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From: Darren New
Subject: How cool is that?
Date: 30 May 2009 00:22:20
Message: <4a20b47c$1@news.povray.org>
vim can open a zip file and browse it in directory mode. I never knew.
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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: How cool is that?
Date: 30 May 2009 03:26:08
Message: <4a20df90@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> vim can open a zip file and browse it in directory mode. I never knew.

Remember, it's Vim, so it's better than Emacs. If it's better than
Emacs, it has to do incredible things, even though it's a lot smaller
than Emacs.

;)

-Aero


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: How cool is that?
Date: 30 May 2009 11:52:44
Message: <4a21564c$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> vim can open a zip file and browse it in directory mode. I never knew.

	Can it save edits within the zip file? That would be cool.

	Do you use mc (midnight commander)? I use it for this kind of stuff.
Whenever I get a UNIX account somewhere (hosting, etc) and they don't
have mc installed, I give them hell.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How cool is that?
Date: 30 May 2009 16:49:04
Message: <4a219bc0$1@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> vim can open a zip file and browse it in directory mode. I never knew.
> 
> 	Can it save edits within the zip file? That would be cool.

It seems to yes!  I never would have thought to try it. :-)

> 	Do you use mc (midnight commander)? I use it for this kind of stuff.

Errr, no. I just use the command line on Linux.

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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: How cool is that?
Date: 30 May 2009 17:04:24
Message: <4a219f58$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

>>     Do you use mc (midnight commander)? I use it for this kind of stuff.
> 
> Errr, no. I just use the command line on Linux.

	Missing out...

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How cool is that?
Date: 30 May 2009 17:09:46
Message: <4a21a09a$1@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> 
>>>     Do you use mc (midnight commander)? I use it for this kind of stuff.
>> Errr, no. I just use the command line on Linux.
> 
> 	Missing out...

I'll check it out. All the other graphical file browsers on Linux are 
suckfull to painfulness.  Altho the kinds of things I do on Linux tend to be 
different that the kinds of things I do on Linux, so...

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: How cool is that?
Date: 31 May 2009 00:42:59
Message: <4a220ad3$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>> Darren New wrote:
>>
>>>>     Do you use mc (midnight commander)? I use it for this kind of
>>>> stuff.
>>> Errr, no. I just use the command line on Linux.
>>
>>     Missing out...
> 
> I'll check it out. All the other graphical file browsers on Linux are

	It's curses based. But I guess technically, it's still graphical. I'm
not a commandline guru, but for whatever mc can do, I'm fairly sure it
can do it faster than typing stuff out. Assuming you're just using the
keyboard. My only real complaint is that there's no key binding for
sorting by size, etc. You can do it via a menu, but that's a headache.
Norton Commander had it, so why not this?

> suckfull to painfulness.  Altho the kinds of things I do on Linux tend
> to be different that the kinds of things I do on Linux, so...

	?

	Either you need to sleep, or I do.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How cool is that?
Date: 31 May 2009 15:05:34
Message: <4a22d4fe$1@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> 	It's curses based. But I guess technically, it's still graphical.

I would think so.

> not a commandline guru, but for whatever mc can do, I'm fairly sure it
> can do it faster than typing stuff out. 

That's just it. I wouldn't expect mc easily does the kinds of operations I 
tend to wind up having to do under Linux.  Like, "find me all the files that 
have this string in them and show me the next line" or "find me the files 
that are in this directory tree whose names don't show up anywhere in that 
directory tree."  Cross compiling is *such* a joy sometimes.

> 	Either you need to sleep, or I do.

You know what I meant. :-)

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: How cool is that?
Date: 1 Jun 2009 01:48:59
Message: <4a236bcb$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
>> not a commandline guru, but for whatever mc can do, I'm fairly sure it
>> can do it faster than typing stuff out. 
> 
> That's just it. I wouldn't expect mc easily does the kinds of operations
> I tend to wind up having to do under Linux.  Like, "find me all the

	Yeah, but the cool thing about mc is that you still have the command
line at the bottom of the screen/window. Just type out the command as
you would normally. Hit ^O to make the panels go away in case you want
to easily read the output (and ^O to get them back).


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: How cool is that?
Date: 1 Jun 2009 12:50:59
Message: <4a2406f3@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> vim can open a zip file and browse it in directory mode. I never knew.

  I usually use (gnu) less to examine the contents of zip files (and almost
any other packed format). It lists the files with some info about them
(rather than raw characters).

  However, if you really want coolness, nothing beats the file completion
feature in zsh. Just a few examples:

* Relatively simple: Suppose you have a bunch of files in the current
  directory and all of them have og+r permissions, except one which
  doesn't. You write "chmod og+r " and press tab, and zsh
  intelligently completes to that one file for which the command makes
  sense.

* Still relatively simple: Suppose that you are inside a directory
  which has many files, but only one of them is a pdf. You write
  "acroread " and press tab, and it will complete to that pdf file.

* Getting warmer: Write "unzip somefile.zip " and then press tab, and it
  will start completing to file names inside the zip file.

* Medium: You write, for example, "mplayer " and press tab, and it will
  list all possible things you could give to mplayer as input, not only
  the possible video/audio files in the current directory, but also things
  like "cdda://", "tv://" and so on. Pressing tab again will start cycling
  through the possibilities. Write "mplayer -al" and press tab, and it
  completes it to "mplayer -alang".

* Getting warmer: Write "scp something" and press tab, and if
  "something" was the beginning of a hostname you have used with scp
  in the past, zsh will complete to it and add a ":" at the end. Press
  tab again and zsh will ask you for the ssh login details and then
  start completing the files/directories on the remote computer.

* Freaking mental: Suppose you are inside a directory which is
  git-revisioned, with many files tracked by git. except for one or a
  few new files which are not yet. You write "git add " and press tab,
  and if there was only one such file, it will directly complete to
  it. If there were several, pressing tab again will list those files,
  and if you press it again, will start cycling through them.

  Is there something zsh's file completion can't do? Maybe give you the
correct lottery numbers for next week (although I'm sure that's also
on the works).

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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