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From: Warp
Subject: Random question about poetry
Date: 1 Sep 2009 17:06:50
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This is one of those questions which is basically impossible to google.
Perhaps because there is no answer. Anyways...

  Does the style of poetry where the first verse is repeated as the last
verse have a name?

  The idea of repeating the first verse as the last verse of the poem can
make it very profound and powerful, IMO. An absolutely superb example by
Tolkien:

    The way is shut
    It was made by those who are Dead
    And the Dead keep it
    Until the time comes
    The way is shut

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Random question about poetry
Date: 1 Sep 2009 23:35:37
Message: <4a9de809$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   This is one of those questions which is basically impossible to google.
> Perhaps because there is no answer. Anyways...
> 
>   Does the style of poetry where the first verse is repeated as the last
> verse have a name?
> 
>   The idea of repeating the first verse as the last verse of the poem can
> make it very profound and powerful, IMO. An absolutely superb example by
> Tolkien:
> 
>     The way is shut
>     It was made by those who are Dead
>     And the Dead keep it
>     Until the time comes
>     The way is shut
> 

Isn't that the line repeated?


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Random question about poetry
Date: 1 Sep 2009 23:46:37
Message: <4a9dea9d@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> 
>>   This is one of those questions which is basically impossible to google.
>> Perhaps because there is no answer. Anyways...
>>
>>   Does the style of poetry where the first verse is repeated as the last
>> verse have a name?
>>
>>   The idea of repeating the first verse as the last verse of the poem can
>> make it very profound and powerful, IMO. An absolutely superb example by
>> Tolkien:
>>
>>     The way is shut
>>     It was made by those who are Dead
>>     And the Dead keep it
>>     Until the time comes
>>     The way is shut
>>
> 
> Isn't that the line repeated?

I seem to have the thought that repeating the first verse as the last is 
common with hymns?  Haven't been to church in four decades so it is a 
hazy thought at best.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Random question about poetry
Date: 2 Sep 2009 00:12:52
Message: <4a9df0c4$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
> 
>> Warp wrote:
>>
>>>   This is one of those questions which is basically impossible to 
>>> google.
>>> Perhaps because there is no answer. Anyways...
>>>
>>>   Does the style of poetry where the first verse is repeated as the last
>>> verse have a name?
>>>
>>>   The idea of repeating the first verse as the last verse of the poem 
>>> can
>>> make it very profound and powerful, IMO. An absolutely superb example by
>>> Tolkien:
>>>
>>>     The way is shut
>>>     It was made by those who are Dead
>>>     And the Dead keep it
>>>     Until the time comes
>>>     The way is shut
>>>
>>
>> Isn't that the line repeated?
> 
> 
> I seem to have the thought that repeating the first verse as the last is 
> common with hymns?  Haven't been to church in four decades so it is a 
> hazy thought at best.
Well near misses are the Rondeau, powerful example:In Flanders Fields
and something called a Didactic Cinquain  The whole Cinquain thing is 
rather interesting
http://www.cinquain.org/theory.html


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