On 1/26/2009 8:42 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:03:14 -0800, stbenge wrote:
>
>> I run a lot of tests over here, though very few ever make it to the
>> public. I figured this image was worth posting, even if it is
>> unfinished.
>
> It brings to mind one of the episodes of CBS Radio Mystery Theater that I
> listened to earlier today - entitled "Escape!  Escape!".
>
> The upshot was some escaped convicts ended up being shrunk down to ant-
> size and placed in a terrarium.
>
> Jim

Is that the same series that had the woman applying for a private 
nursing position, and finds out the man has been killing everyone who 
applied?

They also had one with growth hormone experiments resulting in giant 
worms that killed everyone :)

...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:46:51 -0800, Chambers wrote:

> On 1/26/2009 8:42 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:03:14 -0800, stbenge wrote:
>>
>>> I run a lot of tests over here, though very few ever make it to the
>>> public. I figured this image was worth posting, even if it is
>>> unfinished.
>>
>> It brings to mind one of the episodes of CBS Radio Mystery Theater that
>> I listened to earlier today - entitled "Escape!  Escape!".
>>
>> The upshot was some escaped convicts ended up being shrunk down to ant-
>> size and placed in a terrarium.
>>
>> Jim
> 
> Is that the same series that had the woman applying for a private
> nursing position, and finds out the man has been killing everyone who
> applied?

Very possibly, there were lots of stories written just for the show by a 
handful of writers, along with many adaptations of well-known stories 
(Jekyll & Hyde, for example).

> They also had one with growth hormone experiments resulting in giant
> worms that killed everyone :)

LOL.  Some of the ideas were out there.  There was one recently where 
trained rats were used as a murder weapon.  Except that it went wrong.

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> LOL.  Some of the ideas were out there.  There was one recently where 
> trained rats were used as a murder weapon.  Except that it went wrong.

I always liked the idea of the homeopath killer. Dilute some penicillin 
10^100 times, then pour it in someone's drink. Three days later, he's dead 
of random untreatable infections, and nobody can tell where they came from.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:36:54 -0800, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> LOL.  Some of the ideas were out there.  There was one recently where
>> trained rats were used as a murder weapon.  Except that it went wrong.
> 
> I always liked the idea of the homeopath killer. Dilute some penicillin
> 10^100 times, then pour it in someone's drink. Three days later, he's
> dead of random untreatable infections, and nobody can tell where they
> came from.

I wonder if there's an episode with that premise.  With as many as there 
are, I wouldn't be surprised. :-)

But it could take me 9 years to listen to them all at the rate I'm going 
(1-3 a day once every couple of weeks).  Actually, at that rate, it could 
take much longer. :-)

Jim

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Darren New escreveu:
> I always liked the idea of the homeopath killer. Dilute some penicillin 
> 10^100 times, then pour it in someone's drink. Three days later, he's 
> dead of random untreatable infections, and nobody can tell where they 
> came from.

WTH?!  I thought penicilin would cure! :P

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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New escreveu:
>> I always liked the idea of the homeopath killer. Dilute some 
>> penicillin 10^100 times, then pour it in someone's drink. Three days 
>> later, he's dead of random untreatable infections, and nobody can tell 
>> where they came from.
> 
> WTH?!  I thought penicilin would cure! :P

Yes, if you believe this psuedoscience, highly dilute penicilin would 
act as an extremely potent antibiotic - which would have no real 
detectable effects at all. (Other than a 30% reduction in your ability 
to digest certain nutriants...)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Yes, if you believe this psuedoscience, highly dilute penicilin would 
> act as an extremely potent antibiotic 

No. To make a homeopathic remedy, you dilute something that causes the 
symptoms. So to make a cure for poison ivy, you dilute something that 
irritates your skin. The idea being (I think) that your body naturally 
fights off the very dilute stuff and in so doing cures the poison ivy, too.

So dilute penicillin causes infections.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> > Yes, if you believe this psuedoscience, highly dilute penicilin would
> > act as an extremely potent antibiotic
>
> No. To make a homeopathic remedy, you dilute something that causes the
> symptoms. So to make a cure for poison ivy, you dilute something that
> irritates your skin. The idea being (I think) that your body naturally
> fights off the very dilute stuff and in so doing cures the poison ivy, too.
>
> So dilute penicillin causes infections.

Sounds highly counterintuitive.

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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> No. To make a homeopathic remedy, you dilute something that causes the
>> symptoms. So to make a cure for poison ivy, you dilute something that
>> irritates your skin. The idea being (I think) that your body naturally
>> fights off the very dilute stuff and in so doing cures the poison ivy, 
>> too.
>>
>> So dilute penicillin causes infections.
>
> Sounds highly counterintuitive.

Dilute penicillin . . . causes your body to develop an immunity to 
penicillin?
*shrug*

-- 
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net

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Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Yes, if you believe this psuedoscience, highly dilute penicilin would 
>> act as an extremely potent antibiotic 
> 
> No. To make a homeopathic remedy, you dilute something that causes the 
> symptoms.

OK. I must be thinking of a different (but equally stupid) branch of 
psuedoscience. :-)

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alphaQuad wrote:
> Kyle <no### [at] spamok> wrote:
>> stbenge wrote:
>>> alphaQuad wrote:
>>>> OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy
>>>> government
>>>> turd-sandwiches
>>> That could get messy, and you'd better have a good case.
>>>
>>> I know we need to have some of the drug laws changed though; minor drug
>>> offenders are still going to jail with violent criminals. And for a less
>>> harmful drug than tobacco or alcohol... Both sides are still advancing
>>> though, so don't think nothing is being done. It's just moving at a
>>> snail's pace.
>>>
>>> It's good to remember that not all government offices are corrupt. But
>>> the ones that are stink more than the rest. I get the feeling that a lot
>>> of people in the loop stand idle while dirty deeds are afoot :(
>>>
>>> Sam
>> Sam, you're feeding our resident troll.  :-/
> 
> 
> Assuming that could only mean me and you don’t have the guts to use my proper
> handle.

Who else could I have possibly meant?

> Where's all those great pictures you've rendered and posted. I do
> better looking stuff than you can imagine and more often that anyone else.

I'll grant you the "more often" part, as you endlessly reply to your own 
threads with a tiresome array of slightly varied versions of the same 
image.  I do like many of your images, and think you do well in that 
regard, but so many images of the same scene becomes tiresome.

You're welcome to search these newsgroups and other websites for 
pictures I've posted.

> Trolls only twist reality into some self-serving tool of manipulation has you
> clearly do well. There's mirror in your bathroom, you do have a bathroom? Meet
> a real troll. U POS

Why don't you just tell me how you really feel?  LOL!!!

You definitely fit the definition of a troll.  For starters, just read 
the first paragraph here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

> Sam is obviously the most intelligent person on this board, but your
> manipulation of him is by far the most "trollie" thing I've seen yet.
> 

Sorry Sam for all of my "manipulation".  LOL!!!

Again, this is laughable, as I was not the one to reply to his great 
image with political garbage to incite a response.

BTW, expect no further responses from me, as I will ignore your posts. 
I may perhaps continue to point out your continued trolling to others 
when they reply to your ridiculously off-topic posts.

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:36:42 -0500, nemesis wrote:

> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> > Yes, if you believe this psuedoscience, highly dilute penicilin would
>> > act as an extremely potent antibiotic
>>
>> No. To make a homeopathic remedy, you dilute something that causes the
>> symptoms. So to make a cure for poison ivy, you dilute something that
>> irritates your skin. The idea being (I think) that your body naturally
>> fights off the very dilute stuff and in so doing cures the poison ivy,
>> too.
>>
>> So dilute penicillin causes infections.
> 
> Sounds highly counterintuitive.

Perhaps, but it's a technique used in medical circles as well.  
Immunotherapy is based on the same basic principle:  You inject someone 
with small doses of what they're allergic to, and that stimulates the 
lymph nodes to "do their thing" in order to suppress allergic reactions.

Been doing this for about a year and a half myself.

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Perhaps, but it's a technique used in medical circles as well.  

Not quite.

> Immunotherapy is based on the same basic principle:  You inject someone 
> with small doses of what they're allergic to,

Different principle. In homeopathy, you inject people with small doses of 
distilled water that at one time was near some molecules of what you were 
allergic to, and the ghosts of those molecules stimulate you to do your thing.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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Kyle <no### [at] spamok> wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
> > Kyle <no### [at] spamok> wrote:
> >> stbenge wrote:
> >>> alphaQuad wrote:
> >>>> OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy
> >>>> government
> >>>> turd-sandwiches
> >>> That could get messy, and you'd better have a good case.
> >>>
> >>> I know we need to have some of the drug laws changed though; minor drug
> >>> offenders are still going to jail with violent criminals. And for a less
> >>> harmful drug than tobacco or alcohol... Both sides are still advancing
> >>> though, so don't think nothing is being done. It's just moving at a
> >>> snail's pace.
> >>>
> >>> It's good to remember that not all government offices are corrupt. But
> >>> the ones that are stink more than the rest. I get the feeling that a lot
> >>> of people in the loop stand idle while dirty deeds are afoot :(
> >>>
> >>> Sam
> >> Sam, you're feeding our resident troll.  :-/
> >
> >
> > Assuming that could only mean me and you don’t have the guts to use my proper
> > handle.
>
> Who else could I have possibly meant?
>
> > Where's all those great pictures you've rendered and posted. I do
> > better looking stuff than you can imagine and more often that anyone else.
>
> I'll grant you the "more often" part, as you endlessly reply to your own
> threads with a tiresome array of slightly varied versions of the same
> image.  I do like many of your images, and think you do well in that
> regard, but so many images of the same scene becomes tiresome.
>
> You're welcome to search these newsgroups and other websites for
> pictures I've posted.
>
> > Trolls only twist reality into some self-serving tool of manipulation has you
> > clearly do well. There's mirror in your bathroom, you do have a bathroom? Meet
> > a real troll. U POS
>
> Why don't you just tell me how you really feel?  LOL!!!
>
> You definitely fit the definition of a troll.  For starters, just read
> the first paragraph here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
>
> > Sam is obviously the most intelligent person on this board, but your
> > manipulation of him is by far the most "trollie" thing I've seen yet.
> >
>
> Sorry Sam for all of my "manipulation".  LOL!!!
>
> Again, this is laughable, as I was not the one to reply to his great
> image with political garbage to incite a response.
>
> BTW, expect no further responses from me, as I will ignore your posts.
> I may perhaps continue to point out your continued trolling to others
> when they reply to your ridiculously off-topic posts.

This is "Kyle Hougen", right?

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:15:35 -0500, Kyle wrote:

> BTW, expect no further responses from me, as I will ignore your posts.

There's a reason I scored posts from AQ as -9999 in my reader.  I still 
see them, but it's a reminder to me to not reply to them.

Jim

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Kyle <no### [at] spamok> wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
> > Kyle <no### [at] spamok> wrote:
> >> stbenge wrote:
> >>> alphaQuad wrote:
> >>>> OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy
> >>>> government
> >>>> turd-sandwiches
> >>> That could get messy, and you'd better have a good case.
> >>>
> >>> I know we need to have some of the drug laws changed though; minor drug
> >>> offenders are still going to jail with violent criminals. And for a less
> >>> harmful drug than tobacco or alcohol... Both sides are still advancing
> >>> though, so don't think nothing is being done. It's just moving at a
> >>> snail's pace.
> >>>
> >>> It's good to remember that not all government offices are corrupt. But
> >>> the ones that are stink more than the rest. I get the feeling that a lot
> >>> of people in the loop stand idle while dirty deeds are afoot :(
> >>>
> >>> Sam
> >> Sam, you're feeding our resident troll.  :-/
> >
> >
> > Assuming that could only mean me and you don’t have the guts to use my proper
> > handle.
>
> Who else could I have possibly meant?
>
> > Where's all those great pictures you've rendered and posted. I do
> > better looking stuff than you can imagine and more often that anyone else.
>
> I'll grant you the "more often" part, as you endlessly reply to your own
> threads with a tiresome array of slightly varied versions of the same
> image.  I do like many of your images, and think you do well in that
> regard, but so many images of the same scene becomes tiresome.
>
> You're welcome to search these newsgroups and other websites for
> pictures I've posted.
>
> > Trolls only twist reality into some self-serving tool of manipulation has you
> > clearly do well. There's mirror in your bathroom, you do have a bathroom? Meet
> > a real troll. U POS
>
> Why don't you just tell me how you really feel?  LOL!!!
>
> You definitely fit the definition of a troll.  For starters, just read
> the first paragraph here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
>
> > Sam is obviously the most intelligent person on this board, but your
> > manipulation of him is by far the most "trollie" thing I've seen yet.
> >
>
> Sorry Sam for all of my "manipulation".  LOL!!!
>
> Again, this is laughable, as I was not the one to reply to his great
> image with political garbage to incite a response.
>
> BTW, expect no further responses from me, as I will ignore your posts.
> I may perhaps continue to point out your continued trolling to others
> when they reply to your ridiculously off-topic posts.



I don’t have time to wait for you to admit your true identity. If you are Kyle
Hougen, you'll deny it after this. Something you started with your negativity.

My perfectly relevant comment had a reply that was the beginning of interesting
conversation you needed to stifle for your personal agenda, the actions of true
troll. A Troll's only purpose is cut people down rather than add anything
material or relevant to the conversation.

Looked in that mirror yet? Anagrams invariably tell a great deal about a person
and I'll prove that in just a minute but first take look at who or what we are
dealing. If this is in fact the Kyle Hougen.

"Little Strokes, Fell great Oaks." -Benjamin Franklin, statesman, author, and
inventor (1706-1790)

Kyle Hougen
Unholy Geek
Keyhole Gun
Hokey Lunge
Eek Ugly Hon
Hug Lone Key
Hunk Ego Lye
Hey Nuke Log


Nope can't really spell anything wonderful with such trollie name;


PROOF: (that Anagrams tell our story)
CLINT EASTWOOD = OLD WEST ACTION & lies down to act
WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON = JAIL MRS CLINTON FELON WIFE
GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH = HUGE BERSERK REBEL WARTHOG
RONALD WILSON REAGAN = INSANE ANGLO WARLORD
Richard Milhouse Nixon =  his climax ruined honor
Sprio Agnew = Grow a penis

Ronald Reagan: an oral danger
Ronald Wilson Reagan: a long insane warlord & no darlings, no ERA law
Madonna, the material girl: real dim, man-eating harlot
Madonna Louise Ciccone: occasional nude income & one cool dance musician

President Clinton of the USA: he finds interns to copulate
Britney Spears: best PR in years
Justin Timberlake: I'm a jerk, but listen
Arnold Schwarzenegger: he's grown large n' crazed
William Shatner: slim alien wrath & Will is earthman
Elvis Aaron Presley: Seen alive? Sorry, pal & earns lovely praise
David Letterman: terminal dead TV & nerd amid late TV
Jennifer Aniston: fine in torn jeans
Saddam Hussein: UNs said he's mad
Marilyn Monroe: in lore, my Norma & I marry loon men
Sean Connery: on any screen
Sharon Stone: no near shots & ass on throne
Jim Morrison: Mr. Mojo Risin'
Howard Stern: wonder trash
Frodo Baggins: bad ring's goof
Sherlock Holmes: heh smells crook
Babe Ruth: he rub bat
Robin Williams: I warm billions
Monty Python's Flying Circus: strongly psychotic, I'm funny
Steve Martin: I'm star event
James Marshall Hendrix: hinder lax, harmless jam
Princess Diana: ascend in Paris & end is a car spin
Stevie Wonder: er, doesn't view
Elvis Costello: voice sells lot
Paul McCartney: pay Mr. Clean cut

Some others:

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: oh sweet DVD wins new fans' heart
Albert Einstein: ten elite brains
Buffy the Vampire Slayer: pithy female braves fury
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: oh sweet DVD wins new fans' heart
How the West Was Won: What we shot we owns!
Judy Garland: darn jug lady
Cyndi Lauper: end up a lyric
Kevin Costner: sickener on TV
Agatha Christie: rich hag is at tea
Oscar Wilde: I lace words & ladies crow
Christopher Reeve: Script: he ever hero
Jerry Bruckheimer: rich jerk, mere bury
George W. Bush: he grew bogus.
Humphrey Bogart: grumpy hero bath
Teri Hatcher: rich theater
Harry Potter: try hero part
Academy Awards: saw drama decay
Thomas Alva Edison: aha ions made volts
Lee Harvey Oswald: revealed who slay & lay overhead slew
Mark Twain: am rank wit
Jackie Gleason: angelic as joke
The American Dream: meet a dear, rich man
Supreme Court: computer user & corrupt? Sue Me!
William Shakespeare: I’ll make a wise phrase & I am a weakfish speller.
Declaration of Independence: no finer deed, an ideal concept
Napoleon Bonaparte : no, not appear on Elba & no, a trap open on Elba!
(who was exiled on the island of Elba)

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:47:50 -0800, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Perhaps, but it's a technique used in medical circles as well.
> 
> Not quite.
> 
>> Immunotherapy is based on the same basic principle:  You inject someone
>> with small doses of what they're allergic to,
> 
> Different principle. In homeopathy, you inject people with small doses
> of distilled water that at one time was near some molecules of what you
> were allergic to, and the ghosts of those molecules stimulate you to do
> your thing.

Basically it's a similar principle, though.

Jim

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Darren New wrote:

> 
> No. To make a homeopathic remedy, you dilute something that causes the 
> symptoms. So to make a cure for poison ivy, you dilute something that 
> irritates your skin. The idea being (I think) that your body naturally 
> fights off the very dilute stuff and in so doing cures the poison ivy, too.
> 
> So dilute penicillin causes infections.
> 

 From what I understand, the dilution ratios are so extreme, you're 
lucky if you get one molecule of the "active" ingredient.

Homeopathy is quackery at its finest.

I had a cold, someone offered me some homeopathic cold "remedy" it was 
basically a sugar pill. It did nothing for me.

I can take a mL of something, dilute it by adding 10L of water, take a 
ml of that mixture, dilute it with 10L of water, repeat 10 times and 
make a fine profit, too, you know. Just have to get a tiny vial of 
wolfsbane, a small ampule of digitalis, and I'll have tens of thousands 
of doses of my brand new homeopathic tonic. Guaranteed to cure death, 
seasickness, insomnia, and constipation. Just put a couple drops on your 
tongue!

I have a few cases of 10000X diluted snake oil in the back. It'll cure 
rattlesnake bites. I promise! Just give it a few days to work.

Read the dilution scale...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathic


-- 
~Mike

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:47:50 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> 
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> Perhaps, but it's a technique used in medical circles as well.
>> Not quite.
>>
>>> Immunotherapy is based on the same basic principle:  You inject someone
>>> with small doses of what they're allergic to,
>> Different principle. In homeopathy, you inject people with small doses
>> of distilled water that at one time was near some molecules of what you
>> were allergic to, and the ghosts of those molecules stimulate you to do
>> your thing.
> 
> Basically it's a similar principle, though.

Except for the part about ghosts.

Faith healing and antibiotics are the same thing too, except for the part 
about the germ theory of disease. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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Mike Raiford wrote:
> I can take a mL of something, dilute it by adding 10L of water, take a 
> ml of that mixture, dilute it with 10L of water, repeat 10 times and 
> make a fine profit, too, you know. 

And what do they do with the 9.99999L of solution they didn't keep? They 
pour it down the drain! Where it gets diluted by the ocean!  So, really, 
take a trip to the beach. It'll cure anything.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:47:50 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> >
> >> Jim Henderson wrote:
> >>> Perhaps, but it's a technique used in medical circles as well.
> >> Not quite.
> >>
> >>> Immunotherapy is based on the same basic principle:  You inject someone
> >>> with small doses of what they're allergic to,
> >> Different principle. In homeopathy, you inject people with small doses
> >> of distilled water that at one time was near some molecules of what you
> >> were allergic to, and the ghosts of those molecules stimulate you to do
> >> your thing.

Without going into detail, my understanding is that homeopathy has empirical
(observed, experiential, pragmatic) impact on the body. But your explanation
really paints a clearer picture of the reality. Fascinating.


> >
> > Basically it's a similar principle, though.
>
> Except for the part about ghosts.
>
> Faith healing and antibiotics are the same thing too, except for the part
> about the germ theory of disease. :-)
>
> --
>    Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
>    "Ouch ouch ouch!"
>    "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
>    "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

WOW and in spite of Kyle's attempt to squash the conversation an interesting
point of view as been presented stemming from Sam's excellent redirection, that
Kyle TRIED (and apparently was successful) to stifle by degrading and cutting
down others. Too bad Sam is not here to discuss this now, because he always has
the most brilliant words and valid information.

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alphaQuad wrote:
> Without going into detail, my understanding is that homeopathy has empirical
> (observed, experiential, pragmatic) impact on the body.

So do sugar pills. :-)

This guy, "Gary Null", seems to think there are a lot of "meta-studies" 
showing it works.
http://www.garynull.com/documents/articlesfromorgs/homeopathy_scientific_research.htm
I think it's likely that in the cases where it works, it's due to placebo 
effect or (most likely) selective reporting.

To be fair, there was one actual scientist who actually tried a homeopathic 
remedy on ameobas or something, and had it have statistically-significant 
effects, and asked for someone else to try to replicate it. Since I've been 
hearing this for years and never heard of any follow-up, I assume nobody 
could replicate it. (Maybe it's the one referenced in the "In Vitro Studies" 
I'm thinking of, in the next link below.)

Some interesting history: 
http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/Medicine/Homeop.html


Hmmm. Apparently there has been a fair amount of positive results on the 
research, tho. It's still rather strange tho. Smaller doses give better 
responses with a lot of drugs, but that doesn't mean no dose works best.

Then you read stuff like this
http://purehealthsystems.com/homeopathic-science.html
and he talks about "messages" being transfered as "signatures" from actual 
medicine into distilled water.  I.e., the very contact of the drug with 
water means all the water in the jar takes on the attributes of the drug.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:54:18 -0800, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:47:50 -0800, Darren New wrote:
>> 
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> Perhaps, but it's a technique used in medical circles as well.
>>> Not quite.
>>>
>>>> Immunotherapy is based on the same basic principle:  You inject
>>>> someone with small doses of what they're allergic to,
>>> Different principle. In homeopathy, you inject people with small doses
>>> of distilled water that at one time was near some molecules of what
>>> you were allergic to, and the ghosts of those molecules stimulate you
>>> to do your thing.
>> 
>> Basically it's a similar principle, though.
> 
> Except for the part about ghosts.

Well, yeah, except for that.

> Faith healing and antibiotics are the same thing too, except for the
> part about the germ theory of disease. :-)

LOL

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Kyle <no### [at] spamok> wrote:



>
> BTW, expect no further responses from me, as I will ignore your posts.
> I may perhaps continue to point out your continued trolling to others
> when they reply to your ridiculously off-topic posts.

Yah you better run. I'll will continue to tell thruth about you. You are the
troll interupting a perfectly legit conversation.

> You're welcome to search these newsgroups and other websites for
> pictures I've posted.

I do not accept any welcome from you without and apology and an admission of
were you went wrong in disrespecting other people.

A Troll as call me does exactly what you did, interrupt the conversations of
others with degrading and derogatory remarks, the mirror still awaits you.

If I were to ask you if it makes you feel superior to attack and cut down
others, and IF you were honest, you'd say, "Yes, that’s why I do it. I have no
emotion to make me do otherwise."

A real person however would say, "No, it doesn’t make me feel superior, that's
why I don’t do it. I have an emotional body to disallow such moronic nonsense.

You have superiority complex that needs feeding that is why you are so lame.
Your superiority complex is too big for you to handle or you would apologize.
Handle it or I will with the truth about you. And THAT, my dear lame friend, is
why you run now.

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Darren New wrote:

> 
> And what do they do with the 9.99999L of solution they didn't keep? They 
> pour it down the drain! Where it gets diluted by the ocean!  So, really, 
> take a trip to the beach. It'll cure anything.
> 

If I believe strongly enough maybe the placebo effect will work quite 
well, then.

-- 
~Mike

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alphaQuad wrote:

> ... snip paranoid raving ...

I believe Kyle has been here much longer than you. Like many others on 
this server he's just sick and tired of you.

-- 
~Mike

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