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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:32:22 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
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>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An
>> die Freude).
>
> 1. That was Beethoven?
>
> 2. There are *words*??
<facepalm>
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:55:36 -0500, Carlo C. wrote:
> Ah, Enya!
> *Caribbean Blue* : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Blue Engraved
> on my heart, forever!
I'm partial to "Book of Days", but I would love to hear the Gaelic
version of it (I've only heard the English version).
Jim
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Stephen wrote:
> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die
> Freude).
There's a reason it served as the inflection point in the movie "Equilibrium".
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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Invisible wrote:
> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and played
> it backwards and it still sounded the same.
So does "Musical Offering". :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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Darren New escreveu:
> Stephen wrote:
>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy"
>> (An die
>> Freude).
>
> There's a reason it served as the inflection point in the movie
> "Equilibrium".
>
Huh, I remember it was the first movement of the symphony. BTW, that
movie is a Matrix wannabe... :P
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Darren New escreveu:
> Invisible wrote:
>
>> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and
>> played it backwards and it still sounded the same.
>
> So does "Musical Offering". :-)
You sure jest! :)
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nemesis wrote:
> Huh, I remember it was the first movement of the symphony.
Well, yes, I think that's right. And given the record player, it probably
wasn't the whole symphony. (I guess "Ode to Joy" is just the last movement,
then, yes?)
> BTW, that movie is a Matrix wannabe... :P
That's why I rented it. The box said "like the Matrix!" and I figured that
would mean it's awful enough to be worth renting, while it actually turned
out to be one of my favorite movies.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New escreveu:
>> Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and
>>> played it backwards and it still sounded the same.
>>
>> So does "Musical Offering". :-)
>
> You sure jest! :)
No. Some of the movements (or whatever they're called) are the same melody
played forward and backward at the same time. Some are the same played right
side up and upside down. (Crab Canon is like that, too.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_canon
With POV-Ray, even:
http://strangepaths.com/canon-1-a-2/2009/01/18/en/
(Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Musical_Offering )
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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Darren New escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Darren New escreveu:
>>> Invisible wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and
>>>> played it backwards and it still sounded the same.
>>>
>>> So does "Musical Offering". :-)
>>
>> You sure jest! :)
>
> No. Some of the movements (or whatever they're called) are the same
> melody played forward and backward at the same time. Some are the same
> played right side up and upside down. (Crab Canon is like that, too.)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_canon
Yes, fugues and canons are recursive and self-referential musical pieces
based on variations over a single theme or 2 themes, the second itself
generally a variation of the first. Inversions are one such variation.
However, an inverted piece of melody doesn't mean the whole music will
sound the same if played backwards. That's why I thought you were jesting.
And I thought you were originally talking about Beethoven's 32 variations...
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nemesis wrote:
> However, an inverted piece of melody doesn't mean the whole music will
> sound the same if played backwards. That's why I thought you were jesting.
Not necessarily, but I've seen music Bach wrote that had exactly that
feature. It's probably mentioned in GEB somewhere.
> And I thought you were originally talking about Beethoven's 32
> variations...
I thought I was. Maybe I'm mistaken in exactly what's in there. I seem to be
confusing various Bach fugues and I'm unable to track down just which one I
was thinking of right now.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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