On 08/11/09 16:23, clipka wrote:
> BTW, I found the movie not so great. It was ok, but didn't have what I

	It was the contrary for me. The series was good, but the movie aimed to 
be great, and succeeded.


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Invisible wrote:
> "Despite its distance from traditional programming, and its relative 
> lack of common use, Haskell has become one of the most talked-about 
> languages on the Internet."
> 
> Um, WTF? No it hasn't!

Whenever people refer to anything as "the most talked-about," they are 
referring to the specific areas which they frequent, and apparently are 
forgetting that there is a world outside of the one they know.

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John

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> Whenever people refer to anything as "the most talked-about," they are 
> referring to the specific areas which they frequent, and apparently are 
> forgetting that there is a world outside of the one they know.

Yeah, Andrew is probably right. Though there's a decrease in intrest
in traditional programming languages lately.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=haskell+programming%2C+python+programming%2C+c+programming%2C+basic+programming%2C+pascal+programming&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=1

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Tim Attwood schrieb:
> Yeah, Andrew is probably right. Though there's a decrease in intrest
> in traditional programming languages lately.
>
http://www.google.com/trends?q=haskell+programming%2C+python+programming%2C+c+programming%2C+basic+programming%2C+pascal+programming&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=1


Given where the vast majority of searches for the traditional 
programming languages originate geographically, maybe all that this 
graph shows is the saturation of 2nd and 3rd world countries with people 
skilled enough to know enough of the basics that they don't have to 
google for these terms on a frequent basis anymore...

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>> The movement of the raptors in particular isn't very believable. Perhaps 
>> just because they move around way, way more than any of the other CGI 
>> characters. The raptor's mass seems wrong somehow, and the balance 
>> questionable. (Not that anybody's seen a real velociraptor move... But 
>> then, *real* velociraptors where nowhere near as big as those seen in 
>> the film.)
> 
>   Watch the third movie if you want better raptors. (Personally I like it.
> It's one of the very few third parts which are actually good.)

In the second movie in particular, they seemed like very clumsy 
creatures. Their movements looks implausible to the eye. (Which, 
obviously, isn't a conclusive result. Maybe it only looks fake because 
you know it *is* fake...) I don't remember much of the third film. Aside 
from the absurdity of hearing a cellphone from *inside* a 40-tonne 
animal. :-P

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>>>> From what I've seen, Lisp, Earlang and Clean get *way* more publicity
>>>> than little old Haskell. Even ML is more widely known.
>>>
>>> Hadn't heard of Clean till today.
>>
>> Yeah, Erlang is more widely known.
>     
>     And as an FYI, the only place I encounter people talking about 
> Erlang is on this newsgroup (namely, Darren). Haskell I see elsewhere.

Mmm, interesting. I heard of Erlang way, way before I knew Haskell 
existed. The whole "Ericson uses Erlang for all its mission-critical 
infrastructure, which is a massive vote of confidence for FP". Except 
that, obviously, it isn't, since Erlang is about as functional as Lisp - 
i.e., not very.

It seems Haskell is everybody's least-favourit language.

>>> Lisp used to be the king, but I'm sure if you look at the rate over
>>> the last 2 years, Haskell exceeds it.
>>
>> I don't know about that - ever heard of Emacs?
> 
>     I meant exceeds it in terms of online posts about it.

Maybe.

Maybe that just means that Haskell is way harder to understand than 
Lisp? :-/

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Neeum Zawan wrote:
>     And as an FYI, the only place I encounter people talking about 
> Erlang is on this newsgroup (namely, Darren). Haskell I see elsewhere.

It's mostly big in database settings. It's basically best for implementing 
distributed high-load database type stuff, not so good for normal-sized 
programming. If you want literally 100% uptime for 30 years, use Erlang.

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Darren New wrote:

> If you want literally 100% uptime for 30 years, use Erlang.

When the hell was Erlang invented? Has it had *time* to run for 30 years?

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Invisible schrieb:

>> If you want literally 100% uptime for 30 years, use Erlang.
> 
> When the hell was Erlang invented? Has it had *time* to run for 30 years?

something like 22 years so far.

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Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> 
>> If you want literally 100% uptime for 30 years, use Erlang.
> 
> When the hell was Erlang invented? Has it had *time* to run for 30 years?

http://www.erlang.org/course/history.html

Probably not, but certainly 10 or 15 years.

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