6/2009 3:08 AM, Invisible wrote:

> Isn't that like claiming an "entry-level particle accelerator" is not
> "special equipment"? :-P

Mm, New from Fischer-Price: My First Particle accelerator: Comes with 
everything needed to build your very own proton accelerator in you own 
home. Comes complete with 15MW generators, bubble chamber, and a 
large-scale farm of analysis computers and data collection equipment. Be 
the first on your block to discover the enigmatic Higgs Boson.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 6 Oct 2009 13:49:54
Message: <4acb8342$1@news.povray.org>
>> Isn't that like claiming an "entry-level particle accelerator" is not
>> "special equipment"? :-P
> 
> Mm, New from Fischer-Price: My First Particle accelerator: Comes with 
> everything needed to build your very own proton accelerator in you own 
> home. Comes complete with 15MW generators, bubble chamber, and a 
> large-scale farm of analysis computers and data collection equipment. Be 
> the first on your block to discover the enigmatic Higgs Boson.

WIN!

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Bang
Date: 6 Oct 2009 17:05:55
Message: <4acbb133$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 schrieb:
>>> Isn't that like claiming an "entry-level particle accelerator" is not
>>> "special equipment"? :-P
>>
>> Mm, New from Fischer-Price: My First Particle accelerator: Comes with 
>> everything needed to build your very own proton accelerator in you own 
>> home. Comes complete with 15MW generators, bubble chamber, and a 
>> large-scale farm of analysis computers and data collection equipment. 
>> Be the first on your block to discover the enigmatic Higgs Boson.

I'd guess though that at a university with a strong natural science 
branch, they wouldn't call their own local particle accelerator "special 
equipment" - because there's actually not much magic in, say, a 
Van-de-Graaf- or even a Tandem accelerator, let alone a small Cyclotron, 
and a university might well be capable to "DIY" such a thing if they set 
their mind to it. (The basic technology has been around since the '30s 
of the last century.)

What they /will/ call "special equipment" are probably all the 
accessories: Sputter (ion) sources, particle detectors, data analysis 
electronics and stuff like that; and they'll be very proud of each of 
those thingumajigs they produced themselves. (At Cologne university, for 
instance, they develop their own signal processing hardware, including 
custom ASICs; they also tried to roll their own detector crystals, but 
failed...)


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