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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 05:20:00
Message: <web.49ba251c5031099e6dd25f0b0@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> > dude people can WALK 4.6 miles in 1.2 hours!
>
> Er, yeah, right.

Well I used to walk to work at my last job, that was almost 2 miles and I could
do it in under 25 mins if I pushed it.

> As I recall, last time we want on a school trip that was a 5 mile walk,
> it took an entire day to walk it. (But then, that *was* 5 Mr Martin
> miles...)

I once walked almost 20 miles in a day. Over hills. 10 miles is a good distance
for a day walk.

> Does whinging count as "exercise"?

Depends on the volume ;-)


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 05:32:31
Message: <49ba282f$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/12/2009 2:58 AM, Warp wrote:
>    I lost 22 kg in 7 months by eating healthy and exercising. A medical
> examination afterwards confirmed that all my physical stats (eg. blood
> counts) were improved.
>
>    I wrote about this in detail here:

Good job!  How are you doing at keeping it off?

Personally, I haven't yet motivated myself to lose weight, despite 
"knowing" that I need to.  I currently weigh 253, but I just have to 
many other things to worry about at the moment.  It's a lazy excuse, I 
know, but it's how I feel.

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 05:37:00
Message: <49ba293c$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/12/2009 6:33 AM, Invisible wrote:
> The classes are one hour, not two. One hour, once a week.

One hour, 3 times a week is better.  Or 30 minutes, 5 times a week, but 
recent research suggests the first is healthier.

> (Actually, on reflection, if I had a time machine I wouldn't use it to
> find out if I'd still get fat... More like, go back in time, bitch-slap
> myself, and radically alter a few life choices!)

Ever see the movie Daywatch?  There's a line in there I love... a 
villain is offered the opportunity to correct any of his past mistakes, 
which he declines.  His associate asks him, "You don't make mistakes?" 
to which he replied, "I don't regret them."

Fact is, if you had made different choices, you wouldn't understand the 
necessity of those choices.  It's the act of making mistakes that 
teaches you not to; to quote conventional wisdom, "it's the burnt hand 
that teaches best."

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 05:39:48
Message: <49ba29e4$1@news.povray.org>
>> (Actually, on reflection, if I had a time machine I wouldn't use it to
>> find out if I'd still get fat... More like, go back in time, bitch-slap
>> myself, and radically alter a few life choices!)
> 
> Ever see the movie Daywatch?  There's a line in there I love... a 
> villain is offered the opportunity to correct any of his past mistakes, 
> which he declines.  His associate asks him, "You don't make mistakes?" 
> to which he replied, "I don't regret them."
> 
> Fact is, if you had made different choices, you wouldn't understand the 
> necessity of those choices.

No, I wouldn't. But I'd be *happy* instead of being miserable. I think I 
could live with being happy but not knowing why. :-P

> It's the act of making mistakes that 
> teaches you not to; to quote conventional wisdom, "it's the burnt hand 
> that teaches best."

Being killed is a *really* ineffective way to learn about the dangers of 
landmines. :-P


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 05:45:11
Message: <49ba2b27@news.povray.org>
>> dude people can WALK 4.6 miles in 1.2 hours!
>
> Er, yeah, right.

4.6 miles in 1.2 hours is 3.8 MPH, that is brisk walking pace, I guarantee 
you that most people would be able to manage that WALKING with no prior 
training.  That is unbelievably slow for a bike, are you sure you got those 
figures correct?


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 05:51:55
Message: <49ba2cbb$1@news.povray.org>
>>> dude people can WALK 4.6 miles in 1.2 hours!
>>
>> Er, yeah, right.
> 
> 4.6 miles in 1.2 hours is 3.8 MPH, that is brisk walking pace, I 
> guarantee you that most people would be able to manage that WALKING with 
> no prior training.  That is unbelievably slow for a bike, are you sure 
> you got those figures correct?

It might be 4.2 miles or 4.8 miles or something, but it was definitely 
just under 5 miles. And the time might not be exactly 1.2 hours, but it 
was a little over 1 hour.

I specifically remember computing my average speed and being 
dissapointed by it. (Especially since during the downhill parts, my 
speedometer registered 20 MPH or more.)

Indeed, every morning I'd get out of bed, have my breadfast, and be out 
of the door while my little sister lay sound asleep in bed. Half an hour 
later I'd cycle past her school and she'd be there on her bike chatting 
to her friends. I never could figure out how the hell she got there so 
fast, or how she got in front of my without passing me.

I think the problem is that the route is uphill in both directions. 
(Despite this obviously being physically impossible.) Perhaps it *would* 
in fact be faster to walk it. Cycling uphill is absurdly hard.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 06:15:00
Message: <49BA3226.8090509@hotmail.com>
On 12-3-2009 10:58, Warp wrote:
>   I lost 22 kg in 7 months by eating healthy and exercising. A medical
> examination afterwards confirmed that all my physical stats (eg. blood
> counts) were improved.

YKYHBRTTL when you try to loose exactly pi kilo's per month.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 07:35:03
Message: <g5hkr4tk2jikhhosds41tu45ogl849iv3h@4ax.com>
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:15:02 +0100, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

>On 12-3-2009 10:58, Warp wrote:
>>   I lost 22 kg in 7 months by eating healthy and exercising. A medical
>> examination afterwards confirmed that all my physical stats (eg. blood
>> counts) were improved.
>
>YKYHBRTTL when you try to loose exactly pi kilo's per month.

LOL Nicely spotted. 
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 07:38:29
Message: <49ba45b5$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

> YKYHBRTTL when you try to loose exactly pi kilo's per month.

Most people just try to loose the pie kilos. ;-)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 12:23:50
Message: <49ba8896$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> Ever see the movie Daywatch? 

Daywatch and nightwatch were fabulous movies. So totally non-Hollywood in 
their execution. I never got around to looking up what the russian words 
written in chalk were saying - I'll have to watch that again.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 13:58:24
Message: <49ba9ec0$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> Hehe, everytime I go to Japan 
Nice, I wish I could say the same, lucky you :-)


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 13:59:07
Message: <49ba9eeb$1@news.povray.org>
Interesting, I'll keep this handy, thx for the info Warp :-)


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 18:11:41
Message: <49bada1c@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> I think the problem is that the route is uphill in both directions.
> (Despite this obviously being physically impossible.) Perhaps it *would*
> in fact be faster to walk it. Cycling uphill is absurdly hard.

Not impossible according to Murphy's Law. Both directions are uphill and
against the wind.


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 13 Mar 2009 23:48:51
Message: <49bb2923$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/13/2009 9:23 AM, Darren New wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>> Ever see the movie Daywatch?
>
> Daywatch and nightwatch were fabulous movies. So totally non-Hollywood
> in their execution. I never got around to looking up what the russian
> words written in chalk were saying - I'll have to watch that again.

I just have to mention a few more things...

First, they included the best use of subtitles I have ever seen, 
*anywhere*.  The stylization made reading the subtitles *enjoyable*, for 
crying out loud!

Second, the movies were made for about $4M US each!  In other words, 
each one cost less than half the original Star Wars, 30 years later!

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 14 Mar 2009 00:01:07
Message: <49bb2c03$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/12/2009 9:10 AM, Invisible wrote:
> I won't bore you with the political details. Suffice it to say that if I
> was living by myself, it would be a total non-issue. I'd buy the food I
> want to eat, and I'd eat it. The problem is my mother... Let's not even
> go into that one.

http://www.citybaseapartments.com/
http://www.metroroommates.com/city_rentals/city_intl_rentals.asp

For the second one, scroll down to the bottom and you'll see the UK 
split up by city.

I don't mean to be rude by suggesting you move out, but you've brought 
up your mother before, and it seems that you'd be happier living on your 
own.

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 14 Mar 2009 00:05:15
Message: <49bb2cfb$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/13/2009 2:09 AM, Invisible wrote:
>> dude people can WALK 4.6 miles in 1.2 hours!
>
> Er, yeah, right.

I'm a bit(ha!) chunky, and almost every day I walk 0.8 miles in under 15 
minutes.  That's on pace for 1.4 hours.

When I was in shape, I could have gone faster...

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 15 Mar 2009 00:29:17
Message: <49bc841d$1@news.povray.org>
One other thing to know is that different types of carbs digest at different 
speeds. There's a "glycemic index", where 100 is glucose (aka cane sugar), 
<100 digests slower, >100 digests faster. Obviously you want low numbers.

Some surprising thought-to-be-healthy foods actually will screw with your 
digestion as much or more than drinking a soda. Rice (at least white rice), 
carrots, and a few others are worse than a spoon of sugar. Fructose actually 
has a very low glycemic index, altho I don't know if the kind they use in 
manufacturing is better than regular sugar. But if you want something 
natural to scoop into your tea, fructose is much better for you that regular 
sugar and tastes the same, for example.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Epic (and expensive) failure
Date: 16 Mar 2009 03:57:01
Message: <49be064d@news.povray.org>
>> Hehe, everytime I go to Japan
> Nice, I wish I could say the same, lucky you :-)

Unfortunately I've never been able to spend more than 1 or 2 days actually 
doing enjoyable things there, like travelling around for fun or 
sight-seeing, the last couple of times I've been there have been various 
reasons why I couldn't stay longer or go earlier to try and enjoy the 
country.  One day though :-)


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