On 3/11/2009 3:15 AM, Invisible wrote:
> It's finally happened. I'm old. :'(

Nah, you're mature.  It happens to everyone :)

It just means you have to lead a different lifestyle from when you were 
younger if you want to keep the same physical shape.

> ....but then I think "well, wouldn't I be more likely to keel over and
> die rather than lose weight?" I mean, AFAIK, it's impossible to lose
> weight, you can only gain it.

Bulshi*.  The reason most people don't lose weight is because they don't 
care enough.

They care more about eating that tasty donut than dieting.
They care more about playing video games than exercising.

It all comes down to choice, and most people aren't willing to choose to 
lose weight.  They are perfectly capable of doing so, if they cared enough.

> And then I start thinking really crazy things like "well, maybe if I
> spend 3 hours a day running round the block..." But that's not going to
> help either.

If you spend 3 hours a day running, you'll live an extra ten years... 
but you'll spend those ten years running!

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com

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Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> > ....but then I think "well, wouldn't I be more likely to keel over and
> > die rather than lose weight?" I mean, AFAIK, it's impossible to lose
> > weight, you can only gain it.

> Bulshi*.  The reason most people don't lose weight is because they don't 
> care enough.

  Losing a significant amount of weight (in a healthy way) is definitely not
easy, but completely possible. By far the major obstacle in this is the lack
of proper motivation.

  I lost 22 kg in 7 months by eating healthy and exercising. A medical
examination afterwards confirmed that all my physical stats (eg. blood
counts) were improved.

  I wrote about this in detail here:

http://www.bodybuildingforum.ie/fat-loss-diet/7-months-ago-t466.html

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                                                          - Warp

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On 12 Mar 2009 05:58:00 -0400, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

>  Losing a significant amount of weight (in a healthy way) is definitely not
>easy, but completely possible. By far the major obstacle in this is the lack
>of proper motivation.
>
>  I lost 22 kg in 7 months by eating healthy and exercising. A medical
>examination afterwards confirmed that all my physical stats (eg. blood
>counts) were improved.

Well done Warp that is a significant amount of weight to loose. I once lost a
similar amount in a similar time frame when I was in my twenties. I still have
the "stretch marks" on my arms. Healthy eating and a modicum of exercise is the
way to go. It was probably easier for me as there were not so many sources of
processed and fast food around in those days. Also I did not have a car so I had
to walk more than people do nowadays.
As for motivation, I found that the more weight I lost the greater my motivation
became. :)
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     Stephen

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> ...and that's when it hits you: YOU'RE A FAT ****ER!! o_O
> 
> I am seriously alarmed at this turn of events. My diet hasn't changed. 
> My lifestyle hasn't changed. 

OOC what does your diet and lifestyle (exercise) consist of?

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scott wrote:
>> ...and that's when it hits you: YOU'RE A FAT ****ER!! o_O
>>
>> I am seriously alarmed at this turn of events. My diet hasn't changed. 
>> My lifestyle hasn't changed. 
> 
> OOC what does your diet and lifestyle (exercise) consist of?

My diet is 80% cheese, 15% chocolate, and 5% other stuff. My lifestyle 
consists of spending hours sitting completely motionless in front of a 
computer, and also sleeping.

Given the above, I ought to be an eighty tonne walrus like my other. But 
I've always been a stick insect. But now, suddenly, I'm getting fat. If 
I'd *changed* something I could understand. But I haven't. The only 
difference I can think of is that I now do dance classes...

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>> OOC what does your diet and lifestyle (exercise) consist of?
>
> My diet is 80% cheese, 15% chocolate, and 5% other stuff. My lifestyle 
> consists of spending hours sitting completely motionless in front of a 
> computer, and also sleeping.
>
> Given the above, I ought to be an eighty tonne walrus like my other. But 
> I've always been a stick insect. But now, suddenly, I'm getting fat.

No, given the above continues you are likely to end up an eighty ton walrus 
in a few years.

That is exactly to be expected, when you are younger most people can eat 
what they like with little or no exercise and won't get fat.  Usually during 
your late 20s / early 30s that changes, it's just life.

Take some advice from Warp's reply before it's too late.  BTW it's not just 
the weight, having a diet and lifestyle like that is just not healthy and 
you'll increase the risk of all sorts of other problems later in life.

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scott wrote:

> That is exactly to be expected, when you are younger most people can eat 
> what they like with little or no exercise and won't get fat.  Usually 
> during your late 20s / early 30s that changes, it's just life.

I don't get it. I finished growing 10 years ago. Why the sudden change 
*now*?

> Take some advice from Warp's reply before it's too late.  BTW it's not 
> just the weight, having a diet and lifestyle like that is just not 
> healthy and you'll increase the risk of all sorts of other problems 
> later in life.

Well, if I'm not going to eat cheese any more, the question would be 
"what the heck am I going to eat?"

As for exercise... I only really have 3 hours a day that I can do 
anything with. I'm at work all day. My job involves sitting motionless. 
Can't really change that. I spent 2.5 hours per day sat motionless in a 
car. Can't really change that. That leaves 3 hours each evening.

I guess I could spend 3 hours each day running. However, there are two 
problems:

1. I can't run for that long.

2. That isn't long enough to make any measurable difference to a 
person's fitness levels.

3. That's *insanely* boring.

I guess you could maybe add in the weekends too... I don't know.

The irony is, I took up dance classes partly because I thought it would 
be good exercise. Hell, it seems physical enough! Enough to get me very 
hot and tired anyway. But, apparently, it's having no effect at all...

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Invisible a écrit :
> The irony is, I took up dance classes partly because I thought it would 
> be good exercise. Hell, it seems physical enough! Enough to get me very 
> hot and tired anyway. But, apparently, it's having no effect at all...

Ah but you don't know what would have happened *without* the dance 
classes :-) How long have you been doing that by the way?

If you manage to cram a pair of two-hour classes of physical activity 
into your schedule, I believe it could only be for the better. And it 
does not absolutely have to be running ;-)

-- 
Vincent

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>> The irony is, I took up dance classes partly because I thought it 
>> would be good exercise. Hell, it seems physical enough! Enough to get 
>> me very hot and tired anyway. But, apparently, it's having no effect 
>> at all...
> 
> Ah but you don't know what would have happened *without* the dance 
> classes :-)

Damnit, I need a time machine. :-P

> How long have you been doing that by the way?

Since January.

> If you manage to cram a pair of two-hour classes of physical activity 
> into your schedule, I believe it could only be for the better. And it 
> does not absolutely have to be running ;-)

The classes are one hour, not two. One hour, once a week.


(Actually, on reflection, if I had a time machine I wouldn't use it to 
find out if I'd still get fat... More like, go back in time, bitch-slap 
myself, and radically alter a few life choices!)

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Invisible a écrit :
>> How long have you been doing that by the way?
> 
> Since January.
> 
>> If you manage to cram a pair of two-hour classes of physical activity 
>> into your schedule, I believe it could only be for the better. And it 
>> does not absolutely have to be running ;-)
> 
> The classes are one hour, not two. One hour, once a week.
> 

I wouldn't expect to see any effect in that short time span, not with 
only one hour a week... Perhaps you'll have to supplement that with some 
other form of sport.

-- 
Vincent

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