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I just obtained a dubiously legal copy of the score for the Dance of the
Sugar Plumb Fairy.
OH MY LIFE! O_O
Chromatic chord progressions, MUCH?
Damn, no wonder it's labelled as "advanced"... It's almost unplayable! >_<
Sounds damned good though...
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On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:17:58 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> OH MY LIFE! O_O
>
> Chromatic chord progressions, MUCH?
Heh, have a look at some Stravinksy sometime - like the Rite of
Spring. ;-)
Jim
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>> OH MY LIFE! O_O
>>
>> Chromatic chord progressions, MUCH?
>
> Heh, have a look at some Stravinksy sometime - like the Rite of
> Spring. ;-)
Yes, because I ACTUALLY WANT TO BECOME CLINICALLY INSANE. :-P
Man, I had literally no idea how hard this was going to be...
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:38:14 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> OH MY LIFE! O_O
>>>
>>> Chromatic chord progressions, MUCH?
>>
>> Heh, have a look at some Stravinksy sometime - like the Rite of Spring.
>> ;-)
>
> Yes, because I ACTUALLY WANT TO BECOME CLINICALLY INSANE. :-P
Well, it is a pretty cool piece of music. I may have to listen to it
today, in fact. :-)
> Man, I had literally no idea how hard this was going to be...
That level of music is by its very nature difficult. I was listening to
Paganini's 1st violin concerto the other day, and wondered what it was
that caused such a deep-seated hatred of violinists. ;-)
Jim
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> OH MY LIFE! O_O
>
> Chromatic chord progressions, MUCH?
>
> Damn, no wonder it's labelled as "advanced"... It's almost unplayable! >_<
>
> Sounds damned good though...
Try this on for size:
D F# A C D F# A C
D# F# A B D# F# A B
D F# A C D F# A C
D# F# A B D# F# A B
F A C E F A C E
F# A B D# F# A B D#
F A C E F A C E
F# A B D# F# A B D#
A C D# G A C D# G
B D# F# B D# F#
A C D# G A C D# G
B D# F# B D# F#
D F# A C D F# A C
D# F# A B D# F# A B
D F# A C D F# A C
D# F# A B D# F# A B
I draw your particular attention to the fact that every line has 8 notes
in it, EXCEPT TWO that have only six notes in them, just to **** things
up. (It's also just taken me ten minutes to even figure all this out,
what with the key signatures and the multiple accidentals and
cancellations...)
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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>>> Heh, have a look at some Stravinksy sometime - like the Rite of Spring.
>>> ;-)
>> Yes, because I ACTUALLY WANT TO BECOME CLINICALLY INSANE. :-P
>
> Well, it is a pretty cool piece of music. I may have to listen to it
> today, in fact. :-)
Well good for you. :-P
>> Man, I had literally no idea how hard this was going to be...
>
> That level of music is by its very nature difficult.
Doesn't sound very difficult. But Jesus, I'm twisting my hands into
knots trying to follow all these crazy notes!
> I was listening to
> Paganini's 1st violin concerto the other day, and wondered what it was
> that caused such a deep-seated hatred of violinists. ;-)
Paganini was a violin virtuoso, so it probably wasn't that hard for HIM...
(I saw a piece of music the other day. Apparently Bach wrote it as a
simple piece of organ music to teach his wife how to play organ.
Except... well, this is Bach we're talking about here, so it's NOT
simple at all!)
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:53:39 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> Heh, have a look at some Stravinksy sometime - like the Rite of
>>>> Spring. ;-)
>>> Yes, because I ACTUALLY WANT TO BECOME CLINICALLY INSANE. :-P
>>
>> Well, it is a pretty cool piece of music. I may have to listen to it
>> today, in fact. :-)
>
> Well good for you. :-P
:-)
>>> Man, I had literally no idea how hard this was going to be...
>>
>> That level of music is by its very nature difficult.
>
> Doesn't sound very difficult. But Jesus, I'm twisting my hands into
> knots trying to follow all these crazy notes!
That's often the most difficult music. Some of the most technically
challenging music I've played are pieces like the Barber Adagio for
Strings - its simplicity makes it very difficult because (a) it's so
recognisible and (b) its subtlety makes mistakes in performance glaringly
obvious.
>> I was listening to
>> Paganini's 1st violin concerto the other day, and wondered what it was
>> that caused such a deep-seated hatred of violinists. ;-)
>
> Paganini was a violin virtuoso, so it probably wasn't that hard for
> HIM...
He did write them to showcase his own talents, but for most others things
like left-handed pizzicato thrown in with bowed elements (such that it
would be physically impossible to do the pizz with your right hand even
if you wanted to) or double-stop artificial harmonics (single-stop
artificial harmonics are a challenge on their own because the interval is
so precise). The speed isn't the killer, it's the precision and mix of
elements that will drive you insane. ;-)
> (I saw a piece of music the other day. Apparently Bach wrote it as a
> simple piece of organ music to teach his wife how to play organ.
> Except... well, this is Bach we're talking about here, so it's NOT
> simple at all!)
LOL
Jim
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>> Doesn't sound very difficult. But Jesus, I'm twisting my hands into
>> knots trying to follow all these crazy notes!
>
> That's often the most difficult music. Some of the most technically
> challenging music I've played are pieces like the Barber Adagio for
> Strings - its simplicity makes it very difficult because (a) it's so
> recognisible and (b) its subtlety makes mistakes in performance glaringly
> obvious.
Heh. I never really liked that thing very much...
>> Paganini was a violin virtuoso, so it probably wasn't that hard for
>> HIM...
>
> He did write them to showcase his own talents, but for most others things
> like left-handed pizzicato thrown in with bowed elements (such that it
> would be physically impossible to do the pizz with your right hand even
> if you wanted to) or double-stop artificial harmonics (single-stop
> artificial harmonics are a challenge on their own because the interval is
> so precise). The speed isn't the killer, it's the precision and mix of
> elements that will drive you insane. ;-)
...left-handed pizzicato?? O_O
OK, that's just frightening.
(Then again, I suck at playing the violin, so...)
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:23:32 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Doesn't sound very difficult. But Jesus, I'm twisting my hands into
>>> knots trying to follow all these crazy notes!
>>
>> That's often the most difficult music. Some of the most technically
>> challenging music I've played are pieces like the Barber Adagio for
>> Strings - its simplicity makes it very difficult because (a) it's so
>> recognisible and (b) its subtlety makes mistakes in performance
>> glaringly obvious.
>
> Heh. I never really liked that thing very much...
The Barber? Well, personal tastes aside, it's a very intense piece of
music, particularly to perform.
In concert, we had to start it three or four times once. Gorky Park in
Moscow. In the band shell (ie, outdoors). We'd start, it'd start
raining. We'd stop, it'd stop raining. This happened multiple times,
and finally the winds section got up and went to the back and the entire
string sections moved back during the last attempt to play it.
By the time we finished, there were only about 4 people left in the
audience.
>>> Paganini was a violin virtuoso, so it probably wasn't that hard for
>>> HIM...
>>
>> He did write them to showcase his own talents, but for most others
>> things like left-handed pizzicato thrown in with bowed elements (such
>> that it would be physically impossible to do the pizz with your right
>> hand even if you wanted to) or double-stop artificial harmonics
>> (single-stop artificial harmonics are a challenge on their own because
>> the interval is so precise). The speed isn't the killer, it's the
>> precision and mix of elements that will drive you insane. ;-)
>
> ...left-handed pizzicato?? O_O
>
> OK, that's just frightening.
>
> (Then again, I suck at playing the violin, so...)
Even good violinists have trouble with left-handed pizzicato. But the
Paganini (last movement of VC1) has runs that are like D, C#, B, A
(played on the A string) in rapid succession; so you have to have the
strength in your left hand to not only play the notes (not a big deal)
and to pluck the string AS YOU REMOVE your fingers from the string.
And the coordination to do so while maintaining the rhythm of the music.
Jim
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On 1 Oct 2009 11:20:05 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:17:58 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>
>> OH MY LIFE! O_O
>>
>> Chromatic chord progressions, MUCH?
>
>Heh, have a look at some Stravinksy sometime - like the Rite of
>Spring. ;-)
>
Everyone to their own :P
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Stephen
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