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From: Darren New
Subject: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 15 Jun 2009 20:17:24
Message: <4a36e494$1@news.povray.org>
... about those surveys that say Americans don't know where various 
countries are on a globe.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/15/body.knowledge.survey/index.html

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 04:31:20
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Darren New wrote:
> ... about those surveys that say Americans don't know where various 
> countries are on a globe.

In fairness, I would suggest it's fairly common knowledge that your 
heart is located in your ribcage, but *precisely* where? I wouldn't 
know. And exactly how lage? Nope, not really sure.

Most doctors, presumably, would know this though. :-P


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 08:20:01
Message: <web.4a378cd3b5e3a7b15fd99d9e0@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> > ... about those surveys that say Americans don't know where various
> > countries are on a globe.
>
> In fairness, I would suggest it's fairly common knowledge that your
> heart is located in your ribcage,

Ouch!

Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 12:07:30
Message: <4a37c342@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> ... about those surveys that say Americans don't know where various 
>> countries are on a globe.
> 
> In fairness, I would suggest it's fairly common knowledge that your 
> heart is located in your ribcage, but *precisely* where? I wouldn't 
> know. And exactly how lage? Nope, not really sure.

http://www.hobbytron.com/human-body-model-visible-man.html

It's also common knowledge that Switzerland is in western Europe somewhere. 
Exactly where? I wouldn't know. Precisely how large? Not really sure.

Same thing, really. :-)

In my defense, anything more than 1000 miles away is all in the same place, 
namely, the airport. ;-)

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 14:32:13
Message: <4a37e52d@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> http://www.hobbytron.com/human-body-model-visible-man.html

Now I'm wondering what the hell the difference between "visible man" and 
"visible woman" is... o_O

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 15:47:47
Message: <4a37f6e3@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 
> Now I'm wondering what the hell the difference between "visible man" and 
> "visible woman" is... o_O
> 

I would imagine there would be significant difference in the 
reproductive tract.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 15:58:32
Message: <4a37f968$1@news.povray.org>
>> Now I'm wondering what the hell the difference between "visible man" 
>> and "visible woman" is... o_O
> 
> I would imagine there would be significant difference in the 
> reproductive tract.

Have you seen the size of the models? Would such a difference actually 
be noticable? :-P

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 16:15:31
Message: <4A37FD64.8020402@hotmail.com>
On 16-6-2009 2:17, Darren New wrote:
> ... about those surveys that say Americans don't know where various 
> countries are on a globe.

Another thing in defence of Americans: Europeans have just as much 
trouble locating US states and Canadian provinces. If there is news of, 
say, a school shooting many Europeans will not know much better than 
that something happened in the US. About as informative as knowing that 
  Vaduz is in Europe.
It would only get a little embarrassing if a European head of state 
would suggest that e.g. Atlanta is the capital of San Francisco. That 
sort of magnitude of confusion is more typical USA.


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 17:36:52
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> 
>> http://www.hobbytron.com/human-body-model-visible-man.html
> 
> Now I'm wondering what the hell the difference between "visible man" and
> "visible woman" is... o_O
> 

Chin, ribcase, waist and hip at least. And yeah, hands and shoulders also.

-Aero


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 18:27:33
Message: <4a381c55$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Darren New wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.hobbytron.com/human-body-model-visible-man.html
>> Now I'm wondering what the hell the difference between "visible man" and
>> "visible woman" is... o_O
>>
> 
> Chin, ribcase, waist and hip at least. And yeah, hands and shoulders also.

Well, there's lots of differences all over between men and women. Not really 
in the models, tho. It's not like they have the adam's apple or the brow 
ridge molded in, at least not big enough to be obvious.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 16 Jun 2009 18:31:50
Message: <4a381d56$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/16/09 15:15, andrel wrote:
> that something happened in the US. About as informative as knowing that
> Vaduz is in Europe.

	Never heard of it.

-- 
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 00:14:00
Message: <4a386d88@news.povray.org>
"Mueen Nawaz" <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote in message 
news:4a381d56$1@news.povray.org...
> On 06/16/09 15:15, andrel wrote:
>> that something happened in the US. About as informative as knowing that
>> Vaduz is in Europe.
>
> Never heard of it.


Vaduz or Europe? :)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 07:14:40
Message: <4a38d020@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> Chin, ribcase, waist and hip at least. And yeah, hands and shoulders also.

  A paleontologist is able to immediately tell if a human skeleton is of
a male or a female, so there are definite clear differences.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 07:21:18
Message: <4a38d1ad@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Another thing in defence of Americans: Europeans have just as much 
> trouble locating US states and Canadian provinces.

  I'm somewhat convinced that most western Europeans (or at least most
Finns, as I can't really speak for all Europeans) can name and locate
(or at least get close) on a nameless map more US states than most
Americans can name and locate European countries. Principally Hollywood,
and secondarily general geographical education, do have their influence.

  Now the Canadian provinces are much harder. They are not very prominently
used in movies not TV shows, so...

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 07:45:00
Message: <web.4a38d650b5e3a7b15fd99d9e0@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> > Chin, ribcase, waist and hip at least. And yeah, hands and shoulders also.
>
>   A paleontologist is able to immediately tell if a human skeleton is of
> a male or a female, so there are definite clear differences.
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelvis#Sex_differences

Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 08:19:40
Message: <4a38df5c$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
>> Chin, ribcase, waist and hip at least. And yeah, hands and shoulders also.
> 
>   A paleontologist is able to immediately tell if a human skeleton is of
> a male or a female, so there are definite clear differences.

A pathoentologist probably examines skeletons somewhat larger than 7 
inches. ;-)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 09:21:26
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> A pathoentologist probably examines skeletons somewhat larger than 7 
> inches. ;-)

  The differences are not that small.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 10:14:39
Message: <4a38fa4f$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/16/09 23:13, Ken wrote:
> "Mueen Nawaz" <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote in message
> news:4a381d56$1@news.povray.org...
>> On 06/16/09 15:15, andrel wrote:
>>> that something happened in the US. About as informative as knowing that
>>> Vaduz is in Europe.
>>
>> Never heard of it.
>
> Vaduz or Europe? :)

	LOL.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 11:39:21
Message: <4a390e29$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   A paleontologist is able to immediately tell if a human skeleton is of
> a male or a female, so there are definite clear differences.

It's not hard even with the skin on. Press your fingers to your eyebrow and 
rub up and down a bit, and you'll feel a little bit of a ridge. Now do that 
to your wife/girlfriend/secretary(slap! ;-) and you'll notice there is no 
ridge there. For example.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 11:42:19
Message: <4a390edb@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> It's not hard even with the skin on. Press your fingers to your eyebrow 
> and rub up and down a bit, and you'll feel a little bit of a ridge. Now 
> do that to your wife/girlfriend/secretary(slap! ;-) and you'll notice 
> there is no ridge there. For example.

OK, own up: How many of you just poked yourselves in the eye? ;-)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 11:42:40
Message: <4a390ef0$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   I'm somewhat convinced 

I would tend to agree with that.

I had a professor who would put up a slide at conferences saying he's from 
the University of Delaware. Now, Delaware is a state that isn't even big 
enough to have its own telephone area code (aka "city code"). So he'd say 
"It's about halfway between Philadelphia and Baltimore. If you don't know 
where they are, it's halfway between New York and Washington DC. If you 
don't know where they are, we're from America."  :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 12:43:12
Message: <4A391D23.1080208@hotmail.com>
On 17-6-2009 6:13, Ken wrote:
> 
> "Mueen Nawaz" <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote in message 
> news:4a381d56$1@news.povray.org...
>> On 06/16/09 15:15, andrel wrote:
>>> that something happened in the US. About as informative as knowing that
>>> Vaduz is in Europe.
>>
>> Never heard of it.
> 
> 
> Vaduz or Europe? :)
Vaduz is the capital of Liechtenstein. Liechtenstein is a country in 
Europe with almost 35000 inhabitants and an area of 160km^2. In 
contrast: Delaware 800000+ inhabitants and 6452 km^2.

Europe is the western part of Eurasia, it is north of Africa. Either 
west or east from North America.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 12:43:20
Message: <4a391d28@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Now do that to your wife/girlfriend/secretary(slap! ;-)

  I would, if I had one... :P

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                                                          - Warp


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 12:49:58
Message: <4A391EBA.5080902@hotmail.com>
On 17-6-2009 18:43, Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Now do that to your wife/girlfriend/secretary(slap! ;-)
> 
>   I would, if I had one... :P
> 
What, you don't have a secretary?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 12:52:50
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> On 17-6-2009 18:43, Warp wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> Now do that to your wife/girlfriend/secretary(slap! ;-)
> > 
> >   I would, if I had one... :P
> > 
> What, you don't have a secretary?

  Nope. Nor any of those two other things either.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 12:57:34
Message: <4A392082.8060203@hotmail.com>
On 17-6-2009 18:52, Warp wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> On 17-6-2009 18:43, Warp wrote:
>>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>>> Now do that to your wife/girlfriend/secretary(slap! ;-)
>>>   I would, if I had one... :P
>>>
>> What, you don't have a secretary?
> 
>   Nope. Nor any of those two other things either.
> 
Although technically not mine, I can choose from three and one for which 
the test won't work. Then again I also have a wife. What is missing is a 
girlfriend or I would have had a full house.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 12:58:29
Message: <4A3920B8.7030903@hotmail.com>
On 17-6-2009 18:57, andrel wrote:
> On 17-6-2009 18:52, Warp wrote:
>> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>> On 17-6-2009 18:43, Warp wrote:
>>>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>>>> Now do that to your wife/girlfriend/secretary(slap! ;-)
>>>>   I would, if I had one... :P
>>>>
>>> What, you don't have a secretary?
>>
>>   Nope. Nor any of those two other things either.
>>
> Although technically not mine, I can choose from three and one for which 
> the test won't work. Then again I also have a wife. What is missing is a 
> girlfriend or I would have had a full house.
> 
hmm, I think that 'which' should have been a 'who'.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 13:26:18
Message: <4a39273a$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> hmm, I think that 'which' should have been a 'who'.

"Whom", if you really want to be picky. :-)

-- 
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   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 14:19:45
Message: <4A3933C1.9080506@hotmail.com>
On 17-6-2009 19:26, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> hmm, I think that 'which' should have been a 'who'.
> 
> "Whom", if you really want to be picky. :-)
> 
I was thinking about that. Is that old-fashioned or still current?


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 14:19:56
Message: <4a3933cc$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:42:18 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> Darren New wrote:
> 
>> It's not hard even with the skin on. Press your fingers to your eyebrow
>> and rub up and down a bit, and you'll feel a little bit of a ridge. Now
>> do that to your wife/girlfriend/secretary(slap! ;-) and you'll notice
>> there is no ridge there. For example.
> 
> OK, own up: How many of you just poked yourselves in the eye? ;-)

Not me, I am wearing eye protection. :-)

Jim


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 14:21:36
Message: <4a393430@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> 
> Well, there's lots of differences all over between men and women. Not
> really in the models, tho. It's not like they have the adam's apple or
> the brow ridge molded in, at least not big enough to be obvious.
> 

Yes. My list was based purely on the photo on the linked page.

-Aero


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 14:25:30
Message: <4a39351a$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
>
> Although technically not mine, I can choose from three and one for which
> the test won't work. Then again I also have a wife. What is missing is a
> girlfriend or I would have had a full house.
> 

If you did have a girlfriend, you'd have a black eye instead of a wife.

-Aero


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 17 Jun 2009 17:23:21
Message: <4a395ec9$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> On 17-6-2009 19:26, Darren New wrote:
>> andrel wrote:
>>> hmm, I think that 'which' should have been a 'who'.
>>
>> "Whom", if you really want to be picky. :-)
>>
> I was thinking about that. Is that old-fashioned or still current?

I don't think correct English ever goes out of style. The incorrect English 
just comes into style. :-)

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   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 18 Jun 2009 13:26:37
Message: <4a3a78cc$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Now I'm wondering what the hell the difference between "visible man"
>>> and "visible woman" is... o_O
>> 
>> I would imagine there would be significant difference in the
>> reproductive tract.
> 
> Have you seen the size of the models? Would such a difference actually
> be noticable? :-P

I think the *internal* reproductive organs are bigger than you think.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 18 Jun 2009 15:48:08
Message: <4a3a99f8$1@news.povray.org>
>> Have you seen the size of the models? Would such a difference actually
>> be noticable? :-P
> 
> I think the *internal* reproductive organs are bigger than you think.

Well, maybe. I'm not an expert in this field...

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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 18 Jun 2009 16:58:09
Message: <4a3aaa61$1@news.povray.org>
> It's not hard even with the skin on. Press your fingers to your eyebrow 
> and rub up and down a bit, and you'll feel a little bit of a ridge. Now do 
> that to your wife/girlfriend/secretary(slap! ;-) and you'll notice there 
> is no ridge there. For example.

If it's not your wife/girlfriend/secretary,
then you might need to pay extra to poke em. =P


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 18 Jun 2009 21:44:45
Message: <4a3aed8d@news.povray.org>
> ... about those surveys that say Americans don't know where various 
> countries are on a globe.

Funnily enough I overheard an American woman talking to a Finnish girl on a 
plane from Amsterdam to Detroit this week.  The woman asked the girl why she 
was on this plane, as wouldn't it be shorter to go "the other way round, 
past Australia".  Later the girl said that the flight from Helsinki to 
Amsterdam had been about 2 hours, and the woman didn't seem to understand, 
it was as if she really thought Finland was near Japan or something.


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 19 Jun 2009 09:08:50
Message: <4a3b8de2$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> Funnily enough I overheard an American woman talking to a Finnish girl 
> on a plane from Amsterdam to Detroit this week.  The woman asked the 
> girl why she was on this plane, as wouldn't it be shorter to go "the 
> other way round, past Australia".  Later the girl said that the flight 
> from Helsinki to Amsterdam had been about 2 hours, and the woman didn't 
> seem to understand, it was as if she really thought Finland was near 
> Japan or something.

:facepalm:

As the old saying goes, "It's better to be quite and thought a fool than 
to open your mouth and remove all doubt"



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~Mike


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 19 Jun 2009 13:05:09
Message: <4a3bc545@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> As the old saying goes, "It's better to be quite and thought a fool than 
> to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

Would now be a bad time to point out a spelling mistake?

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Suddenly I don't feel so bad...
Date: 19 Jun 2009 14:02:01
Message: <4a3bd299$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> 
> Would now be a bad time to point out a spelling mistake?
> 

Yes. yes it would be.

-- 
~Mike


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