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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Bitter failure
Date: 4 Feb 2009 17:05:20
Message: <498a1120$1@news.povray.org>
Well, now I'm really heartbroken.

I've got a shiny new GPU that I've spent hundreds of pounds on, and it's 
taken me over a week to get to the stage where I can use it. This should 
be the crowning glory!

However...

- My old GPU was already fast enough to do just about anything you could 
want. The new one is approximately 4x better according to 3Dmark 05, but 
since the old one was already good enough, there's not really any 
visible benefit.

- It comes with a free license key to unlock the full version of 3Dmark 
Vantage. I've run several versions of 3Dmark, but always the crippled 
"free" version that hardly does anything. Finally, I can run a full 
version... Wait, no I can't. It *demands* Windows Vista and refuses to 
work without it. (Which I guess is fair enough; it's entire purpose is 
to test all the new DirectX 10 stuff.)

- One night I sat down and ran all the demos from nVidia's website. The 
last few wouldn't run because I only had a 7-series GPU. In particular, 
I dearly wanted to run Cascades. Now I have a suitable GPU, and I can 
fina- wait, no, *this* demands DirectX 10 also. As do almost all the 
demos I couldn't run before, actually.

- One of the main reasons I went for this super-expensive GPU rather 
than just buying a much cheaper model was so that I could have CUDA 
support. I'm extremely excited about this technology, which became 
available just *after* I got my previous card. Finally I have a suitable 
GPU, and there's a Flame renderer that I dearly want to use. It does the 
same thing as the normal Flame renderer, just 50x faster! 8-D Except 
that... I can't make it work. It will render on the CPU, but nothing I 
do can convince it to use my beautiful new GPU to go trippy-fast.

In short, every single thing I wanted to do now I have this new GPU 
actually fails to work. I've spent hundreds and hundreds of pounds for 
nothing.

I want a hug... :'{

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Bitter failure
Date: 4 Feb 2009 17:12:19
Message: <498a12c3@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> - My old GPU was already fast enough to do just about anything you could 
> want. The new one is approximately 4x better according to 3Dmark 05, but 
> since the old one was already good enough, there's not really any 
> visible benefit.

  Now I'm puzzled. What is it that you do with your computer if you don't
play games? You don't sound to me like a person who owns a computer to do
business with it, so what else is a computer nerd going to do with it?

  Want some bang for your buck? Then go and buy same recent games.
Try, for example, BioShock or Mirror's Edge.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Bitter failure
Date: 4 Feb 2009 19:20:07
Message: <498a30b7$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> In short, every single thing I wanted to do now I have this new GPU
> actually fails to work. I've spent hundreds and hundreds of pounds for
> nothing.

	Advice: When you're going to shell out lots of money, do your research
to find out whether the product can actually do what you want.

-- 
Always remember that you are unique, just like everyone else.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Bitter failure
Date: 4 Feb 2009 19:26:54
Message: <498a324e$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Try, for example, BioShock or Mirror's Edge.

Both of which are pretty cool, actually. Altho I only played the demo of 
Mirror's Edge. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bitter failure
Date: 5 Feb 2009 02:24:53
Message: <498a9445$1@news.povray.org>
>> - My old GPU was already fast enough to do just about anything you could 
>> want. The new one is approximately 4x better according to 3Dmark 05, but 
>> since the old one was already good enough, there's not really any 
>> visible benefit.
> 
>   Now I'm puzzled. What is it that you do with your computer if you don't
> play games? You don't sound to me like a person who owns a computer to do
> business with it, so what else is a computer nerd going to do with it?

What's the name of this news server? ;-)

No, seriously... I run POV-Ray, FractInt, Apophysis, and various other 

music production software installed. There are of course always new 
programs to be written - in Haskell, naturally. And let us not forget 
chattering to you lot! :-P

Then there's the various computer games I play. Until HL2 came out, I 
never used to play computer games at all really. But since HL2, I've 
been playing quite a few Valve titles - the HL2 series, CSS, and most 
recently TF2.

>   Want some bang for your buck? Then go and buy same recent games.
> Try, for example, BioShock or Mirror's Edge.

I was under the impression that TF2 and HL2:EP2 *are* pretty recent 
games. ;-)

But anyway, I'm looking at getting hold of Crisis at some point. 
Presumably that will be a suitably vertical test of my hardware... (!)

(I'm also looking at Call of Duty 4, since apparently it's available for 
PC. Although the game everybody in my clan is talking about is Left 4 
Dead...)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bitter failure
Date: 5 Feb 2009 02:47:31
Message: <498a9993$1@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz wrote:

> 	Advice: When you're going to shell out lots of money, do your research
> to find out whether the product can actually do what you want.

Yeah. I made the mistake of assuming that just because the product I 
bought says CUDA all over it, it would be able to do CUDA...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Bitter failure
Date: 5 Feb 2009 06:16:04
Message: <498aca74@news.povray.org>
Seriously, if you want to 'test' your new kit, go and get Crysis. Load it up 
and put everything on 'High'. If you get something like 30 - 40 fps with 
*amazing* graphics, then it's working. :)

   Or... How about doing this?

     http://www.techmixer.com/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp/

    Can't say I've tried it, but I'm tempted if it will be useful.

     ~Steve~


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Bitter failure
Date: 5 Feb 2009 06:24:30
Message: <498acc6e$1@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:498aca74@news.povray.org...

>    Can't say I've tried it, but I'm tempted if it will be useful.

  Ah, no, that wouldn't work for me as my card isn't DX10 compatable.

   ~Steve~


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bitter failure
Date: 5 Feb 2009 06:40:10
Message: <498ad01a@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
> Seriously, if you want to 'test' your new kit, go and get Crysis. Load it up 
> and put everything on 'High'. If you get something like 30 - 40 fps with 
> *amazing* graphics, then it's working. :)

Heh. I just did that with CSS and TF2. Actually most of the settings 
were already at maximum, but I was able to turn on antialiasing (at the 
maximum setting) and anisotropic texture filtering (at the maximum 
setting). The difference in sharpness was modestly impressive.

TF2 also allowed me to change the texture detail from "high" to "very 
high". You know how I was saying the other day that you can't read the 
writing on things in computer games? Well... now you can! o_O I notice 
that not *all* the textures actually increase in resolution, but those 
that do... Damn, I can see the brushmarks where the walls have been 
painted, the grain in the wooden limbers, little bubbles in the 
paintwork, and I can now *read* all the posters and signs around the 
place. Yay, me!

Now, I just had a look on Steam to see if you can purchase Crysis that 
way. Apparently you can (FarCry too. But I already have that.) So I 
clicked on Crysis to read about it, and it says "to continue, please 
enter your birthday".

Uh... WTF?

>    Or... How about doing this?
> 
>      http://www.techmixer.com/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp/
> 
>     Can't say I've tried it, but I'm tempted if it will be useful.

Interesting. The page even claims it makes DirectX 10 work on machines 
lacking the necessary hardware acceleration. (I.e., it will work even 
without a DirectX 10 video card.) I'm almost tempted with this. :-P

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bitter failure
Date: 5 Feb 2009 07:01:26
Message: <498ad516$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
> Seriously, if you want to 'test' your new kit, go and get Crysis. Load it up 
> and put everything on 'High'. If you get something like 30 - 40 fps with 
> *amazing* graphics, then it's working. :)

OMFG!! I just watched the Crysis trailer, and my eyes nearly fell out of 
my head! O_O

Downloading now...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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