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"In the beginning . . . we were ordinary street rats. Stealing our daily
bread and living off the efforts of Man's work.
We were captured. Put in cages and sent to a place called NIMH.
Where were many animals there . . . in cages . . .
We were put through the most unspeakable tortures . . . To satisfy some
scientific curiosity. Often at night, I would hear them crying out in
anguish.
20 rats and 11 mice were given injections.
Our world began *changing* . . . "
And with that, the sinister undertones of the orchestra begin to
gradually build into a terrifying crescendo. The discordant brasses
restlessly climb the scale through a succession of bizare key
modulations. A torrent of strings rain down. And all the while, the
relentless hammering of the xylophone ticks away in the background.
In front of me, the TV screen is covered by rats and mice, writhing in
agony, raining down into an infinite black pit in the center of the
view. Abstract patterns and elaborate kaleidoscopic geometry spiral
outwards hypnotically. And now we see a rat in closeup, and the
cacophony of orchestral wrath is joined by a thunderous heartbeat. Now
sound and vision go completely crazy; spinning rainbow-coloured patterns
and frenetic chromatic scales, crashes of thunder and arcs of lightning,
and still that cavernous heartbeat. The visuals cut rapidly from shot to
shot, and the orchestra builts to a final histerical pinnacle...
And then . . . a b s o l u t e s i l e n c e . . . . .
At this point, I'm five-and-a-half years old, my little sister is four,
and we're both sitting on the sofa absolutely rigid. Astounded,
terrified, and yet... mesmerised. What the HELL is going to happen next?
To answer that... you must watch the film. ;-)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> To answer that... you must watch the film. ;-)
Ooooooo! Spaaaaarrkly!
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Insanity is a small city on the western
border of the State of Mind.
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>> To answer that... you must watch the film. ;-)
>
>
> Ooooooo! Spaaaaarrkly!
Heh. OK, you may think it's silly and childish. But it's hard-wired into
my memory. When I was a child, I used to watch it three or four times
PER WEEK. (Remember, to a child, 5 minutes is like 17 lifetimes.) I've
memorised every scene, every sentence of dialogue, every inflection in
the character's voices, every note and neaunce of the score... This film
is part of what makes Andrew... well, Andrew.
(Or, arguably, part of what makes Andrew... suck.)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> To answer that... you must watch the film. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Ooooooo! Spaaaaarrkly!
>
> Heh. OK, you may think it's silly and childish.
Not at all. It's a great movie, and a great book as well.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Insanity is a small city on the western
border of the State of Mind.
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>> Heh. OK, you may think it's silly and childish.
>
> Not at all. It's a great movie, and a great book as well.
A great movie, even if it does diverge drastically from the book, and
even fail to completely make sense in places...
It's not you're typical cartoon though. Intricate orchestral scoring,
lavish background painting, visual effects such as blurred reflection,
glitter, light blooms, detailed animation... it's an audio-visual feast!
In other news... I now have the DVD. I can't help noticing that the
picture seems to constantly "shake" slightly... WTF?
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> It's not you're typical cartoon though.
I'll have to hunt this up and watch it again. :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Insanity is a small city on the western
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On 22-6-2009 21:16, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> "In the beginning . . . we were ordinary street rats. Stealing our daily
> bread and living off the efforts of Man's work.
>
> We were captured. Put in cages and sent to a place called NIMH.
>
> Where were many animals there . . . in cages . . .
>
> We were put through the most unspeakable tortures . . . To satisfy some
> scientific curiosity. Often at night, I would hear them crying out in
> anguish.
>
> 20 rats and 11 mice were given injections.
>
> Our world began *changing* . . . "
>
>
>
> And with that, the sinister undertones of the orchestra begin to
> gradually build into a terrifying crescendo. The discordant brasses
> restlessly climb the scale through a succession of bizare key
> modulations. A torrent of strings rain down. And all the while, the
> relentless hammering of the xylophone ticks away in the background.
>
> In front of me, the TV screen is covered by rats and mice, writhing in
> agony, raining down into an infinite black pit in the center of the
> view. Abstract patterns and elaborate kaleidoscopic geometry spiral
> outwards hypnotically. And now we see a rat in closeup, and the
> cacophony of orchestral wrath is joined by a thunderous heartbeat. Now
> sound and vision go completely crazy; spinning rainbow-coloured patterns
> and frenetic chromatic scales, crashes of thunder and arcs of lightning,
> and still that cavernous heartbeat. The visuals cut rapidly from shot to
> shot, and the orchestra builts to a final histerical pinnacle...
>
>
> And then . . . a b s o l u t e s i l e n c e . . . . .
>
>
> At this point, I'm five-and-a-half years old, my little sister is four,
> and we're both sitting on the sofa absolutely rigid. Astounded,
> terrified, and yet... mesmerised. What the HELL is going to happen next?
>
> To answer that... you must watch the film. ;-)
>
What film? I have not a clue what this is about. Darren seems to know,
so it is not only a UK thing. After that: blank.
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> What film? I have not a clue what this is about. Darren seems to know,
> so it is not only a UK thing. After that: blank.
Indeed, it's an American film even... Critically acclaimed, but
commercially less successful.
There's one key word in that quotation that should be Googlable. (And,
weirdly, it apparently exists in the real world as well as in this
fictional one...)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On 22-6-2009 22:29, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> What film? I have not a clue what this is about. Darren seems to know,
>> so it is not only a UK thing. After that: blank.
>
> Indeed, it's an American film even... Critically acclaimed, but
> commercially less successful.
>
> There's one key word in that quotation that should be Googlable. (And,
> weirdly, it apparently exists in the real world as well as in this
> fictional one...)
>
Googling leads me to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISNz7lWAzd8
but the quote does not seem to crop up, al least not in the first few
minutes.
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andrel wrote:
> On 22-6-2009 22:29, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> What film? I have not a clue what this is about. Darren seems to
>>> know, so it is not only a UK thing. After that: blank.
>>
>> Indeed, it's an American film even... Critically acclaimed, but
>> commercially less successful.
>>
>> There's one key word in that quotation that should be Googlable. (And,
>> weirdly, it apparently exists in the real world as well as in this
>> fictional one...)
>>
> Googling leads me to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISNz7lWAzd8
> but the quote does not seem to crop up, al least not in the first few
> minutes.
Oh Jesus... It's, like, 45 minutes in or something! It's in the middle
of the film!
But yay, that's the film.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On 22-6-2009 22:45, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> On 22-6-2009 22:29, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> What film? I have not a clue what this is about. Darren seems to
>>>> know, so it is not only a UK thing. After that: blank.
>>>
>>> Indeed, it's an American film even... Critically acclaimed, but
>>> commercially less successful.
>>>
>>> There's one key word in that quotation that should be Googlable.
>>> (And, weirdly, it apparently exists in the real world as well as in
>>> this fictional one...)
>>>
>> Googling leads me to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISNz7lWAzd8
>> but the quote does not seem to crop up, al least not in the first few
>> minutes.
>
> Oh Jesus... It's, like, 45 minutes in or something! It's in the middle
> of the film!
>
It is just that I got the impression that it was how it started. For
reference to non-copyright sensitive people: 5 minutes 53 into
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsb9bPbI7PQ
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andrel wrote:
> What film?
It's a Secret.
> a place called NIMH
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Insanity is a small city on the western
border of the State of Mind.
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andrel wrote:
> 5 minutes 53 into
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsb9bPbI7PQ
Oooo. A sparkly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C0vvrJ6J20&fmt=18#t=5m55s
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Insanity is a small city on the western
border of the State of Mind.
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Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> What film?
>
> It's a Secret.
>
> > a place called NIMH
...which, worryingly, appears to actually exist...
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Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> 5 minutes 53 into http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsb9bPbI7PQ
>
>
> Oooo. A sparkly!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C0vvrJ6J20&fmt=18#t=5m55s
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>
>
You know, this was the first of these links I actually opened. Add up
geeky mind, sparkly and NiMH (from the topic of the page, seen before
the film itself) and I expected something else than a cartoon ;).
-Aero
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>
> A great movie, even if it does diverge drastically from the book, and
> even fail to completely make sense in places...
>
Is the book named the same or is it "Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH"?
If it's Mrs. Frisby..., I've red the book yeaaars ago.
-Aero
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>> A great movie, even if it does diverge drastically from the book, and
>> even fail to completely make sense in places...
>
> Is the book named the same or is it "Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH"?
> If it's Mrs. Frisby..., I've red the book yeaaars ago.
Yeah, that's the one.
Neat, isn't it?
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Invisible wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's the one.
>
> Neat, isn't it?
Yep, the main parts I can remember :). I think I'll need to see the film.
-Aero
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Heh. OK, you may think it's silly and childish. But it's hard-wired into
> my memory. When I was a child, I used to watch it three or four times
> PER WEEK. (Remember, to a child, 5 minutes is like 17 lifetimes.) I've
> memorised every scene, every sentence of dialogue, every inflection in
> the character's voices, every note and neaunce of the score... This film
> is part of what makes Andrew... well, Andrew.
>
> (Or, arguably, part of what makes Andrew... suck.)
It's been a while since I've seen this film. I must watch it again, now :)
Definitely a favorite of mine. It was beautifully animated, IIRC.
I should read the book one of these days.
--
~Mike
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> There's one key word in that quotation that should be Googlable. (And,
> weirdly, it apparently exists in the real world as well as in this
> fictional one...)
Yep. Upon discovering that, I remember thinking, "Oh my, it does exist!"
--
~Mike
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Invisible wrote:
> ...which, worryingly, appears to actually exist...
Yes. The National Institute of Mental Health.. :-D
Now... what do you suppose they were doing with super-intelligent rats?
--
~Mike
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>> ...which, worryingly, appears to actually exist...
>
> Yes. The National Institute of Mental Health.. :-D
>
> Now... what do you suppose they were doing with super-intelligent rats?
According to the notes on the book, there was a "N.I.H." that were doing
experiments with rats, and they "preferred them wild rather than tame".
If you read the book, you'll see the modestly close fit there.
Of course, the film is even more of a work of fiction than the book
is... A truly great film, but even I have to admit parts of it make no
sense. (I just love the way when Nichodemus is around, objects just
casually levitate through thin air... I mean, that totally happens, right?)
--
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