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Invisible wrote:
> Dude... I thought nerds being obsessed with Star Trek was just a
> stereotype. I didn't realise people actually *watch* this stuff! o_O
I think you're confusing it with Star Wars.
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Invisible wrote:
> Dude... I thought nerds being obsessed with Star Trek was just a
> stereotype. I didn't realise people actually *watch* this stuff! o_O
Nerds watch a movie and enjoy it, potentially analyzing plot holes. Real
nerds arrive wearing star trek shirts (saw that this time...) and analyze
why the plot holes in *this* movie interact with the plot holes in other
movies about the same universe.
This guy has way too much time on his hands:
http://popculturezoo.com/archives/2529
(Lots of spoilers there)
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Dude... I thought nerds being obsessed with Star Trek was just a
>> stereotype. I didn't realise people actually *watch* this stuff! o_O
>
> I think you're confusing it with Star Wars.
No. Star Wars was *enjoyable* to watch. (Except the recent prequels.)
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On Thu, 14 May 2009 16:57:40 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>> Invisible wrote:
>>> Dude... I thought nerds being obsessed with Star Trek was just a
>>> stereotype. I didn't realise people actually *watch* this stuff! o_O
>>
>> I think you're confusing it with Star Wars.
>
> No. Star Wars was *enjoyable* to watch. (Except the recent prequels.)
Trek is pretty enjoyable to watch as well. The thing that both Star Wars
and Star Trek have in common is that largely the technology used is used
to support a fairly strong character story - the stories in general
aren't about the technology.
Particularly in the more resent spin-off series of Trek - DS9 for example.
Pity "Enterprise" was so bad, though - at least the few episodes I
watched.
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> Pity "Enterprise" was so bad, though - at least the few episodes I
> watched.
Enterprise was not that bad. In fact, it was getting better and better
with each new season. For some reason, though, they cut it short, when it
was getting really good.
(Voyager almost suffered the same fate, but the writers were able to save
it with 7 of 9. Good move. I liked the whole series (save a few individual
wallbanger episodes), especially from that point forward. You can never
have too much Borg in Star Trek.)
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Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> Pity "Enterprise" was so bad, though - at least the few episodes I
>> watched.
>
> Enterprise was not that bad.
I agree. It's not exactly the most awesome thing that's ever existed,
but it seems reasonably good to me.
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On Thu, 14 May 2009 13:29:07 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> Pity "Enterprise" was so bad, though - at least the few episodes I
>> watched.
>
> Enterprise was not that bad. In fact, it was getting better and better
> with each new season. For some reason, though, they cut it short, when
> it was getting really good.
I've heard that; part of what turned me off, to be honest, was the "hair
band" theme music. But I didn't give it much of a chance, I'll admit to
that. :-)
> (Voyager almost suffered the same fate, but the writers were able to
> save
> it with 7 of 9. Good move. I liked the whole series (save a few
> individual wallbanger episodes), especially from that point forward. You
> can never have too much Borg in Star Trek.)
True, though the problem with an uber-enemy like the Borg is that the
good guys have to end up with the upper hand at some point - so they go
from being a really serious threat to being just another bad guy.
I liked Voyager, but it did suffer from "Gilligan's Island" syndrome -
ie, eventually they have to get "off the island" (ie, get home) so
there's not much room for variation in the story.
I don't know that Seven saved the show, though; I thought Kes was a much
more interesting character, and it was a shame that she left. With Seven
you basically had another Data-like character who had to learn what it
meant to be human. Been there, done that, and I think Brent Spiner did a
much better job of exploring that idea.
Jim
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SPOILER (maybe) about the ending of ST:Voyager in this post.
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> I liked Voyager, but it did suffer from "Gilligan's Island" syndrome -
> ie, eventually they have to get "off the island" (ie, get home) so
> there's not much room for variation in the story.
How the Voyager go to the other end of the galaxy was a bit of a Deus ex
Machina, but it was justifiable. After all, if the whole idea is that they
get stranded, they have to get there *somehow*, and in the Star Trek universe
the only possibility is some Deus ex Machina solution to that problem.
What I feared through the entire series was that they would get home the
same way, making all of what happened in all the 7 seasons pointless. In
other words, they spend 7 whole seasons trying to get back home, traveling
through the galaxy and fighting obstacles on the way, only to get teleported
back to home in the same way as they got there in the first place? That would
have been a downer.
At least the writers didn't make that mistake, and instead had them find
their own means to get back home. (Of course the actual solution was still
a bit of a stretch and somewhat a Deus ex Machina solution, but at least
it had *some* good ideas in it, and wasn't such a big downer.)
> I don't know that Seven saved the show, though; I thought Kes was a much
> more interesting character, and it was a shame that she left. With Seven
> you basically had another Data-like character who had to learn what it
> meant to be human. Been there, done that, and I think Brent Spiner did a
> much better job of exploring that idea.
I don't think was so much about the character development which was
decisive here... :P
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- Warp
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> the stories in general aren't about the technology.
*Usually* not. Occasionally they are. Of course, McCoy's distaste for the
transporter is all about the technology. :-)
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Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> the stories in general aren't about the technology.
>
> *Usually* not. Occasionally they are. Of course, McCoy's distaste for
> the transporter is all about the technology. :-)
Typically it's "hey, there's this technology that can do X. Man, what
would that mean for civilisation?"
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