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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 2 Feb 2009 16:08:42
Message: <498760da$1@news.povray.org>
triple_r wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I wonder if you could somehow plot this on a circular graph with a
>> 12-month cycle?
> 
> Anything's possible, but conclusions are left as an exercise for the reader.
> (divisions are 5 degrees Celsius.)

Dude, that's pretty freaking crazy! :-D

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From: triple r
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 2 Feb 2009 16:10:00
Message: <web.49876046318e7a64ef2b9ba40@news.povray.org>
"triple_r" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> (divisions are 5 degrees Celsius.)

Oops, and blue is 1959, red is 2008.

 - Ricky


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 2 Feb 2009 21:41:57
Message: <4987aef5$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible a écrit :
> Yesterday my mum notified me of the "blizzard" outside. This consisted 
> of approximately 3 tiny snowflakes barely visible to the naked eye.
> 

To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee:  "That's not a snow storm.  THIS is a 
snow storm!"

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2020/2318998403_8d35c71609_o.jpg

Taken on March 8, 2008, at 3pm.  Notice how dark it was!  It was the 6th 
(and last!) snow storm of the winter, each dumping more than 30cm of snow.

The following pictures are as we dug ourselves out, the next day.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3498/3248690953_d3894342b9_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3362/3249518750_dff6685631_b.jpg

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From: Mike Hough
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 2 Feb 2009 21:47:46
Message: <4987b052@news.povray.org>
As of today the current snowfall total for the season here is 95.4 inches. 
More is supposed to be on the way tomorrow.

I made a little comic in honor of groundhog day, which is today



"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:4986c1dd@news.povray.org...
> Yesterday my mum notified me of the "blizzard" outside. This consisted
> of approximately 3 tiny snowflakes barely visible to the naked eye.
>
> Yesterday evening, the ground was about 20% covered in whiteness. If you
> imagine taking a chocolate cake and lightly sprinkling it with icing
> sugar, that's roughly what it looked like. (For extra points... go *get*
> a chocolate cake and eat it!)
>
> This morning, as I walked to my car there was approximately 15 mm of
> snow laying on the ground, and barely visible flakes were still
> continuing to fall. On the way to work, the snow cover gradually became
> thinner and thinner, until in Coventry there isn't even a full covering.
>
> On the radio I hear that the MET office has issued a country-wide Severe
> Weather Warning, schools and businesses have been closed, and the
> Highways Agency has advised people not to travel "unless absolutely
> necessary".
>
> Uh... WTF? It's not exactly like the Arctic out there! :-P


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 00:16:08
Message: <4987d318$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:41:57 -0500, Francois Labreque wrote:

> Taken on March 8, 2008, at 3pm.  Notice how dark it was!  It was the 6th
> (and last!) snow storm of the winter, each dumping more than 30cm of
> snow.

Impressive, but a lot of that looks like drifts rather than accumulation 
of precipitation. ;-)

Of course, now I can't find the photos I took from a couple years ago 
here in Utah. ;-)

Jim


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From: scott
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 02:58:27
Message: <4987f923$1@news.povray.org>
>> I wonder if you could somehow plot this on a circular graph with a
>> 12-month cycle?
>
> Anything's possible, but conclusions are left as an exercise for the 
> reader.
> (divisions are 5 degrees Celsius.)

Cool, but how about having the centre point as the minimum temperature in 
the dataset rather than zero - it looks a bit confusing with the negatives 
going into June and July - still really cool though - did you use POV for 
that?


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 03:04:37
Message: <4987fa95$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 
> OOC, how much snow is there in the various other parts of the world
> where POVers are reading this??

Southern Finland (~80km north from Helsinki central), somewhere around
15-20cm and been on the ground for a week or two.

-Aero


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From: scott
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 03:13:46
Message: <4987fcba$1@news.povray.org>
> Yes. I was saying, in a theoretical context, people often assume that 
> objects collide with no deformation, but presumably in the real world this 
> never actually happens...

I have never heard the assumption that the objects don't deform.  Assuming 
small elastic deformations during the collision is popular, or even small 
inelastic deformations, but never *no* deformation...

Even at school I remember doing the coefficient of restitution in physics 
classes, that allows you to calculate what happens during inelastic 
collisions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_restitution


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 03:59:00
Message: <49880754$1@news.povray.org>
Francois Labreque wrote:

> To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee:  "That's not a snow storm.  THIS is a 
> snow storm!"
> 
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2020/2318998403_8d35c71609_o.jpg
> 
> Taken on March 8, 2008, at 3pm.  Notice how dark it was!  It was the 6th 
> (and last!) snow storm of the winter, each dumping more than 30cm of snow.
> 
> The following pictures are as we dug ourselves out, the next day.
> 
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3498/3248690953_d3894342b9_o.jpg
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3362/3249518750_dff6685631_b.jpg

OMG! LOL!

I'm loving the way the snow is piled higher than an adult human... ;-)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 07:17:15
Message: <498835cb@news.povray.org>
This guy has a big job ahead of him...

http://englishrussia.com/images/norilsk_cars/2.jpg


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 07:29:27
Message: <498838a7$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> This guy has a big job ahead of him...
> 
> http://englishrussia.com/images/norilsk_cars/2.jpg

THIS IS A SNOW STORM!! :-D


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 07:39:54
Message: <49883b1a@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Yeah, maybe. I guess the government doesn't want to hear the whole "why 
> didn't you warn people?" thing, or "why didn't you take action?". (OTOH, 
> it didn't seem to be a problem for New Orleans...)

I'm pretty sure the people knew a hurricane was coming towards their 
city, and that they knew their city was built below sea level.  Not my 
fault they didn't get out of the way.

Regards,
John


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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 09:56:32
Message: <op.uor6f51mmn4jds@phils>
And lo On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:35:18 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake thusly:

> I can remember 1995 or so, there was a lot of snow one day. About 20 cm  
> or so. Not huge, but a lot. Nobody seemed to really pay much attention.  
> A few people got slightly stuck or something, but nobody considered it a  
> big deal. Yet today, it's a catastrophy... hmm.

That's because the snow fell somewhere up North, this time it fell  
somewhere important ;-).

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 3 Feb 2009 09:58:04
Message: <49885b7c$1@news.povray.org>
>> I can remember 1995 or so, there was a lot of snow one day. About 20 
>> cm or so. Not huge, but a lot. Nobody seemed to really pay much 
>> attention. A few people got slightly stuck or something, but nobody 
>> considered it a big deal. Yet today, it's a catastrophy... hmm.
> 
> That's because the snow fell somewhere up North, this time it fell 
> somewhere important ;-).

Oooo! :-P


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 4 Feb 2009 07:45:51
Message: <49898dff$1@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle a écrit :
> Invisible wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, maybe. I guess the government doesn't want to hear the whole 
>> "why didn't you warn people?" thing, or "why didn't you take action?". 
>> (OTOH, it didn't seem to be a problem for New Orleans...)
> 
> I'm pretty sure the people knew a hurricane was coming towards their 
> city, and that they knew their city was built below sea level.  Not my 
> fault they didn't get out of the way.
> 

You're a single mom with three kids, a dog, a sick grandmother, no car 
and 17$.  Where do you go?  How?

Some people were idiots for trying to ride the storm (see also 
Galveston, TX, last summer), but many people stayed because they had no 
other alternative.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 4 Feb 2009 10:29:14
Message: <4989b44a$1@news.povray.org>
Francois Labreque wrote:
> You're a single mom with three kids, a dog, a sick grandmother, no car 
> and 17$.  Where do you go?  How?

Not to be cruel, but that's kind of why you're living there. It's cheap 
enough for you to afford because every once in a while, you're totally 
hosed. If you could afford to flee on a day's notice, you wouldn't be living 
where you might have to flee on a day's notice.

-- 
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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 4 Feb 2009 19:01:31
Message: <498a2c5b$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> For referense, *this* is "heavy snow":
> 
>> http://www.telenendaz.ch/documents/fond%20ecran/1024boardercross.jpg
> 
>   That's not heavy snow. This is heavy snow:
> 
>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wear/features/2004/12/images/weather_gallery/snow_in_canada_400x300.jpg

Hehe

- We have some snow here in Norway too:

http://www.prohd.no/Bilder/Folgefonna/Snowfres-kanter.jpg
http://www.prohd.no/Bilder/Folgefonna/Broytekant%2016%20mai%202008.jpg
http://www.prohd.no/Flash%20bilder/Fonna%2016%20april%202008/slides/p_0006.jpg

The images are from this page:
http://www.prohd.no/Frames/ProHD_Folgefonna.html

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 5 Feb 2009 02:13:57
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Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:

> - We have some snow here in Norway too:
> 
> http://www.prohd.no/Bilder/Folgefonna/Snowfres-kanter.jpg
> http://www.prohd.no/Bilder/Folgefonna/Broytekant%2016%20mai%202008.jpg
> http://www.prohd.no/Flash%20bilder/Fonna%2016%20april%202008/slides/p_0006.jpg 

Jesus... Dude, should you be walking quite that close to the walls? Are 
they stable??

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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 5 Feb 2009 21:20:57
Message: <498b9e89@news.povray.org>
Francois Labreque wrote:
> John VanSickle a écrit :
>> Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, maybe. I guess the government doesn't want to hear the whole 
>>> "why didn't you warn people?" thing, or "why didn't you take 
>>> action?". (OTOH, it didn't seem to be a problem for New Orleans...)
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the people knew a hurricane was coming towards their 
>> city, and that they knew their city was built below sea level.  Not my 
>> fault they didn't get out of the way.
> 
> You're a single mom with three kids, a dog, a sick grandmother, no car 
> and 17$.  Where do you go?  How?

Some verifiable statistics on how many people fell into this category of 
need would be useful to the debate.

Regards,
John


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 5 Feb 2009 22:33:29
Message: <498baf89@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Uh... WTF? It's not exactly like the Arctic out there! :-P

Speaking of wtf...

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Malaven/Star%20Wars%20Miniatures/Hoth003.jpg

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 6 Feb 2009 07:56:17
Message: <498c3371$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> Speaking of wtf...
> 
> http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Malaven/Star%20Wars%20Miniatures/Hoth003.jpg 

Er, niner-niner, whiskey tango foxtrot, what's your six? Over. ._.

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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 6 Feb 2009 14:26:17
Message: <498c8ed9$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> 
>> Speaking of wtf...
>>
>> http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/Malaven/Star%20Wars%20Miniatures/Hoth003.jpg 
> 
> 
> Er, niner-niner, whiskey tango foxtrot, what's your six? Over. ._.

Shouldn't that be Echo Three to Echo Seven?

Great photo, btw :-D


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: White is in the winter
Date: 6 Feb 2009 14:35:59
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>> Er, niner-niner, whiskey tango foxtrot, what's your six? Over. ._.
> 
> Shouldn't that be Echo Three to Echo Seven?

No idea.

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