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Well, now I'm really heartbroken.
I've got a shiny new GPU that I've spent hundreds of pounds on, and it's
taken me over a week to get to the stage where I can use it. This should
be the crowning glory!
However...
- My old GPU was already fast enough to do just about anything you could
want. The new one is approximately 4x better according to 3Dmark 05, but
since the old one was already good enough, there's not really any
visible benefit.
- It comes with a free license key to unlock the full version of 3Dmark
Vantage. I've run several versions of 3Dmark, but always the crippled
"free" version that hardly does anything. Finally, I can run a full
version... Wait, no I can't. It *demands* Windows Vista and refuses to
work without it. (Which I guess is fair enough; it's entire purpose is
to test all the new DirectX 10 stuff.)
- One night I sat down and ran all the demos from nVidia's website. The
last few wouldn't run because I only had a 7-series GPU. In particular,
I dearly wanted to run Cascades. Now I have a suitable GPU, and I can
fina- wait, no, *this* demands DirectX 10 also. As do almost all the
demos I couldn't run before, actually.
- One of the main reasons I went for this super-expensive GPU rather
than just buying a much cheaper model was so that I could have CUDA
support. I'm extremely excited about this technology, which became
available just *after* I got my previous card. Finally I have a suitable
GPU, and there's a Flame renderer that I dearly want to use. It does the
same thing as the normal Flame renderer, just 50x faster! 8-D Except
that... I can't make it work. It will render on the CPU, but nothing I
do can convince it to use my beautiful new GPU to go trippy-fast.
In short, every single thing I wanted to do now I have this new GPU
actually fails to work. I've spent hundreds and hundreds of pounds for
nothing.
I want a hug... :'{
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> - My old GPU was already fast enough to do just about anything you could
> want. The new one is approximately 4x better according to 3Dmark 05, but
> since the old one was already good enough, there's not really any
> visible benefit.
Now I'm puzzled. What is it that you do with your computer if you don't
play games? You don't sound to me like a person who owns a computer to do
business with it, so what else is a computer nerd going to do with it?
Want some bang for your buck? Then go and buy same recent games.
Try, for example, BioShock or Mirror's Edge.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> In short, every single thing I wanted to do now I have this new GPU
> actually fails to work. I've spent hundreds and hundreds of pounds for
> nothing.
Advice: When you're going to shell out lots of money, do your research
to find out whether the product can actually do what you want.
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Warp wrote:
> Try, for example, BioShock or Mirror's Edge.
Both of which are pretty cool, actually. Altho I only played the demo of
Mirror's Edge. :-)
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>> - My old GPU was already fast enough to do just about anything you could
>> want. The new one is approximately 4x better according to 3Dmark 05, but
>> since the old one was already good enough, there's not really any
>> visible benefit.
>
> Now I'm puzzled. What is it that you do with your computer if you don't
> play games? You don't sound to me like a person who owns a computer to do
> business with it, so what else is a computer nerd going to do with it?
What's the name of this news server? ;-)
No, seriously... I run POV-Ray, FractInt, Apophysis, and various other
compute-bounded pretty picture generators. I also have almost £2,000 of
music production software installed. There are of course always new
programs to be written - in Haskell, naturally. And let us not forget
chattering to you lot! :-P
Then there's the various computer games I play. Until HL2 came out, I
never used to play computer games at all really. But since HL2, I've
been playing quite a few Valve titles - the HL2 series, CSS, and most
recently TF2.
> Want some bang for your buck? Then go and buy same recent games.
> Try, for example, BioShock or Mirror's Edge.
I was under the impression that TF2 and HL2:EP2 *are* pretty recent
games. ;-)
But anyway, I'm looking at getting hold of Crisis at some point.
Presumably that will be a suitably vertical test of my hardware... (!)
(I'm also looking at Call of Duty 4, since apparently it's available for
PC. Although the game everybody in my clan is talking about is Left 4
Dead...)
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Advice: When you're going to shell out lots of money, do your research
> to find out whether the product can actually do what you want.
Yeah. I made the mistake of assuming that just because the product I
bought says CUDA all over it, it would be able to do CUDA...
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Seriously, if you want to 'test' your new kit, go and get Crysis. Load it up
and put everything on 'High'. If you get something like 30 - 40 fps with
*amazing* graphics, then it's working. :)
Or... How about doing this?
http://www.techmixer.com/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp/
Can't say I've tried it, but I'm tempted if it will be useful.
~Steve~
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:498aca74@news.povray.org...
> Can't say I've tried it, but I'm tempted if it will be useful.
Ah, no, that wouldn't work for me as my card isn't DX10 compatable.
~Steve~
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St. wrote:
> Seriously, if you want to 'test' your new kit, go and get Crysis. Load it up
> and put everything on 'High'. If you get something like 30 - 40 fps with
> *amazing* graphics, then it's working. :)
Heh. I just did that with CSS and TF2. Actually most of the settings
were already at maximum, but I was able to turn on antialiasing (at the
maximum setting) and anisotropic texture filtering (at the maximum
setting). The difference in sharpness was modestly impressive.
TF2 also allowed me to change the texture detail from "high" to "very
high". You know how I was saying the other day that you can't read the
writing on things in computer games? Well... now you can! o_O I notice
that not *all* the textures actually increase in resolution, but those
that do... Damn, I can see the brushmarks where the walls have been
painted, the grain in the wooden limbers, little bubbles in the
paintwork, and I can now *read* all the posters and signs around the
place. Yay, me!
Now, I just had a look on Steam to see if you can purchase Crysis that
way. Apparently you can (FarCry too. But I already have that.) So I
clicked on Crysis to read about it, and it says "to continue, please
enter your birthday".
Uh... WTF?
> Or... How about doing this?
>
> http://www.techmixer.com/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp/
>
> Can't say I've tried it, but I'm tempted if it will be useful.
Interesting. The page even claims it makes DirectX 10 work on machines
lacking the necessary hardware acceleration. (I.e., it will work even
without a DirectX 10 video card.) I'm almost tempted with this. :-P
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St. wrote:
> Seriously, if you want to 'test' your new kit, go and get Crysis. Load it up
> and put everything on 'High'. If you get something like 30 - 40 fps with
> *amazing* graphics, then it's working. :)
OMFG!! I just watched the Crysis trailer, and my eyes nearly fell out of
my head! O_O
Downloading now...
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:498ad01a@news.povray.org...
clicked on Crysis to read about it, and it says "to continue, please
> enter your birthday".
>
> Uh... WTF?
Yeah, stupid, eh?
>
>> Or... How about doing this?
>>
>> http://www.techmixer.com/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp/
>>
>> Can't say I've tried it, but I'm tempted if it will be useful.
>
> Interesting. The page even claims it makes DirectX 10 work on machines
> lacking the necessary hardware acceleration. (I.e., it will work even
> without a DirectX 10 video card.) I'm almost tempted with this. :-P
Oh, I missed that bit. It might work for me playing Crysis.
I'll let you go first, though. :op
~Steve~
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:498ad516$1@news.povray.org...
> St. wrote:
>> Seriously, if you want to 'test' your new kit, go and get Crysis. Load it
>> up and put everything on 'High'. If you get something like 30 - 40 fps
>> with *amazing* graphics, then it's working. :)
>
> OMFG!! I just watched the Crysis trailer, and my eyes nearly fell out of
> my head! O_O
>
LOL! Hehe, told you. :)
> Downloading now...
Cool. It will be a new experience for you. Crysis was built to test DX10,
and some say that it runs better on DX9, but from what I've seen there
really isn't a lot of difference on high settings, it's all good. :)
~Steve~
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>> OMFG!! I just watched the Crysis trailer, and my eyes nearly fell out of
>> my head! O_O
>>
>
> LOL! Hehe, told you. :)
Damnit, STOP COSTING ME MONEY!! >_<
>> Downloading now...
>
> Cool. It will be a new experience for you. Crysis was built to test DX10,
> and some say that it runs better on DX9, but from what I've seen there
> really isn't a lot of difference on high settings, it's all good. :)
We shall see.
I notice that my CPU is below the minimum requirements. This should be
interesting...
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:498adfe8$1@news.povray.org...
>>> OMFG!! I just watched the Crysis trailer, and my eyes nearly fell out of
>>> my head! O_O
>>>
>>
>> LOL! Hehe, told you. :)
>
> Damnit, STOP COSTING ME MONEY!! >_<
Heh, no, *you're* costing me money! (Gonna have to upgrade soon,
methinks...)
> I notice that my CPU is below the minimum requirements. This should be
> interesting...
You should be ok if I can run it on a basic 2800, 1.6GHz.
~Steve~
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>> Damnit, STOP COSTING ME MONEY!! >_<
>
> Heh, no, *you're* costing me money! (Gonna have to upgrade soon,
> methinks...)
Huh?
>> I notice that my CPU is below the minimum requirements. This should be
>> interesting...
>
> You should be ok if I can run it on a basic 2800, 1.6GHz.
Of course, today knowing the clock speed of the CPU tells you almost
nothing. ;-) [My 2.2 GHz Athlon64 X2 probably beats the **** out of a 4
GHz Pentium IV.]
PS. STILL downloading...
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:498af5cb@news.povray.org...
>>> Damnit, STOP COSTING ME MONEY!! >_<
>>
>> Heh, no, *you're* costing me money! (Gonna have to upgrade soon,
>> methinks...)
>
> Huh?
Yeah, GTX295, 700+w power supply. Oh, and a mobo to go with it. :)
Heck, that's a new computer! O.O
>
>>> I notice that my CPU is below the minimum requirements. This should be
>>> interesting...
>>
>> You should be ok if I can run it on a basic 2800, 1.6GHz.
>
> Of course, today knowing the clock speed of the CPU tells you almost
> nothing. ;-) [My 2.2 GHz Athlon64 X2 probably beats the **** out of a 4
> GHz Pentium IV.]
>
> PS. STILL downloading...
Tum te tum te tum....
~Steve~
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St. wrote:
> Yeah, GTX295, 700+w power supply. Oh, and a mobo to go with it. :)
>
> Heck, that's a new computer! O.O
Add a CPU, some RAM, a HD and a new freakin *case* and it will be! ;-)
I'm probably going to have to do that myself sometime soon... Need a
motherboard that isn't socket-939.
>> PS. STILL downloading...
>
> Tum te tum te tum....
...and *still* it downloads...
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> OMFG!! I just watched the Crysis trailer, and my eyes nearly fell out of
> my head! O_O
>
> Downloading now...
It finally finished downloading, wooo! :-D
OK, let's run this game and...
"A required security module cannot be activated. This program cannot be
executed (5024)."
...you have GOT to be kidding me!! 8-0
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> ...you have GOT to be kidding me!! 8-0
http://pcinfo.thepebkac.net/2007/11/27/crysis-will-not-start--gives-error-a-required-security-module-cannot-be-activated--this-program-cannot-be-executed-5024.aspx
>
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>> ...you have GOT to be kidding me!! 8-0
>
>
>
http://pcinfo.thepebkac.net/2007/11/27/crysis-will-not-start--gives-error-a-required-security-module-cannot-be-activated--this-program-cannot-be-executed-5024.aspx
I found that too five minutes ago.
Unfortunately, closing Process Explorer still doesn't let me run the game.
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>>> ...you have GOT to be kidding me!! 8-0
>>
>>
>>
>>
http://pcinfo.thepebkac.net/2007/11/27/crysis-will-not-start--gives-error-a-required-security-module-cannot-be-activated--this-program-cannot-be-executed-5024.aspx
>
> I found that too five minutes ago.
>
> Unfortunately, closing Process Explorer still doesn't let me run the game.
Did you try rebooting? And have you downloaded the latest patch?
~Steve~
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:498b0ada$1@news.povray.org...
> Did you try rebooting? And have you downloaded the latest patch?
Oh, and I seem to remember doing this myself, but not sure if it was
related:
"Apparently Microsoft hotfix KB917422 causes SecurROM to go the way of the
dodo. Removed this hotfix and BAM the game works!"
~Steve~
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:38:15 +0000, St. wrote:
>> enter your birthday".
>>
>> Uh... WTF?
>
> Yeah, stupid, eh?
You can thank one of the Children's Online Protection acts for that
question being asked - the content apparently requires age verification
to see.
Like many/any will tell the truth there if they're, say, 14.
Jim
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Orchid XP v8 escreveu:
>>> - My old GPU was already fast enough to do just about anything you
>>> could want. The new one is approximately 4x better according to
>>> 3Dmark 05, but since the old one was already good enough, there's not
>>> really any visible benefit.
>>
>> Now I'm puzzled. What is it that you do with your computer if you don't
>> play games? You don't sound to me like a person who owns a computer to do
>> business with it, so what else is a computer nerd going to do with it?
>
> What's the name of this news server? ;-)
>
> No, seriously... I run POV-Ray, FractInt, Apophysis, and various other
> compute-bounded pretty picture generators.
But you know povray doesn't use the GPU.
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>> Unfortunately, closing Process Explorer still doesn't let me run the game.
>
> Did you try rebooting? And have you downloaded the latest patch?
Well, I have Process Explorer set to start automatically at boot. :-P
I disabled this, rebooted, and now Crysis runs just fine. WTF?? o_O
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Like many/any will tell the truth there if they're, say, 14.
It's a test of math skills then? :-D
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>> No, seriously... I run POV-Ray, FractInt, Apophysis, and various other
>> compute-bounded pretty picture generators.
>
> But you know povray doesn't use the GPU.
Indeed yes. But there's a Flame renderer that does. (Or is supposed to,
anyway...)
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:43:00 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, closing Process Explorer still doesn't let me run the
>>> game.
>> Did you try rebooting? And have you downloaded the latest patch?
>
> Well, I have Process Explorer set to start automatically at boot. :-P
>
> I disabled this, rebooted, and now Crysis runs just fine. WTF?? o_O
Earlier versions of PE loaded a driver that does not get unloaded when you
exit PE. Newer versions do not have this problem, i.e. closing PE is
enough.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> and anisotropic texture filtering
What does this mean, btw? I know what the words mean, but what effect does
it have on the visuals? Is it just that some of the filters that represent
anisotropic surfaces get their visuals improved, or does it apply to
surfaces based on real materials that are isotropic?
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Like many/any will tell the truth there if they're, say, 14.
That's not the point of the question. The point of the question is legal
coverage. Valve doesn't care if children see it. Valve only cares if lawyers
will yell at them for letting children see it.
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:28:31 +0100, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> and anisotropic texture filtering
>
> What does this mean, btw? I know what the words mean, but what effect
> does it have on the visuals? Is it just that some of the filters that
> represent anisotropic surfaces get their visuals improved, or does it
> apply to surfaces based on real materials that are isotropic?
http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=anisotropic+texture+filtering
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>> and anisotropic texture filtering
>
> What does this mean, btw? I know what the words mean, but what effect
> does it have on the visuals? Is it just that some of the filters that
> represent anisotropic surfaces get their visuals improved, or does it
> apply to surfaces based on real materials that are isotropic?
Textures viewed "edge-on" look better.
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Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=anisotropic+texture+filtering
Thanks!
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, closing Process Explorer still doesn't let me run the
>>> game.
>>
>> Did you try rebooting? And have you downloaded the latest patch?
>
> Well, I have Process Explorer set to start automatically at boot. :-P
>
> I disabled this, rebooted, and now Crysis runs just fine. WTF?? o_O
>
SecuROM sucks. :)
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:29:48 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Like many/any will tell the truth there if they're, say, 14.
>
> That's not the point of the question. The point of the question is legal
> coverage. Valve doesn't care if children see it. Valve only cares if
> lawyers will yell at them for letting children see it.
Yes, I do know that - it's kinda stupid that one has to cover oneself
using a method that anyone/everyone lies when using.
I'm over 18 (obviously) and I sometimes use fake dates on those age
verification forms, because I'm old enough and by how much isn't any of
their business.
Jim
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:43:35 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Like many/any will tell the truth there if they're, say, 14.
>
> It's a test of math skills then? :-D
LOL, good one. :-)
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
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> Yes, I do know that - it's kinda stupid that one has to cover oneself
> using a method that anyone/everyone lies when using.
Leisure Suit Larry had such question at the start of the game. I once
tested what it says if you answer under 18 :).
> I'm over 18 (obviously) and I sometimes use fake dates on those age
> verification forms, because I'm old enough and by how much isn't any of
> their business.
If there's pull-down menus, it's enough to check the year far enough,
then just slap something to month and date.
> Jim
-Aero
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On 2/4/2009 11:47 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>
>> Advice: When you're going to shell out lots of money, do your research
>> to find out whether the product can actually do what you want.
>
> Yeah. I made the mistake of assuming that just because the product I
> bought says CUDA all over it, it would be able to do CUDA...
>
Have you actually researched CUDA?
Do you plan on using it yourself?
I've looked into it a bit, and it's not useful for anything I would want
to do.
There actually IS a version of TMPGEnc that uses it... to run slower
than an Intel Core 2 Quad. Great achievement, NVidia.
OpenCL, whenever it gets released (the specs have been finalized, I
believe) *looks* useful, just like CUDA *looks* useful (although OpenCL
is vendor agnostic, so you've got access to a much larger installed
base), but we have no way of knowing how fast things will run until AMD
and NVidia get some implementations finished & shipped (hopefully later
this year, but if they have to cut staff then maybe early next).
--
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:41:47 +0200, Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I do know that - it's kinda stupid that one has to cover oneself
>> using a method that anyone/everyone lies when using.
>
> Leisure Suit Larry had such question at the start of the game. I once
> tested what it says if you answer under 18 :).
I remember that, yeah. Used to sell it, in fact - even though I was
under 18. That was kinda weird, but it was a funny game.
>> I'm over 18 (obviously) and I sometimes use fake dates on those age
>> verification forms, because I'm old enough and by how much isn't any of
>> their business.
>
> If there's pull-down menus, it's enough to check the year far enough,
> then just slap something to month and date.
Yeah, though often I'll pick the earliest year. I figure if they're
using the data for demographic research, something that throws the stats
off is a bonus. ;-)
Jim
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