>> > The majority of us (those who use FF for this reason)
>> > *DO NOT WANT* any Microsoft internet-related code running in FF, it's 
>> > that
>> > simple.
>
>> That will be a bit tricky seeing as you have FF running on an OS written 
>> by
>> MS, if you really do not want any MS code running then use a different OS
>> for web browsing, it's the only way to be sure.
>
>  So basically you are saying: If you use Windows, don't bother even trying
> to browse securely.

If you really don't consider the MS code that FF uses (eg to draw JPEGs, 
create the windows, interact with the network etc) to be secure, then no, 
don't even bother, get another OS that you think is more secure.

>  That's the kind of TheDailyWTF style mentality, in the same lines as
> "we don't have any passwords in your database server because, after all,
> it's impossible to secure it from all possible hacker attacks".

Exactly, which is why most people (myself included) are happy with the 
compromise of using FF on an MS OS, of course there are still likely to be 
security holes, but it's worth the risk if you need the MS OS for other 
reasons and aren't uber paranoid about security.

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Dunno what you're all on about, I just did the recent update in FF and no 
secret MS extension has been installed.

  <shrug>

  ~Steve~

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St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> Dunno what you're all on about, I just did the recent update in FF and no 
> secret MS extension has been installed.

  It's not a question of updating Firefox.

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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> St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>> Dunno what you're all on about, I just did the recent update in FF and no
>> secret MS extension has been installed.
>
>  It's not a question of updating Firefox.

     Ah, I see, so why didn't I get it anyway? I've been watching for it as 
I'm using FF a lot now.


       ~Steve~

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St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>      Ah, I see, so why didn't I get it anyway? I've been watching for it as 
> I'm using FF a lot now.

  Which version of the .NET framework do you have installed, if any? Maybe
Windows just hasn't updated your .NET framework?

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                                                          - Warp

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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> St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>>      Ah, I see, so why didn't I get it anyway? I've been watching for it 
>> as
>> I'm using FF a lot now.
>
>  Which version of the .NET framework do you have installed, if any? Maybe
> Windows just hasn't updated your .NET framework?

      .NET framework 2.0 Service Pack 1 version: 2.1.21022

        ~Steve~

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St. wrote:
>       .NET framework 2.0 Service Pack 1 version: 2.1.21022

The extension is installed by .NET 3.5 SP1.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."

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> St. wrote:
>>       .NET framework 2.0 Service Pack 1 version: 2.1.21022
>
> The extension is installed by .NET 3.5 SP1.

   Thanks for that, so I should be expecting it sometime in the near future 
then?

   (Have to admit that I didn't read every sentence in this thread, but .NET 
3.5 SP1 did catch my eye).

    BTW, how are .NET updates installed? Just checking in CP and I've had 
several .NET updates but have never had any dialogue message about it, so I 
assume they come with the general win updates?


        ~Steve~



>
> -- 
>   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
>   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
>   unable to read this, even at arm's length."

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St. wrote:
>    Thanks for that, so I should be expecting it sometime in the near future 
> then?

I don't know. It shows up in Windows Update right now for me. Perhaps you 
need to already have Net 3.5 installed before the SP1 gets offered.

>     BTW, how are .NET updates installed? Just checking in CP and I've had 
> several .NET updates but have never had any dialogue message about it, so I 
> assume they come with the general win updates?

Yes.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."

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Darren New wrote:
>>     BTW, how are .NET updates installed? Just checking in CP and I've 
> Yes.

Rather, the updates are. I'm not sure about the new releases (like Net 3.x 
vs Net 2.x).

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."

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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message 
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> Darren New wrote:
>>>     BTW, how are .NET updates installed? Just checking in CP and I've
>> Yes.
>
> Rather, the updates are. I'm not sure about the new releases (like Net 3.x 
> vs Net 2.x).

      Hmm, I remember downloading .NET Framework 1.1 (I think it was for a 
MOD editing program for Crysis - XSI6 Mod Tool), and now it's changed to 
version 2.0, so that must have been a silent install, or it was included in 
a gen win update, but if in the gen win update, then it never mentions it in 
the dialogue. Hmm, confusing.

   Thanks anyway Darren. :)

         ~Steve~


>
> -- 
>   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
>   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
>   unable to read this, even at arm's length."

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Darren New wrote:
> Of course, on this list, some folks seem to take every opportunity to 
> take offense and read people in the worst possible way, regardless of 
> intent.

      I've seen this many times in real life also from the "toughest" 
people, this leads me to conclude that Humans are a lot more sensible 
than we suppose, this is because we try hard not to show it. So if you 
don't consider your proxy feelings you're probably offending him/her adn 
that person probably will try not to show it and keep a resentment 
against you.

      I think is true when people say that humans are not logical.

Cheers.

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St. wrote:
>       Hmm, I remember downloading .NET Framework 1.1 (I think it was for a 
> MOD editing program for Crysis - XSI6 Mod Tool), and now it's changed to 
> version 2.0, so that must have been a silent install, or it was included in 
> a gen win update, but if in the gen win update, then it never mentions it in 
> the dialogue. Hmm, confusing.

It might have come along with a program you installed from CD or something, 
or with a Windows service pack, like generic XP SP2. It obviously comes 
along if you install development environments.  It's possible it comes with 
Windows Update too - I just don't remember.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."

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