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I've just witnessed something awesome. I bought a packet of chocolate
buttons, and it comes with a perforated tear strip. Interestingly, the
packet is carefully designed so that tearing this strip does not, in
fact, grant access to the contents of the packet.
That's pure brilliance, right there! :-D
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Invisible wrote:
> packet is carefully designed so that tearing this strip does not, in
> fact, grant access to the contents of the packet.
The reason you're always disappointed is that you have such high standards.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
back to version 1.0."
"We've done that already. We call it 2.0."
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On 28-7-2009 13:55, Invisible wrote:
> I've just witnessed something awesome. I bought a packet of chocolate
> buttons, and it comes with a perforated tear strip. Interestingly, the
> packet is carefully designed so that tearing this strip does not, in
> fact, grant access to the contents of the packet.
>
> That's pure brilliance, right there! :-D
pictures or it didn't happen.
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andrel wrote:
> On 28-7-2009 13:55, Invisible wrote:
>> I've just witnessed something awesome. I bought a packet of chocolate
>> buttons, and it comes with a perforated tear strip. Interestingly, the
>> packet is carefully designed so that tearing this strip does not, in
>> fact, grant access to the contents of the packet.
>>
>> That's pure brilliance, right there! :-D
>
> pictures or it didn't happen.
I'd say "typical". Oh boy another face! :-D
Thunderbird has several of these you can insert from the toobar into email,
but the bar doesn't show up in its newreader.:( Something to do with
Unicode,
maybe.
David
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On 28-7-2009 21:41, David H. Burns wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> On 28-7-2009 13:55, Invisible wrote:
>>> I've just witnessed something awesome. I bought a packet of chocolate
>>> buttons, and it comes with a perforated tear strip. Interestingly,
>>> the packet is carefully designed so that tearing this strip does not,
>>> in fact, grant access to the contents of the packet.
>>>
>>> That's pure brilliance, right there! :-D
>>
>> pictures or it didn't happen.
>
> I'd say "typical". Oh boy another face! :-D
> Thunderbird has several of these you can insert from the toobar into email,
> but the bar doesn't show up in its newreader.:( Something to do with
> Unicode,
> maybe.
The ones in the bar are probably the ones it recognizes. The bar is also
there when you write a email to a newsgroup. It does not make sense when
reading, either the original writer added them or not.
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David H. Burns wrote:
> I'd say "typical". Oh boy another face! :-D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emoticons
One person I know on IRC comes up with the most entertaining variations
on East Asian-style emoticons, I really should start keeping track of them.
Obligatory relevance, http://www.bash.org/?105841
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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Tim Cook wrote:
> Obligatory relevance, http://www.bash.org/?105841
Thank you. *That* made me LOL.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
back to version 1.0."
"We've done that already. We call it 2.0."
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> I've just witnessed something awesome. I bought a packet of chocolate
> buttons, and it comes with a perforated tear strip. Interestingly, the
> packet is carefully designed so that tearing this strip does not, in fact,
> grant access to the contents of the packet.
I would hazard a guess that it is not in fact carefully designed :-) It
just makes you want to get the CEO or MD to come and show you how to open
their packets!
I don't understand why people can't get this right, it goes wrong on all
sorts of packaging and it's not that hard to get right - look at cigarette
packets for an example of how it should work (but then maybe they just have
more money to spend on Engineering the packaging?).
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scott wrote:
> I would hazard a guess that it is not in fact carefully designed :-) It
> just makes you want to get the CEO or MD to come and show you how to
> open their packets!
Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
> I don't understand why people can't get this right, it goes wrong on all
> sorts of packaging and it's not that hard to get right.
Indeed.
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Invisible wrote:
>
> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
>
If the ones in the UK are anything like the ones in the US, I learned in
grade school that you have to apply pressure to the exact right spot on
the corners, or else you wind up spending your lunch period fighting
with a carton containing substandard milk.
--
~Mike
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>> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
>
> If the ones in the UK are anything like the ones in the US, I learned in
> grade school that you have to apply pressure to the exact right spot on
> the corners, or else you wind up spending your lunch period fighting
> with a carton containing substandard milk.
There's a popular video clip [it's probably on YouTube] where the CEO of
some milk company came on TV to show you just how drop-dead easy it is
to open their new-fangled milk cartons.
He nearly dropped dead. :-D
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> > I would hazard a guess that it is not in fact carefully designed :-) It
> > just makes you want to get the CEO or MD to come and show you how to
> > open their packets!
>
> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
Yup. Got those here whith a nice embedded plastic opening, featuring a screw-on
cap, and an air-tight tear-off plastic seal with a plastic pull ring to pull
that seal out.
Although the mechanism appears quite sophisticated at first glance, every once
in a while one of those pull rings tears apart, forcing me to resort to more
barbaric ways of opening the carton.
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Invisible wrote:
>>> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
>>
>> If the ones in the UK are anything like the ones in the US, I learned
>> in grade school that you have to apply pressure to the exact right
>> spot on the corners, or else you wind up spending your lunch period
>> fighting with a carton containing substandard milk.
>
> There's a popular video clip [it's probably on YouTube] where the CEO of
> some milk company came on TV to show you just how drop-dead easy it is
> to open their new-fangled milk cartons.
>
> He nearly dropped dead. :-D
I remember a live TV demo when the fold-back cartons first came out,
maybe it's the one you're thinking of. The bloke giving the demo was
unable to pull out the top of the carton that you're meant to pour from,
so he ended up cutting the corner off with scissors and then folding it
down. This left a spike of cardboard in the middle, so, when he poured,
two distinct streams of milk flowed out sideways, missing the glass he
was aiming for.
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Am Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:02:18 +0100 schrieb Chris B:
> Invisible wrote:
>>>> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
>>>
>>> If the ones in the UK are anything like the ones in the US, I learned
>>> in grade school that you have to apply pressure to the exact right
>>> spot on the corners, or else you wind up spending your lunch period
>>> fighting with a carton containing substandard milk.
>>
>> There's a popular video clip [it's probably on YouTube] where the CEO
>> of some milk company came on TV to show you just how drop-dead easy it
>> is to open their new-fangled milk cartons.
>>
How to do it right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMbGJQR_uI
:) (BTW I personally think milk should contain at least 3.5% fat, but
YMMV)
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Am Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:15:32 +0100 schrieb Invisible:
>>> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
>>
>> If the ones in the UK are anything like the ones in the US, I learned
>> in grade school that you have to apply pressure to the exact right spot
>> on the corners, or else you wind up spending your lunch period fighting
>> with a carton containing substandard milk.
>
> There's a popular video clip [it's probably on YouTube] where the CEO of
> some milk company came on TV to show you just how drop-dead easy it is
> to open their new-fangled milk cartons.
>
> He nearly dropped dead. :-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-p8YpR7rJc
That one? Actually I think they shouldn't have gotten rid of this system
- for me it worked always quite well and is less garbage than the new
plastic screwed caps they use right now.
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:45:00 -0400, Florian Pesth wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMbGJQR_uI
I think I lost 50 IQ points just by watching this video....
> :) (BTW I personally think milk should contain at least 3.5% fat, but
> YMMV)
I agree. :)
Jim
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Florian Pesth <fpe### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> How to do it right:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMbGJQR_uI
That video looks stupid... until you see that other video which you
posted about the guy using scissors to try to open it, and failing.
--
- Warp
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Am Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:14:47 -0400 schrieb Warp:
> Florian Pesth <fpe### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>> How to do it right:
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMbGJQR_uI
>
> That video looks stupid... until you see that other video which you
> posted about the guy using scissors to try to open it, and failing.
I think they are two problems with that particular design (in general I
think the design works quite well - thats why the other video looks
stupid):
1. The flaps are to small to apply force at the edge (I think, they made
the folding part of the milk carton to small, maybe they did so in order
to reduce the height and therefore the storage space)
2. They don't trust the glue to be weak enough to tear open at the force
and rely on an overly complicated design where you have to remove the
glued strip part - this leads to a bad edge over which you can't pour the
milk.
In practize it has never been a problem for me, that the glue is to
strong.
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Florian Pesth <fpe### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> In practize it has never been a problem for me, that the glue is to
> strong.
All milk cartons are like that here. In other words:
http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135236128378.jpeg (1.5 litres of milk)
I don't know if they make it differently in other countries, but they are
quite easy to open, like in that video.
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> I don't know if they make it differently in other countries, but they are
> quite easy to open, like in that video.
As long as you get the right side, yes. :-)
We have like this in my part of the USA:
http://www.re-nest.com/uimages/re-nest/4-14-2009milk.jpg
http://www.wikihow.com/images/thumb/a/a4/Flowery-milk-carton-)-3936.jpg/250px-Flowery-milk-carton-)-3936.jpg
It comes sealed with a little pull-tab inside, like on a soda can, and the
cap keeps the air out, so it lasts a bit longer.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
back to version 1.0."
"We've done that already. We call it 2.0."
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> We have like this in my part of the USA:
> http://www.re-nest.com/uimages/re-nest/4-14-2009milk.jpg
>
http://www.wikihow.com/images/thumb/a/a4/Flowery-milk-carton-)-3936.jpg/250px-Flowery-milk-carton-)-3936.jpg
There are a few products in cartons like those here, but they are a small
minority. Usually if there's a cap, it's one of these:
http://www.marli.fi/mehut/marli/vitalit/images/10vitamiinia/purkki_10vitamiinia.jpg
--
- Warp
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