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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 8 Feb 2009 08:40:10
Message: <498ee0ba$1@news.povray.org>
I StumbleUpon'ed this: 
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-websites-to-make-you-a-photoshop-ninja/
I found the first image rather ironic (and possible quite illegal, but at least 
they didn't remove Gilles' copyright-tag, they just made it unreadably small)

Similarly, I found this: 
http://www.denofgeek.com/captainsblog/49152/the_martin_anderson_column_a_new_future_for_blakes_7.html
Where they used an image I made 
(http://www.povplace.com/gallery/SciFi%20-%20Blakes%207/12.jpg), removed my 
name, added the Blake's 7 logo and implied it's a preview for the Blake's 7 
remake... quite flattering, although I would have liked some credit of course :(

cu!
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sphere{G(b,e)+3*z.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1;
#end#end _(y-x,y,x,x+y)_(y,-x-y,x+y,y)_(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)_(-y,y,y+z,x+y)
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From: triple r
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 8 Feb 2009 11:20:00
Message: <web.498f0505d8a55709ef2b9ba40@news.povray.org>
"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] povplacecom> wrote:
> I StumbleUpon'ed this:
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-websites-to-make-you-a-photoshop-ninja/
> I found the first image rather ironic (and possible quite illegal, but at least
> they didn't remove Gilles' copyright-tag, they just made it unreadably small)

How insulting.  What about this one:

http://mathpaint.blogspot.com/2007/02/fractal-temple.html

Unknown author?  He's either not trying or just feigning ignorance.

 - Ricky


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From: Halbert
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 8 Feb 2009 11:22:43
Message: <498f06d3@news.povray.org>
I have found a good tool for finding unauthorized usage of your images. Its 
a pattern-based image search. Try it out with some POV hall of fame images.
http://tineye.com/


-- 
H²


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 8 Feb 2009 14:38:04
Message: <498f349c$1@news.povray.org>
On 2/8/2009 8:15 AM, triple_r wrote:
> "Zeger Knaepen"<zeg### [at] povplacecom>  wrote:
>> I StumbleUpon'ed this:
>> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-websites-to-make-you-a-photoshop-ninja/
>> I found the first image rather ironic (and possible quite illegal, but at least
>> they didn't remove Gilles' copyright-tag, they just made it unreadably small)
>
> How insulting.  What about this one:
>
> http://mathpaint.blogspot.com/2007/02/fractal-temple.html
>
> Unknown author?  He's either not trying or just feigning ignorance.
>
>   - Ricky
>

Wow - it's right on the image!

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 8 Feb 2009 15:22:23
Message: <498F3EFE.7070403@hotmail.com>
On 8-2-2009 20:37, Chambers wrote:
> On 2/8/2009 8:15 AM, triple_r wrote:
>> "Zeger Knaepen"<zeg### [at] povplacecom>  wrote:
>>> I StumbleUpon'ed this:
>>> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-websites-to-make-you-a-photoshop-ninja/
>>> I found the first image rather ironic (and possible quite illegal, 
>>> but at least
>>> they didn't remove Gilles' copyright-tag, they just made it 
>>> unreadably small)
>>
>> How insulting.  What about this one:
>>
>> http://mathpaint.blogspot.com/2007/02/fractal-temple.html
>>
>> Unknown author?  He's either not trying or just feigning ignorance.
>>
>>   - Ricky
>>
> 
> Wow - it's right on the image!
> 
Perhaps he means that it is not by a known author, like Shakespeare or 
Pratchett or Marquez. Then again, I don't think they are very well known 
for their raytracing, so why did he expect that?


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From: triple r
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 8 Feb 2009 15:50:01
Message: <web.498f4456d8a55709ef2b9ba40@news.povray.org>
"triple_r" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Unknown author?

I guess the proper thing to do would have been to speak up and let him know,
rather than just complain.  Thanks, Mr. Johnson.

 - Ricky


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From: triple r
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 8 Feb 2009 15:50:01
Message: <web.498f44c7d8a55709ef2b9ba40@news.povray.org>
"Halbert" <hal### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> I have found a good tool for finding unauthorized usage of your images. Its
> a pattern-based image search. Try it out with some POV hall of fame images.

That's pretty neat.  It seems to work pretty well too, although I'm surprised
some of those don't actually have more hits.  Seems like the kind of thing
Google would be very interested in, especially with such a big image index.

 - Ricky


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 8 Feb 2009 23:40:27
Message: <498fb3bb@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
>
> Perhaps he means that it is not by a known author, like Shakespeare or
> Pratchett or Marquez. Then again, I don't think they are very well known
> for their raytracing, so why did he expect that?

No, he doesn't. Now there's a comment from Christopher himself and he's
granted thanks for pointing out the author.

He *might* have ment that the signature on the image ain't 100% sure
identification, but I doubt even that.

-Aero


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 9 Feb 2009 11:47:48
Message: <49905e34@news.povray.org>
Halbert <hal### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> http://tineye.com/

  Seems like islamonline.net is not concerned about such mundane things like
copyright...
http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2002/08/Article02a.shtml

  (From here: http://warp.povusers.org/pics/Landscape.jpg )

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 9 Feb 2009 13:03:20
Message: <49906fe8@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> 
> No, he doesn't. Now there's a comment from Christopher himself and he's
> granted thanks for pointing out the author.
> 

I was blind but now I can see!

Seriously, I did read that my eyes crossed oslt. The comment is from
Greg M. Johnson, not Christopher himself.

> -Aero

-Aero, who opened hes eyes.


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 9 Feb 2009 15:17:29
Message: <49908f59$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> a écrit dans le message de news: 
49905e34@news.povray.org...
> Halbert <hal### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> http://tineye.com/
>
>  Seems like islamonline.net is not concerned about such mundane things 
> like
> copyright...
> http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2002/08/Article02a.shtml
>
>  (From here: http://warp.povusers.org/pics/Landscape.jpg )
>
> -- 
>                                                          - Warp

They are not alone !

http://tineye.com/search/fc3107ea570d15c82f0e52f8fd4064d9670ea392
(2nd result)

I don't understand Dutch but I'm not sure I like it

Marc


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 9 Feb 2009 19:04:17
Message: <4990C47C.9060208@hotmail.com>
On 9-2-2009 21:17, m_a_r_c wrote:
> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> a écrit dans le message de news: 
> 49905e34@news.povray.org...
>> Halbert <hal### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>> http://tineye.com/
>>  Seems like islamonline.net is not concerned about such mundane things 
>> like
>> copyright...
>> http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2002/08/Article02a.shtml
>>
>>  (From here: http://warp.povusers.org/pics/Landscape.jpg )
>>
>> -- 
>>                                                          - Warp
> 
> They are not alone !
> 
> http://tineye.com/search/fc3107ea570d15c82f0e52f8fd4064d9670ea392
> (2nd result)
> 
> I don't understand Dutch but I'm not sure I like it

I do, but the query expired.


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From: triple r
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 9 Feb 2009 19:35:00
Message: <web.4990cb06d8a5570979a9d4e40@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > I don't understand Dutch but I'm not sure I like it
>
> I do, but the query expired.

Here's the original:

http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2003-04-30/erasmus.jpg

I'll let you do the work since I'm not sure I like it either.

 - Ricky


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 10 Feb 2009 03:17:39
Message: <49913823$1@news.povray.org>
"triple_r" <nomail@nomail> a écrit dans le message de news: 
web.4990cb06d8a5570979a9d4e40@news.povray.org...
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> > I don't understand Dutch but I'm not sure I like it
>>
>> I do, but the query expired.
>
> Here's the original:
>
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2003-04-30/erasmus.jpg
>
> I'll let you do the work since I'm not sure I like it either.
>
> - Ricky

I didn't want to post a direct link to that  found website because its 
overall look stinks.

BTW I did the search with the image URL on my site and TinEye didn't find it 
on the IRTC as the search from IRTC URL does not find it on my site.
But you knew where to find it ...you have a good image recognition algorithm 
:-)

Marc


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 10 Feb 2009 03:19:29
Message: <49913891@news.povray.org>
"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
499### [at] hotmailcom...
> I do, but the query expired.
As said Ricky, the original is there
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2003-04-30/erasmus.jpg


Marc


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 10 Feb 2009 04:01:32
Message: <4991426D.9080608@hotmail.com>
On 10-2-2009 1:32, triple_r wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>> I don't understand Dutch but I'm not sure I like it
>> I do, but the query expired.
> 
> Here's the original:
> 
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2003-04-30/erasmus.jpg
> 
> I'll let you do the work since I'm not sure I like it either.
> 
It is a page that tries to take a pro-tolerance point of view. It does 
so by attacking every group that is non-tolerant.
In short it is pro-homosexuality, anti-islamic, slightly xenophobe and a 
bit nationalistic. As you can infer from the layout of the page, it is 
not entirely coherently written.
For the American readers: homosexuality is accepted in our Dutch 
culture. Protecting gay rights can therefore also be a point in extreme 
right wings/nationalistic views.
It does not attack the Islam as a faith, but only those things that are 
incompatible with our current culture (but not necessary with our 
1950's). In passing there is even a derogative remark aimed at 
conservative Christians who hold the same sort of views.
Generaal Pardon refers to a group of foreigners that had been in the 
netherlands for 10+ years, worked here and became part of our society 
without ever been legal here. Most of them because the bureaucracy here 
failed to take a decision. There has been a campaign for a number of 
years to grant this group a general pardon and legalise the group. And 
there was the anti-campaign. This is much too complicated to discuss 
here further, but if anyone is looking for a subject for a PhD or two in 
sociology/politicology...


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 10 Feb 2009 04:04:43
Message: <4991432C.7040709@hotmail.com>
On 10-2-2009 9:17, m_a_r_c wrote:
> "triple_r" <nomail@nomail> a écrit dans le message de news: 
> web.4990cb06d8a5570979a9d4e40@news.povray.org...
>> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>>> I don't understand Dutch but I'm not sure I like it
>>> I do, but the query expired.
>> Here's the original:
>>
>> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2003-04-30/erasmus.jpg
>>
>> I'll let you do the work since I'm not sure I like it either.
>>
>> - Ricky
> 
> I didn't want to post a direct link to that  found website because its 
> overall look stinks.
> 
> BTW I did the search with the image URL on my site and TinEye didn't find it 
> on the IRTC as the search from IRTC URL does not find it on my site.
> But you knew where to find it ...you have a good image recognition algorithm 
> :-)

Should I know where your site is? It is not in your sig. Nor is mine for 
that matter ;) (members.chello.nl/a.c.linnenbank)


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 10 Feb 2009 05:08:19
Message: <49915213@news.povray.org>
"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
499### [at] hotmailcom...
>>
> It is a page that tries to take a pro-tolerance point of view. It does so 
> by attacking every group that is non-tolerant.


Thank you for making it clear.
As I could understand only the images and pick a word here and there, I 
thought it was worse.
Anyway it does not show a well structured thought.

Marc


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 10 Feb 2009 05:09:21
Message: <49915251$1@news.povray.org>
"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
499### [at] hotmailcom...
> Should I know where your site is? It is not in your sig. Nor is mine for 
> that matter ;) (members.chello.nl/a.c.linnenbank)
I'm far from proud of its look but a little less ugly than generaal pardon
http://marc.jacquier.free.fr/ (sorry but in French)

Marc


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???)
Date: 10 Feb 2009 05:27:48
Message: <499156a4@news.povray.org>
"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
499### [at] hotmailcom...
> Should I know where your site is? It is not in your sig. Nor is mine for 
> that matter ;) (members.chello.nl/a.c.linnenbank)

Oh you are in pump business :-)
Marc


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: photoshopped!! (???), Re:Technical support is...
Date: 10 Feb 2009 07:16:30
Message: <4991701E.9070108@hotmail.com>
On 10-2-2009 11:27, m_a_r_c wrote:
> "andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
> 499### [at] hotmailcom...
>> Should I know where your site is? It is not in your sig. Nor is mine for 
>> that matter ;) (members.chello.nl/a.c.linnenbank)
> 
> Oh you are in pump business :-)

No I am not a plumber, I am an electrician (or more precise, I support 
them). I could not find this use in an official definition but it is 
used in our field in this way: see e.g. 
http://content.onlinejacc.org/cgi/content/full/44/7/1358

If only I new how to cross post to 
http://news.povray.org/ads0p4dcref2svlq2cirpkc3tjpt4ugd3n%404ax.com


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