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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 04:27:31
Message: <4a9cdaf3$1@news.povray.org>
>> It just seems everywhere I go, everybody else falls into a completely 
>> different age group to me.
> 
> Rule #1 : Never refuse friendship with someone because they are not a 
> young single hot girl.

Fair enough. But [for example] the people I go dancing with are all 
decades older than me, and we just have nothing in common. I try to find 
things to talk about, but it's really a struggle.

(Then again, finding anything to talk about is a struggle for me. I 
guess I'm just too damned boring.)

It just seems everywhere I do, I don't fit in. Hell, even my gaming 
clan; they're all gamers. I'm the only actual computer nerd.

> Rule #2 : Act with your friends in a way that would make you attractive 
> to girls.  Girls are not going to like you if your friends say to them 
> "he's really boring, he just moans about work and his life the whole 
> time".  If you are more positive then they will say "oh you should meet 
> Andrew, he's a really good guy". Maybe :-)

Maybe this is why I fail. I mean, let's face it, aside from being a nice 
guy with a good heart, I have absolutely no redeeming features. Why 
should anybody go to the bother of getting to know me? What's in it for 
them? It's not like there's anything worth-while about me...

> You might try joining some activity group to make new friends, some of 
> mine use this place in the UK:
> 
> http://www.spiceuk.com/home

It's worth a look if nothing else.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 05:30:23
Message: <4a9ce9af@news.povray.org>
> It just seems everywhere I do, I don't fit in. Hell, even my gaming clan; 
> they're all gamers. I'm the only actual computer nerd.

If you think you "don't fit in" just because you're a computer nerd and 
they're gamers, then sorry but you're never going to fit in anywhere unless 
you go to a computer nerd convention.  I guarantee that the number of people 
you will meet normally in your life (ie not by going to a convention or 
whatever) that want to talk about functional programming languages with you 
will be *tiny*.  There's nothing wrong with functional programming, it's 
just everyone has their own very specific interests, and if you rule out 
anyone else then you're going to be very lonely.

> Maybe this is why I fail. I mean, let's face it, aside from being a nice 
> guy with a good heart, I have absolutely no redeeming features. Why should 
> anybody go to the bother of getting to know me? What's in it for them? 
> It's not like there's anything worth-while about me...

Oh I'm sure there is, but if you keep telling everyone you meet that there 
isn't, then don't expect anyone to be at all interested in you.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 05:40:10
Message: <4a9cebfa$1@news.povray.org>
>> It just seems everywhere I do, I don't fit in. Hell, even my gaming 
>> clan; they're all gamers. I'm the only actual computer nerd.
> 
> If you think you "don't fit in" just because you're a computer nerd and 
> they're gamers, then sorry but you're never going to fit in anywhere.

Actually, when we're gaming, I think I more or less fit in. It's the 
face to face stuff where I don't get on so well. But some of the guys 
are quite fun; I guess you can't expect to get along with everybody.

What I can't figure out is this: I can't be the only person my age in 
the entire city of Milton Keynes. So where the *hell* are the rest of 
them? Presumably if I could find them, I'd get along with *some* of them...

> you're going to be very lonely.

Um... I already am?

>> Maybe this is why I fail. I mean, let's face it, aside from being a 
>> nice guy with a good heart, I have absolutely no redeeming features. 
>> Why should anybody go to the bother of getting to know me? What's in 
>> it for them? It's not like there's anything worth-while about me...
> 
> Oh I'm sure there is, but if you keep telling everyone you meet that 
> there isn't, then don't expect anyone to be at all interested in you.

Ever tried to convince somebody else of something you don't really 
believe yourself? It's kinda tricky. :-/


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 06:55:01
Message: <web.4a9cfcfad48e359db1cbd6370@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Maybe this is why I fail. I mean, let's face it, aside from being a nice
> guy with a good heart, I have absolutely no redeeming features. Why
> should anybody go to the bother of getting to know me? What's in it for
> them? It's not like there's anything worth-while about me...

oh, no, NO, NOOO!!  not again that self-whipping time!!

Do you drink?  Beer at least?  Always a good bet for shy guys!  Learn the art of
drinking and you're set to go... :D


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 06:58:52
Message: <4a9cfe6c$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:

> Do you drink?  Beer at least?  Always a good bet for shy guys!  Learn the art of
> drinking and you're set to go... :D

Erm, NO.

Beer tasted God-damned awful! >_<

I drink Archers. :-P


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 07:20:00
Message: <web.4a9d0340d48e359db1cbd6370@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>
> > Do you drink?  Beer at least?  Always a good bet for shy guys!  Learn the art of
> > drinking and you're set to go... :D
>
> Erm, NO.
>
> Beer tasted God-damned awful! >_<

yeah, I couldn't stand beer in my early ages too.  It's taste grew on me at
later years though, as well as legumes, vegetables and walnuts.  funky, ain't
it?

> I drink Archers. :-P

no clue.  If it's soda, then no deal... :D


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From: scott
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 07:44:14
Message: <4a9d090e$1@news.povray.org>
>> I drink Archers. :-P
> 
> no clue.  If it's soda, then no deal... :D

It's alcoholic, but it's definitely a girl's drink.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 07:57:09
Message: <4a9d0c15$1@news.povray.org>
>>> I drink Archers. :-P
>>
>> no clue.  If it's soda, then no deal... :D
> 
> It's alcoholic, but it's definitely a girl's drink.

Peach schnapps to be precise.

I also drink Baileys. Judging from the disapproving look I got from my 
uncle, I'm guessing this is also a girls' drink. (Note correct use of 
apostrophy.)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 08:13:37
Message: <4a9d0ff1$1@news.povray.org>
>> It's alcoholic, but it's definitely a girl's drink.
>
> Peach schnapps to be precise.
>
> I also drink Baileys. Judging from the disapproving look I got from my 
> uncle, I'm guessing this is also a girls' drink.

What exactly did you drink when those two girls were laughing at you?  If 
you had an archers or a baileys then that would definitely be a good enough 
reason IMO.

> (Note correct use of apostrophy.)

So is beer a men's drink?


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 08:27:01
Message: <4a9d1315$1@news.povray.org>
>>> It's alcoholic, but it's definitely a girl's drink.
>>
>> Peach schnapps to be precise.
>>
>> I also drink Baileys. Judging from the disapproving look I got from my 
>> uncle, I'm guessing this is also a girls' drink.
> 
> What exactly did you drink when those two girls were laughing at you?  
> If you had an archers or a baileys then that would definitely be a good 
> enough reason IMO.

Lemonade - not that there's any way they could know what the colourless 
sparkling liquid I was drinking actually was.

IIRC, neither of them were drinking either because they had to drive 
afterwards.

>> (Note correct use of apostrophy.)
> 
> So is beer a men's drink?

It's a man's drink or a mens' drink.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 1 Sep 2009 08:46:23
Message: <4a9d179f$1@news.povray.org>
>>> (Note correct use of apostrophy.)
>> 
>> So is beer a men's drink?
> 
> It's a man's drink 

If a man's drink is correct, then why do you think a girl's drink wrong?

> or a mens' drink.

Now that is definitely wrong.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 01:08:28
Message: <4a9dfdcc$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:58:53 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> I drink Archers. :-P

Drink what you like.  To hell with what others think of it.

Jim


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 03:11:02
Message: <4a9e1a86@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Beer tasted God-damned awful! >_<
> 
> yeah, I couldn't stand beer in my early ages too.  It's taste grew on me at
> later years though, as well as legumes, vegetables and walnuts.  funky, ain't
> it?

I gotta admit, I'm having a hard time getting used to beer.  I'm ok with 
most mixed drinks, but my true favorite is absinthe :) :) :)

No matter, though, as they're all effective at removing one's 
inhibitions (as the saying goes, sure you can have fun without 
drinking... but why use matches when you have a lighter? :) ).

...Chambers


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 05:46:38
Message: <mmfs95pibqcrj87k6thg5eoe5aibnqq2tk@4ax.com>
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:27:30 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Maybe this is why I fail. I mean, let's face it, aside from being a nice 
>guy with a good heart, I have absolutely no redeeming features. Why 
>should anybody go to the bother of getting to know me? What's in it for 
>them? It's not like there's anything worth-while about me...

Well, Dr John, Steve and I have met you in RL and I think that if we were closer
in location we would have met up regularly. Age might be a bit of an issue when
looking for a girlfriend but not for plain friendship. 
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 06:04:40
Message: <gogs959rh0b75u2tnkcm9iiqdofph9cakt@4ax.com>
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:44:13 +0200, "scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:

>>> I drink Archers. :-P
>> 
>> no clue.  If it's soda, then no deal... :D
>
>It's alcoholic, but it's definitely a girl's drink.
> 

So! Occasionally I drink advocaat, with or without lemonade. Not just in poncy
London pubs but I've ordered it in rough dockside bars. The only comment I've
had is "What are you drinking that for?" to which I reply "I like the taste." No
problems.

Oh! Forgot to mention I do ask for it to be served in a dirty glass. :-)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 11:50:41
Message: <4a9e9451@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson escreveu:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:58:53 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> 
>> I drink Archers. :-P
> 
> Drink what you like.  To hell with what others think of it.

and another Archers' fan, ladies and gentlemen! :)

-- 
a game sig: http://tinyurl.com/d3rxz9


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 11:51:48
Message: <4a9e9494@news.povray.org>
Chambers escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Beer tasted God-damned awful! >_<
>>
>> yeah, I couldn't stand beer in my early ages too.  It's taste grew on 
>> me at
>> later years though, as well as legumes, vegetables and walnuts.  
>> funky, ain't
>> it?
> 
> I gotta admit, I'm having a hard time getting used to beer.  I'm ok with 
> most mixed drinks, but my true favorite is absinthe :) :) :)

WTF?!  I thought absinthe was long forbidden...

-- 
a game sig: http://tinyurl.com/d3rxz9


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 12:09:36
Message: <4a9e98c0$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:50:40 -0300, nemesis wrote:

> Jim Henderson escreveu:
>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:58:53 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>> 
>>> I drink Archers. :-P
>> 
>> Drink what you like.  To hell with what others think of it.
> 
> and another Archers' fan, ladies and gentlemen! :)

I don't even know what it is. :-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 12:10:01
Message: <4a9e98d9$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:51:47 -0300, nemesis wrote:

>> I gotta admit, I'm having a hard time getting used to beer.  I'm ok
>> with most mixed drinks, but my true favorite is absinthe :) :) :)
> 
> WTF?!  I thought absinthe was long forbidden...

Nope.  In fact, they've started selling it in the liquor stores here in 
Utah.

Jim


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 12:45:10
Message: <4a9ea116@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson escreveu:
> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:50:40 -0300, nemesis wrote:
> 
>> Jim Henderson escreveu:
>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:58:53 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>>>
>>>> I drink Archers. :-P
>>> Drink what you like.  To hell with what others think of it.
>> and another Archers' fan, ladies and gentlemen! :)
> 
> I don't even know what it is. :-)

neither do I! :P

-- 
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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 2 Sep 2009 22:37:47
Message: <4a9f2bfb$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Chambers escreveu:
>> I gotta admit, I'm having a hard time getting used to beer.  I'm ok 
>> with most mixed drinks, but my true favorite is absinthe :) :) :)
> 
> WTF?!  I thought absinthe was long forbidden...


Admittedly, I only know of one bar in the area that serves it...

...Chambers


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From: scott
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 03:35:13
Message: <4a9f71b1@news.povray.org>
>> I gotta admit, I'm having a hard time getting used to beer.  I'm ok with 
>> most mixed drinks, but my true favorite is absinthe :) :) :)
>
> WTF?!  I thought absinthe was long forbidden...

I've seen it here in the shops (quite respectable chain stores) in Germany, 
but I don't know it's genuine or not.  You can also get it from just over 
the border in the Czech, which I suspect is more than likely the real stuff. 
Personally I've never drunk enough of it to have any effect.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 04:19:54
Message: <4a9f7c2a@news.povray.org>
nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > I gotta admit, I'm having a hard time getting used to beer.  I'm ok with 
> > most mixed drinks, but my true favorite is absinthe :) :) :)

> WTF?!  I thought absinthe was long forbidden...

  Absinthe having drug-like hallucinogenic and other effects is just an
urban legend invented by absolutists of the time. In reality, there's
nothing special about absinthe. It's just a liquor like everything else.
If it has any special effect (which other liquors don't have) on anybody,
that's a pure placebo effect. (At some places they like to keep up the
urban legend and the ensuing placebo effect on people because it's
profitable.)

  AFAIK absinthe has not been forbidden anywhere for a long time.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 04:35:07
Message: <ktvu95hk7nok51h6acs6nun537ialv0nm5@4ax.com>
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:35:12 +0200, "scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:

>Personally I've never drunk enough of it to have any effect.

The psychotropic effect is a myth made up by teetotallers and social reformers.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: scott
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 04:46:42
Message: <4a9f8272$1@news.povray.org>
>>Personally I've never drunk enough of it to have any effect.
>
> The psychotropic effect is a myth made up by teetotallers and social 
> reformers.

Cool, I never knew that, I will spread the word!


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 04:56:49
Message: <761v95pk3qkhklu4f3f9170gsrmt13449f@4ax.com>
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:46:41 +0200, "scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:

>>>Personally I've never drunk enough of it to have any effect.
>>
>> The psychotropic effect is a myth made up by teetotallers and social 
>> reformers.
>
>Cool, I never knew that, I will spread the word!
> 

It was a disappointment to me when I found out. Also there is too much alcohol
in the Green Fairy for my taste.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 12:03:11
Message: <4a9fe8bf$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:19:54 -0400, Warp wrote:

>   AFAIK absinthe has not been forbidden anywhere for a long time.

IIRC, it was here in Utah until fairly recently (like the last year or 
so).

Jim


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 3 Sep 2009 23:28:32
Message: <4aa08960$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> Personally I've never drunk enough of it to have any
> effect.

Given its alcohol content, it doesn't take very much ;)

...Chambers


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From: arblick spule
Subject: Re: So women aren't attracted to you?
Date: 8 Sep 2009 16:30:00
Message: <web.4aa6be13d48e359d49a3f8030@news.povray.org>
Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> scott wrote:
> > Personally I've never drunk enough of it to have any
> > effect.
>
> Given its alcohol content, it doesn't take very much ;)
>
> ...Chambers

When I was aboot 20, I once took a 2ltr bottle of Absinth to a party load of
proper piss/messheads.  Fourteen hours later and I get home with 1.98ltrs of
the stuff.  No one could take it!  Apart from myself of course.  ;0)

BTW on the original subject of ladies not liking you, I'm sure you have a lot of
ladies who are interested in you.  However, one look at them and you dismiss
them as chaff.

The phrase "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" comes to mind, swiftly
followed by "but if you don't like the look of pie, you ain't gonna put it in
your mouth!".

Also, that pheromone/hormone stuff is b***s**t.  Me and a friend experimented
with it in the local "meat market".  Not one taker!  In fact there was a
visible !<sqrt(x^2+y^2+z^2) gap around us...   ...maybe it was the "less than"
in the equation that was the problem...

.....Hmm...  ..retry experiment with different parameters...




....Nope!


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