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From: Invisible
Subject: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 04:50:31
Message: <4a4c74d7$1@news.povray.org>
Just for giggles, I came to work today in casual jeans and trainers 
rather than my usual shirt and office trousers. I even spiked my hair.

The result is... interesting.

Part of me was worried I'd get fired - but hey, most of the lab staff 
turn up in jeans and a T-shirt every single day. Ah, but I don't work in 
the lab, I work in the office. But even so, that trainee project manager 
always looked like a builder, complete with the butt cleavage. (Mind 
you, he *did* get fired... but possibly because he was a useless twat 
who didn't do anything. Oh, wait...)

Another part of me was going with the oblivion theory: People have a 
surprising capacity to not notice things. Maybe nobody will notice my 
radically different look? I mean, I spend all day sitting alone in my 
office. It's not like anybody *sees* me. Maybe nobody will take any notice?

Well, I'm perfectly sure my mum would flip out if she knew I was at a 
place of work looking like a chav. But she's not here, so I don't care. 
:-P My dad got into the car this morning and didn't say a word. 
[Actually, yes he did. Something about "been plugging yourself into the 
mains again?"]

At work, things become more interesting. Quite a number of people 
actually paid no notice at all, as theorised. It's a bizare kind of 
feeling walking around looking like an escaped hobo and finding that 
NOBODY EVEN CARES. I guess that's just how insignificant I am. ;-)

Some people did notice, however. When I walked through the door, one 
ladie squeeled "ooo, you're looking cool today. Get you!" Ten minutes 
later, she tells me I have to go to the lab office because her mate 
wants to see my new look. Her mate's comment was "so what happened to 
the other Andrew then?" (I think I told her I'm his Evil Twin.)

If they weren't both married with school-aged children, I migth be 
excited. :-P

Our accountant seemed to like the effect too. She's wearing a little 
black skirt today, by the way. Nice, but not nearly as hot as the 
amazing brown dress she had on Monday. Ooooo... It was long and flowing, 
and it had a bit slit up the middle. Every time she walked past my 
office, I got to see her inside thigh. And she definitely has the figure 
(and the LEGS) for it! ;-)

Damnit, I need a girlfriend! :-(


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 05:36:05
Message: <4a4c7f85@news.povray.org>
> Just for giggles, I came to work today in casual jeans and trainers rather 
> than my usual shirt and office trousers. I even spiked my hair.

"Oh Andrew, I forgot to say, today the CEO of the entire company is visiting 
and wants to meet you."

I always dress smarter when I know senior people are visiting the office, 
but sometimes I get caught out and end up greeting some very senior person 
who is wearing a nice suit and tie while I'm in jeans and t-shirt.  I don't 
care what some people say, it just doesn't give the same impression.

Still, at least I didn't meet Prince Philip, and then get asked "Have you 
just got back from jogging?" like that Google employee :-)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 05:46:21
Message: <4a4c81ed$1@news.povray.org>
>> Just for giggles, I came to work today in casual jeans and trainers 
>> rather than my usual shirt and office trousers. I even spiked my hair.
> 
> "Oh Andrew, I forgot to say, today the CEO of the entire company is 
> visiting and wants to meet you."

Yeah, there's always the possibility that that's going to happen. ;-)

Still, if it does, it won't just be me who has a problem...

> Still, at least I didn't meet Prince Philip, and then get asked "Have 
> you just got back from jogging?" like that Google employee :-)

Eh. If I was working for Google, I might not care. (Legend has it that's 
a good place to work. Of course, it might not be true...)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 06:18:16
Message: <4a4c8968$1@news.povray.org>
>> "Oh Andrew, I forgot to say, today the CEO of the entire company is 
>> visiting and wants to meet you."
>
> Yeah, there's always the possibility that that's going to happen. ;-)
>
> Still, if it does, it won't just be me who has a problem...

Maybe everyone else knew :-)

> Eh. If I was working for Google, I might not care. (Legend has it that's a 
> good place to work. Of course, it might not be true...)

IME any company that makes a big healthy profit is a good place to work, 
employees (right up to senior management) just seem to have a completely 
different attitude about things when there is more money to play with.  If 
some of the things that go on here were informed to the people I used to 
work with at my old company they would just walk away laughing (like having 
to pay for your drink and partners food at the xmas dinner, or having to fly 
economy on a 12 hour flight).


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 08:45:00
Message: <web.4a4caad5e3c53435fd99d9e0@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Just for giggles, I came to work today in casual jeans and trainers
> rather than my usual shirt and office trousers. I even spiked my hair.
>
> The result is... interesting.
>
> If they weren't both married with school-aged children, I migth be
> excited. :-P
>

Age-ist! No wonder you are still looking for a girlfriend. What is wrong with
being someones toyboy?

Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 11:54:21
Message: <4a4cd82d$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> senior person who is wearing a nice suit and tie while I'm in jeans and 
> t-shirt. 

You need a casual look that's still smart. I go with Hawaiian shirts myself. 
I have a couple dozen shirts that would wake you up if I walked past in them.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 12:44:47
Message: <4a4ce3ff@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Just for giggles, I came to work today in casual jeans and trainers 
> rather than my usual shirt and office trousers. I even spiked my hair.

First sign you really have too much free time: Performing social 
experiments on your co-workers.

-- 
~Mike


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 12:53:42
Message: <4a4ce616$1@news.povray.org>
"scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote in message 
news:4a4c8968$1@news.povray.org...


> IME any company that makes a big healthy profit is a good place to work, 
> employees (right up to senior management) just seem to have a completely 
> different attitude about things when there is more money to play with.

    Yes, but have you seen how they make their money? There's 'healthy' and 
there's 'super-healthy'. It's no wonder they're raking it in. I'm not 
talking about Google Ads, (not sure what the turnover for those particular 
adverts would be), but I'm talking about Google Adwords, (the sponsored 
links above the main search results). Oh boy, they've cracked it with that 
one. It's the perfect plan - get everyone that uses it to bid against 
eachother. I couldn't imagine what two big companies in the same popular 
field would pay monthly for their hi-ranking ads but we use it and can 
*easily* get through £1000 per month, and that's for one (1) key-phrase, and 
we don't get a lot of return from that for a small company really.

   ~Steve~


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 20:36:24
Message: <4a4d5288$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:46:20 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> Legend has it that's
> a good place to work.

My wife's got at least one friend who works there who confirms it's a 
good place to work.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 2 Jul 2009 21:54:27
Message: <4a4d64d3$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> My wife's got at least one friend who works there who confirms it's a 
> good place to work.

 From what I saw of it, you'd either love it or hate it, at least as a 
programmer. I don't know about the other jobs.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 04:05:05
Message: <4a4dbbb1$1@news.povray.org>
>> senior person who is wearing a nice suit and tie while I'm in jeans 
>> and t-shirt. 
> 
> You need a casual look that's still smart. I go with Hawaiian shirts 
> myself. I have a couple dozen shirts that would wake you up if I walked 
> past in them.

I'm still puzzled by the number of people who seemed to think that me in 
denim jeans, a crumpled-up shirt and a set of trainers looked "smart". 
That wouldn't be how *I* would describe it...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 04:05:55
Message: <4a4dbbe3@news.povray.org>
>> Just for giggles, I came to work today in casual jeans and trainers
>> rather than my usual shirt and office trousers. I even spiked my hair.
>>
>> The result is... interesting.
>>
>> If they weren't both married with school-aged children, I migth be
>> excited. :-P
>>
> 
> Age-ist! No wonder you are still looking for a girlfriend. What is wrong with
> being someones toyboy?

...the point being that *they* wouldn't be interested, but that *I* 
wouldn't. :-P

(Second girly is God damned *hot*! Although... she's only little, but 
she has an attitude to make up for it... hmm...)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 04:06:10
Message: <4a4dbbf2$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> First sign you really have too much free time: Performing social 
> experiments on your co-workers.

Hahahaha! Nice. ;-)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 04:06:46
Message: <4a4dbc16$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Just for giggles, I came to work today in casual jeans and trainers 
> rather than my usual shirt and office trousers. I even spiked my hair.
> 
> The result is... interesting.

I announced this on Facebook, to cries of "pictures or it didn't happen".

So now I have a camera with me. >:-)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 04:33:40
Message: <4a4dc264$1@news.povray.org>
> Our accountant seemed to like the effect too. She's wearing a little 
> black skirt today, by the way. Nice, but not nearly as hot as the 
> amazing brown dress she had on Monday. Ooooo... It was long and flowing, 
> and it had a bit slit up the middle. Every time she walked past my 
> office, I got to see her inside thigh. And she definitely has the figure 
> (and the LEGS) for it! ;-)

OH MY GOD! SHE'S WEARING IT AGAIN TODAY!! O_O

Now is that because she knows I like it? Or just because she happened to 
feel like wearing it? :-.

> Damnit, I need a girlfriend! :-(

Hmm... yes...


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 05:06:45
Message: <4a4dca25$1@news.povray.org>
> OH MY GOD! SHE'S WEARING IT AGAIN TODAY!! O_O

"pictures or it didn't happen"


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 05:09:58
Message: <4a4dcae6$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> OH MY GOD! SHE'S WEARING IT AGAIN TODAY!! O_O
> 
> "pictures or it didn't happen"

Hahahaha.

Actually, I just got her to take a shot of me... I couldn't think of a 
geniune reason to turn the camera around. I suppose I could claim to be 
trying to set the shot up and "accidentally" shoot her... hmm, I'll have 
to think about that one...

I doubt I can find an excuse to shoot her thigh though. [And if I did 
pull that off, you would NOT be seeing the result. :-P ]


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 06:00:01
Message: <web.4a4dd5bee3c53435fd99d9e0@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> Just for giggles, I came to work today in casual jeans and trainers
> >> rather than my usual shirt and office trousers. I even spiked my hair.
> >>
> >> The result is... interesting.
> >>
> >> If they weren't both married with school-aged children, I migth be
> >> excited. :-P
> >>
> >
> > Age-ist! No wonder you are still looking for a girlfriend. What is wrong with
> > being someones toyboy?
>
> ...the point being that *they* wouldn't be interested, but that *I*
> wouldn't. :-P
>

Talk about being fussy ;)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 12:33:17
Message: <4a4e32cd$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:54:25 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> My wife's got at least one friend who works there who confirms it's a
>> good place to work.
> 
>  From what I saw of it, you'd either love it or hate it, at least as a
> programmer. I don't know about the other jobs.

That would make sense to me.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 13:04:55
Message: <4a4e3a37$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> I'm still puzzled by the number of people who seemed to think that me in 
> denim jeans, a crumpled-up shirt and a set of trainers looked "smart". 

It's a fashion statement. You're actually paying more attention to your 
clothes than you usually do. If they're clean, you're saying something about 
your personality that day.

BTW: "Trainers"? Is that what this side calls sneakers?

> That wouldn't be how *I* would describe it...

You're *trying* to look slummy, but you're still presentable for work, so 
it's "smart".

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 13:48:19
Message: <4a4e4463$1@news.povray.org>
>> I'm still puzzled by the number of people who seemed to think that me 
>> in denim jeans, a crumpled-up shirt and a set of trainers looked "smart". 
> 
> It's a fashion statement. You're actually paying more attention to your 
> clothes than you usually do. If they're clean, you're saying something 
> about your personality that day.

Just to mix thing up, I thought I'd go to work with a completely 
different look.

On the first day, it caused quite a stir. Interestingly, on the second 
day nobody took the slightest bit of notice. Funny how quickly the 
novelty fades, eh? (I guess after the initial shock, people remember 
that even though I look different, I'm still the same old boring geek 
that nobody actually likes...)

> BTW: "Trainers"? Is that what this side calls sneakers?

Conceivably.

http://www.uk.skechers.com/en/shoes/279

(Mind have tiny differences to this one.)

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 14:02:48
Message: <4a4e47c8@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:04:55 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> BTW: "Trainers"? Is that what this side calls sneakers?

Yup.  I think it's because in the UK it's short for "cross-trainers" 
which we're starting to see in stores here now as a type of "speciality 
sneaker".

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 14:16:12
Message: <4a4e4aec$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> On the first day, it caused quite a stir. Interestingly, on the second 
> day nobody took the slightest bit of notice. 

Because that's the new you, you see.

>> BTW: "Trainers"? Is that what this side calls sneakers?
> Conceivably.

Yes.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 14:17:43
Message: <4a4e4b47$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> Yup.  I think it's because in the UK it's short for "cross-trainers" 
> which we're starting to see in stores here now as a type of "speciality 
> sneaker".

They're called cross-trainers here too, if they're not designed for a 
specific sport. Otherwise we have basketball shoes (with a pivot in the 
treads under the balls of the feet), tennis shoes (which have no treads), 
running shoes and walking shoes (different heel designs), etc.

I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something else called trainers, like 
a type of shirt or some such. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 14:55:46
Message: <4a4e5432$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 
> Actually, I just got her to take a shot of me... I couldn't think of a
> geniune reason to turn the camera around. I suppose I could claim to be
> trying to set the shot up and "accidentally" shoot her... hmm, I'll have
> to think about that one...
> 

"The guys on the Internet want to see you."

-Aero


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 16:15:38
Message: <4A4E66E9.40206@hotmail.com>
On 3-7-2009 20:47, Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Actually, I just got her to take a shot of me... I couldn't think of a
>> geniune reason to turn the camera around. I suppose I could claim to be
>> trying to set the shot up and "accidentally" shoot her... hmm, I'll have
>> to think about that one...
>>
> 
> "The guys on the Internet want to see you."

bad idea. That could give somebody the idea of checking what Andy writes 
about the people in his company. Depending on the taste of humor of 
people working there, he might be looking for a job earlier than expected.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 18:33:15
Message: <4a4e872b@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> 
> bad idea. That could give somebody the idea of checking what Andy writes
> about the people in his company. Depending on the taste of humor of
> people working there, he might be looking for a job earlier than expected.

I agree. If I were him, I wouldn't give the group a photo. While he
can't actually be honest about the reason to take the photo, he
shouldn't do it at all.

-Aero


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 3 Jul 2009 19:53:28
Message: <4a4e99f8$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:25:12 +0300, Eero Ahonen wrote:

> andrel wrote:
>> 
>> bad idea. That could give somebody the idea of checking what Andy
>> writes about the people in his company. Depending on the taste of humor
>> of people working there, he might be looking for a job earlier than
>> expected.
> 
> I agree. If I were him, I wouldn't give the group a photo. While he
> can't actually be honest about the reason to take the photo, he
> shouldn't do it at all.

Well, that and technically if he wanted to take a picture of someone to 
post in a public space, he really should get their permission to do so 
first.  He wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of someone's anger 
over having their picture posted without permission.

Jim


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 02:52:21
Message: <4a4efc25@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
> Well, that and technically if he wanted to take a picture of someone to 
> post in a public space, he really should get their permission to do so 
> first.  He wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of someone's anger 
> over having their picture posted without permission.

Yes. That would make sure nobody likes him at work. That's why the only
possible answer to the question "why do want a photo of me" is the truth
in this kind of case.

> Jim

-Aero


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 02:59:37
Message: <4a4efdd9$1@news.povray.org>
>> Actually, I just got her to take a shot of me... I couldn't think of a
>> geniune reason to turn the camera around. I suppose I could claim to be
>> trying to set the shot up and "accidentally" shoot her... hmm, I'll have
>> to think about that one...
>>
> 
> "The guys on the Internet want to see you."

Ah yes, I can just see the look of horror on her face now... ;-)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 03:53:17
Message: <4a4f0a6d@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> I announced this on Facebook, to cries of "pictures or it didn't happen".
> 
> So now I have a camera with me. >:-)


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 04:50:32
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>> I announced this on Facebook, to cries of "pictures or it didn't happen".
>> 
>> So now I have a camera with me. >:-)

The trick to really looking fashionable is to change how
you dress based on occasions.
For example... only dress casual on Fridays, people
will notice that more than if you dress casual all week.
And it'll send a subconscious message to people that
you have something better to do on the weekend.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 06:39:43
Message: <4a4f316f$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
> 
>> I announced this on Facebook, to cries of "pictures or it didn't happen".
>>
>> So now I have a camera with me. >:-)
> 

You actually look pretty much like one of our IT-specialists.

-Aero


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 06:52:02
Message: <4A4F3452.6040003@hotmail.com>
On 4-7-2009 9:53, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
> 
>> I announced this on Facebook, to cries of "pictures or it didn't happen".
>>
>> So now I have a camera with me. >:-)
> 
>
I know your name is Andy and not 'Fire exit', but where does this arrow 
point to?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 06:54:47
Message: <f6du45hfsn5fgknfjq8a2i5p4ah45f75jj@4ax.com>
On 3 Jul 2009 14:02:48 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:04:55 -0700, Darren New wrote:
>
>> BTW: "Trainers"? Is that what this side calls sneakers?
>
>Yup.  I think it's because in the UK it's short for "cross-trainers" 
>which we're starting to see in stores here now as a type of "speciality 
>sneaker".
>

When I bought my first pair of trainers, here in the UK, nearly 40 years ago it
was short for training shoes. Before that we had sandshoes (gutties), plimsolls
(bumpers), tennis shoes and there are lots of regional variations on the names.
IIRC Bumpers were so called because they looked like bumper cars or dodgem cars.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 07:04:21
Message: <4a4f3735@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message 
news:f6du45hfsn5fgknfjq8a2i5p4ah45f75jj@4ax.com...

> plimsolls (bumpers),

   Interesting, I've never heard that one. We used to call them 'daps' - I 
have no idea why, but I believe the army used it around the Wiltshire area.


     ~Steve~





> Regards
>     Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 07:24:08
Message: <4a4f3bd8$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

> I know your name is Andy and not 'Fire exit', but where does this arrow 
> point to?

Hahahaha. Thanks; that just gave me a good giggle. :-D

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 07:26:02
Message: <4a4f3c4a@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:

> You actually look pretty much like one of our IT-specialists.

Really?

[I'm not sure if I should be pleased or worried...]

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 07:26:25
Message: <4a4f3c61$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Attwood wrote:

> Only dress casual on Fridays, people
> will notice that more than if you dress casual all week.
> And it'll send a subconscious message to people that
> you have something better to do on the weekend.

Mmm. It has a flavour...

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 07:35:05
Message: <sifu45lh3e1dbglmf4t4m2s83v67bv40gj@4ax.com>
On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:04:13 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>
>"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message 
>news:f6du45hfsn5fgknfjq8a2i5p4ah45f75jj@4ax.com...
>
>> plimsolls (bumpers),
>
>   Interesting, I've never heard that one. We used to call them 'daps' - I 
>have no idea why, but I believe the army used it around the Wiltshire area.
>
>

Bumpers was/is a west coast thing (I think) but I thought plimsolls was
generically English.
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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 09:07:01
Message: <4a4f53f5$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Eero Ahonen wrote:
> 
>> You actually look pretty much like one of our IT-specialists.
> 
> Really?

Yep. From the second image (the close-up) one can instantly tell that
you're not him, but from the first image one could be misleaded.

> [I'm not sure if I should be pleased or worried...]

I think neither.

-Aero


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 12:47:21
Message: <4a4f8799$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:31:40 +0300, Eero Ahonen wrote:

> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Invisible wrote:
>> 
>>> I announced this on Facebook, to cries of "pictures or it didn't
>>> happen".
>>>
>>> So now I have a camera with me. >:-)
>> 
>> 
> You actually look pretty much like one of our IT-specialists.

Same here.  It's a good look on you, Andy.

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 12:48:52
Message: <4a4f87f4@news.povray.org>
>> You actually look pretty much like one of our IT-specialists.
> 
> Same here.  It's a good look on you, Andy.

Just don't ask me out. :-P

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 4 Jul 2009 12:51:00
Message: <4a4f8874$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:48:55 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>>> You actually look pretty much like one of our IT-specialists.
>> 
>> Same here.  It's a good look on you, Andy.
> 
> Just don't ask me out. :-P

I think my wife might object. ;-)  Still, that doesn't mean we can't go 
out for that beer/Dr. Pepper when I get over there next time.  It's just 
proving to take us longer to get there because of the economy and our 
finances...

Jim


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 5 Jul 2009 15:23:56
Message: <4a50fdcc$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Just for giggles, I came to work today in casual jeans and trainers 
>> rather than my usual shirt and office trousers. I even spiked my hair.
> 
> First sign you really have too much free time: Performing social 
> experiments on your co-workers.
> 

If the social experiment has to do with dating, it's a perfectly valid 
use for your time.

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Chambers


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From: Sven Geier
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 8 Jul 2009 14:40:00
Message: <web.4a54e77ce3c53435b4449250@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

> At work, things become more interesting. Quite a number of people
> actually paid no notice at all, as theorised. It's a bizare kind of
> feeling walking around looking like an escaped hobo and finding that
> NOBODY EVEN CARES. I guess that's just how insignificant I am. ;-)

Well - if they know you and they know you do good work -- why would they care
one way or the other what you're wearing? I will admit that my *expectations*
of someone's performance *might* be colorable by their choice of attire; but
once I know what to expect from someone -- why would I pay any further
attention to their outfits?

> Damnit, I need a girlfriend! :-(

That's usually a good way to distract someone from social experiments at the
workplace, yes... ;-)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 8 Jul 2009 15:49:02
Message: <4a54f82e$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:37:48 -0400, Sven Geier wrote:

> Well - if they know you and they know you do good work -- why would they
> care one way or the other what you're wearing?

Some companies (and managers) do care.  When we're in the office working 
where I work, my team is expected to not be wearing jeans, shorts, t-
shirts, etc.  "Professional dress code" is ours.  But others on other 
teams in my building have a different standard.

Another reason I like working from home.

Jim


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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 11 Jul 2009 08:29:19
Message: <4a58859f$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>> Our accountant seemed to like the effect too. She's wearing a little 
>> black skirt today, by the way. Nice, but not nearly as hot as the 
>> amazing brown dress she had on Monday. Ooooo... It was long and 
>> flowing, and it had a bit slit up the middle. Every time she walked 
>> past my office, I got to see her inside thigh. And she definitely has 
>> the figure (and the LEGS) for it! ;-)
> 
> OH MY GOD! SHE'S WEARING IT AGAIN TODAY!! O_O
> 
> Now is that because she knows I like it? Or just because she happened to 
> feel like wearing it? :-.
> 
>> Damnit, I need a girlfriend! :-(
> 
> Hmm... yes...

So have you asked if she would like to join you at the next Haskell user 
group meeting, or a Sunday brunch at a cafe by the park, yet?


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 22 Jul 2009 06:28:19
Message: <4a66e9c3$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Attwood wrote:

> The trick to really looking fashionable is to change how
> you dress based on occasions.
> For example... only dress casual on Fridays, people
> will notice that more than if you dress casual all week.
> And it'll send a subconscious message to people that
> you have something better to do on the weekend.

Well, I tried this, and it seems to be working. (Or at least being 
noticed...) Every Friday I come dressed down. Yesterday somebody 
mentioned it.

Ah yes, that was fun... Yesterday I walked into the tearoom, and one of 
the girls looked at me and hung her head in her hands, *crying* with mirth.

For about 10 minutes.

Apparently my trousers are too short. Well, whatever. Anyway, the girl 
next to her complained that I should wear something more trendy, and the 
first girl says "oh, he does a dress-down Friday every week".

So apparently I'm not as invisible as I thought. Well anyway, I'm 
dressed down today, and second girly seemed to approve. (Hey, just 
walking into the tearoom and got getting laughed at was good enough for 
me...)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Rebel without a cause
Date: 22 Jul 2009 07:25:54
Message: <4a66f742@news.povray.org>
> Apparently my trousers are too short. Well, whatever.

Well take that as an opportunity to buy some proper-length ones and then ask 
her if they are better.  That lets her know that you are paying attention to 
her.


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