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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pY08e_tdtA
that's some organ! :)
> Pitty the registration is so flat, eh? (And is it me, or is this thing
> tuned weirdly?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well-Tempered_Clavier#Intended_tuning
At Bach's time, tuning was not quite like the one employed today. Perhaps an
"authentic performance"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authentic_performance#Tuning_and_pitch
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nemesis wrote:
> that's some organ! :)
Hell yes!
I'm going to go out on a limb and say French?
>> Pitty the registration is so flat, eh? (And is it me, or is this thing
>> tuned weirdly?)
>
> At Bach's time, tuning was not quite like the one employed today. Perhaps an
> "authentic performance"?
No, I'm pretty sure the *temperment* is unchaged. More like the organ is
just tuned flat. (Apparently many historic organs are...)
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>> Pitty the registration is so flat, eh? (And is it me, or is this thing
>> tuned weirdly?)
>
> Could be a limitation of the recording.
Apparently many historic organs are tuned flatter than modern ones.
>> Also love the key the video and sound are out of sync...
>
> I'm not sure how you can tell with a pipe organ, considering the pipes
> take a while to start sounding.
Depends which stops. The bass pipes in particular tend to be slow to
speak, as do low diapasons. But reed pipes tend to speak very promptly.
Look closer: I think the sound *preceeds* the keys, rather than lagging
it. Which, obviously, is physically impossible...
> But HD youtube video is always out of
> sync with the sound. Perhaps they're converting the sound at 29.97fps
> and the video at 30fps, which might also explain why it sounds flat.
Maybe.
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On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:38:42 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>Look closer: I think the sound *preceeds* the keys, rather than lagging
>it. Which, obviously, is physically impossible...
Not with a quantum organ ;)
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Stephen
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Look closer: I think the sound *preceeds* the keys, rather than lagging
> it. Which, obviously, is physically impossible...
It's probably system-dependant. In my computer if there's any lag, it's
the sound lagging behind. Barely.
--
- Warp
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>> Look closer: I think the sound *preceeds* the keys, rather than lagging
>> it. Which, obviously, is physically impossible...
>
> Not with a quantum organ ;)
Don't be stupid. If it was a *quantum* organ, it would be completely
silent until somebody goes into the room to listen to it - otherwise it
would just be a superposition of all possible notes...
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On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:34:22 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Look closer: I think the sound *preceeds* the keys, rather than lagging
>>> it. Which, obviously, is physically impossible...
>>
>> Not with a quantum organ ;)
>
>Don't be stupid. If it was a *quantum* organ, it would be completely
>silent until somebody goes into the room to listen to it - otherwise it
>would just be a superposition of all possible notes...
Not if you have the Reverse Causality stop pulled out.
And that raises the point, does a recording device count as an observer?
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Regards
Stephen
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Am Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:38:42 +0100 schrieb Orchid XP v8:
> Depends which stops. The bass pipes in particular tend to be slow to
> speak, as do low diapasons. But reed pipes tend to speak very promptly.
>
Never thought about that, interesting! So does that mean you have to take
into account when to press the lower keys, that it takes longer and
therefore you have to play them earlier than the higher notes and have to
play quite "irregular" to get a "regular" sound"? That sounds very
difficult to get right! And in fact, that could be a reason, why it
sounds so awful in church sometimes ;).
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Warp schrieb:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pY08e_tdtA
>
> Bach's Toccata&Fugue is so often used that it has become basically a
> cliche, but it still manages to be majestic and impressive, especially
> when played by a professional on a real, high-quality church organ.
It appears to me that there's even more potential in that piece than the
classic church organ cliche - just listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg8Fa_EUQqY
It actually makes me wonder what bands like Jethro Tull might have made
out of it.
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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Warp schrieb:
> > Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pY08e_tdtA
> >
> > Bach's Toccata&Fugue is so often used that it has become basically a
> > cliche, but it still manages to be majestic and impressive, especially
> > when played by a professional on a real, high-quality church organ.
>
> It appears to me that there's even more potential in that piece than the
> classic church organ cliche - just listen to this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg8Fa_EUQqY
coming full cycle then. It is thought by scholars that this Toccata is an
adaptation to organ by Bach of a previous song, by its structure possibly for
violin or some early relative indeed.
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