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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:09:26 -0500, triple_r wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>> > Dunno. What's he sound like?
>>
>> His later work is loud, largely due to his deafness. Check out his
>> fifth symphony (a very well known work) or the 9th.
>
> Or his late string quartets (~Op. 127-135), some of the last music he
> wrote, not to mention some of the best.
True, I always forget the quartets - also the solo works for stringed
instruments (with accompaniment) are quite good.
Jim
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:07:05 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> "triple_r" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> > > Dunno. What's he sound like?
>> >
>> > His later work is loud, largely due to his deafness. Check out his
>> > fifth symphony (a very well known work) or the 9th.
>>
>> Or his late string quartets (~Op. 127-135), some of the last music he
>> wrote, not to mention some of the best.
>
> I don't know what loudness you guys are talking about. If you're
> talking about dynamics of expression, Beethoven always had a passion for
> very contrasting dynamics. His music is filled with passion and extreme
> emotional states, even from before deafness: going from pianissimo to
> fortissimo and vice-versa -- using the full dynamic range the developing
> piano-forte allowed in contrast with the older harpsichord. How can you
> convey passion without dynamics?
Have you heard Barber's "Adagio for Strings"? Very passionate piece of
music (I've been fortunate enough to perform it as a member of an
orchestra), and while there is one notable section that is has a very
strong fortissimo, the quiet sections aren't any less passionate.
> Think Beethoven is loud? Ever heard Wagner? But yes, not too many
> people enjoyed his "savage" sounds, like Chopin once put it.
I regularly listen to the entire "Ring" cycle. Beethoven's loudness is
very different from Wagner's, but it is no less pronounced. The final
movement of the 9th symphony is kinda the epitome of this, but the later
works definitely have fewer quiet places than his earlier works.
Particularly when comparing the different periods of music the two
composed in; I could as easily argue that Beethoven is quiet as a mouse
compared to Aaron Copland, Howard Hanson, Igor Stravinsky, or Antonin
Dvorak. The four of them are much more modern composers than Beethoven.
Compared to his contemporaries, Beethoven was quite loud.
This is not to say Beethoven wasn't absolutely brilliant. It was, and I
listen to my collection of the 9 symphonies about as often as I listen to
the Wagner. There is a lot of musical variety just in those 9 works of
his.
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:07:05 -0500, nemesis wrote:
>
> > "triple_r" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> >> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> >> > > Dunno. What's he sound like?
> >> >
> >> > His later work is loud, largely due to his deafness. Check out his
> >> > fifth symphony (a very well known work) or the 9th.
> >>
> >> Or his late string quartets (~Op. 127-135), some of the last music he
> >> wrote, not to mention some of the best.
> >
> > I don't know what loudness you guys are talking about. If you're
> > talking about dynamics of expression, Beethoven always had a passion for
> > very contrasting dynamics. His music is filled with passion and extreme
> > emotional states, even from before deafness: going from pianissimo to
> > fortissimo and vice-versa -- using the full dynamic range the developing
> > piano-forte allowed in contrast with the older harpsichord. How can you
> > convey passion without dynamics?
>
> Have you heard Barber's "Adagio for Strings"? Very passionate piece of
> music (I've been fortunate enough to perform it as a member of an
> orchestra), and while there is one notable section that is has a very
> strong fortissimo, the quiet sections aren't any less passionate.
>
> > Think Beethoven is loud? Ever heard Wagner? But yes, not too many
> > people enjoyed his "savage" sounds, like Chopin once put it.
>
> I regularly listen to the entire "Ring" cycle. Beethoven's loudness is
> very different from Wagner's, but it is no less pronounced. The final
> movement of the 9th symphony is kinda the epitome of this, but the later
> works definitely have fewer quiet places than his earlier works.
>
> Particularly when comparing the different periods of music the two
> composed in; I could as easily argue that Beethoven is quiet as a mouse
> compared to Aaron Copland, Howard Hanson, Igor Stravinsky, or Antonin
> Dvorak. The four of them are much more modern composers than Beethoven.
> Compared to his contemporaries, Beethoven was quite loud.
>
> This is not to say Beethoven wasn't absolutely brilliant. It was, and I
> listen to my collection of the 9 symphonies about as often as I listen to
> the Wagner. There is a lot of musical variety just in those 9 works of
> his.
>
> Jim
Beethoven?
to understand what we are talking about... ;-)
Mp3:
Sinfonia n 1 in Do maggiore op. 21, 1952, Furtwängler Wilhelm
Sinfonia n 5 in Do minore op. 67, 1950, De Sabata Victor
Sinfonia n 6 in Fa maggiore op. 68 «Pastorale», 1954, Furtwängler, Wilhelm
Sinfonia n 7 in La maggiore op. 92, 1954, Furtwängler, Wilhelm
Sinfonia n 8 in Fa maggiore op. 93, 1951, De Sabata, Victor
Sinfonia n 8 in Fa maggiore op. 93, 1954, Furtwängler, Wilhelm
link: http://www.liberliber.it/audioteca/b/beethoven/index.htm
--
Carlo
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Enya, "And Winter Came...", track #3: "White is in the Winter Night".
>
> Just so you know, it ****in PWNZ! I've just listened to it, like, 4
> times back-to-back, and you know what? I think I'm going to play it yet
> again...
>
> Such PWN3RSH1P is rare indeed!
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
I bought all the cd of Enya, until a few years ago.
I have the impression that Enya has *run out of ideas*.
Enya continues to copy itself.
(She made me hate the staccato!) :-)
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Carlo
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:55:41 +0000, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>nemesis wrote:
>> Orchid XP v8 escreveu:
>>> I've just listened to it, like, 4
>>> times back-to-back, and you know what? I think I'm going to play it
>>> yet again...
>>
>> I usually choose one single Bach or Beethoven piece to go along all day. ;)
>
>I defy you to dance to that though. ;-) Let alone sing along...
>
I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die
Freude).
--
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Stephen
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Carlo C. wrote:
> I bought all the cd of Enya, until a few years ago.
> I have the impression that Enya has *run out of ideas*.
> Enya continues to copy itself.
Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and played
it backwards and it still sounded the same. Whatever, each to their own.
I listed to what *I* like listening to, and I'm really not bothered if
anybody else approves. :-P
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Stephen wrote:
> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die
> Freude).
1. That was Beethoven?
2. There are *words*??
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:48:52 EST, "triple_r" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>
>Or, as Mark Twain put it, "Richard Wagner, a musician who wrote music which is
>better than it sounds."
Or as Mary Macgregor (a friend of my wife) said. "Music to slaughter pigs by".
(No reference to certain atrocities 60 odd years ago)
OTOH his early music is quite jolly, "The Mastersingers of Nuremberg".
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:32:22 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>
>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die
>> Freude).
>
>1. That was Beethoven?
>
Yes.
>2. There are *words*??
By Schiller.
--
Regards
Stephen
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>>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die
>>> Freude).
>> 1. That was Beethoven?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>> 2. There are *words*??
>
> By Schiller.
Mmm, OK. I just played it... ;-)
Simple, yet effective.
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Carlo C. wrote:
>
> > I bought all the cd of Enya, until a few years ago.
> > I have the impression that Enya has *run out of ideas*.
> > Enya continues to copy itself.
>
> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and played
> it backwards and it still sounded the same. Whatever, each to their own.
> I listed to what *I* like listening to, and I'm really not bothered if
> anybody else approves. :-P
Certo! Of course! :-)
--
Carlo
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Ah, Enya!
*Caribbean Blue* : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Blue
Engraved on my heart, forever!
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Carlo
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Hmm actually not one of my most favourite tracks on the album (last month or
so I went onto a torrent site to grab the enya albums because I didn't feel
like setting up and my cd/dvd drive to rip them and discovered that hey,
there's a new album! downloaded it, then had to buy it)...Trains and Winter
Rains, Last Time by Moonlight, O Come O Come Emmanuel (Latin part
especially), and Dreams are More Precious are (more or less in that order)
the ones I like the most. Don't care so much for One Toy Soldier, and while
My! My! Time flies is enjoyable, it...is a bit out of place ^^
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and played
> it backwards and it still sounded the same.
I've done that with an mp3...personally, I think it's awesome. hehe
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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Carlo C. wrote:
> Ah, Enya!
> *Caribbean Blue* : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Blue
> Engraved on my heart, forever!
Yeah. I've spent many hours watching Geiss while listening to this...
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Stephen wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:32:22 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
>> Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die
>>> Freude).
>> 1. That was Beethoven?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>> 2. There are *words*??
>
> By Schiller.
I love Goethe and Schiller. :-)
What about Erlkoenig by Schubert?
Regards,
bluetree
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:41:08 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die
>>>> Freude).
>>> 1. That was Beethoven?
>>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> 2. There are *words*??
>>
>> By Schiller.
>
>Mmm, OK. I just played it... ;-)
>
Simple? A choral symphony for four solo voices, chorus, and orchestra. But then
you understand Haskel ;)
>Simple, yet effective.
And so effective it is referred to it as the European Anthem.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:56:16 +0100, bluetree <sea### [at] yahoode> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:32:22 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die
>>>> Freude).
>>> 1. That was Beethoven?
>>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> 2. There are *words*??
>>
>> By Schiller.
>
>
>I love Goethe and Schiller. :-)
>What about Erlkoenig by Schubert?
>
Dietrich Fisher-Dieskau ;)
And what about Winterreise by Müller? Set to music by Shubert.
--
Regards
Stephen
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> Simple? A choral symphony for four solo voices, chorus, and orchestra. But then
> you understand Haskel ;)
We only played the part for orchestra. There are only 6 notes in it.
(Which, incidentally, is 1 note more than the Enya song that started
this thread...)
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:17:01 -0500, Carlo C. wrote:
> Beethoven?
Yes....but I'm not sure what you mean by this reply (in its entirety). :-)
Jim
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:32:22 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>
>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An
>> die Freude).
>
> 1. That was Beethoven?
>
> 2. There are *words*??
<facepalm>
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:55:36 -0500, Carlo C. wrote:
> Ah, Enya!
> *Caribbean Blue* : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Blue Engraved
> on my heart, forever!
I'm partial to "Book of Days", but I would love to hear the Gaelic
version of it (I've only heard the English version).
Jim
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Stephen wrote:
> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die
> Freude).
There's a reason it served as the inflection point in the movie "Equilibrium".
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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Invisible wrote:
> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and played
> it backwards and it still sounded the same.
So does "Musical Offering". :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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Darren New escreveu:
> Stephen wrote:
>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy"
>> (An die
>> Freude).
>
> There's a reason it served as the inflection point in the movie
> "Equilibrium".
>
Huh, I remember it was the first movement of the symphony. BTW, that
movie is a Matrix wannabe... :P
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Darren New escreveu:
> Invisible wrote:
>
>> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and
>> played it backwards and it still sounded the same.
>
> So does "Musical Offering". :-)
You sure jest! :)
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nemesis wrote:
> Huh, I remember it was the first movement of the symphony.
Well, yes, I think that's right. And given the record player, it probably
wasn't the whole symphony. (I guess "Ode to Joy" is just the last movement,
then, yes?)
> BTW, that movie is a Matrix wannabe... :P
That's why I rented it. The box said "like the Matrix!" and I figured that
would mean it's awful enough to be worth renting, while it actually turned
out to be one of my favorite movies.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New escreveu:
>> Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and
>>> played it backwards and it still sounded the same.
>>
>> So does "Musical Offering". :-)
>
> You sure jest! :)
No. Some of the movements (or whatever they're called) are the same melody
played forward and backward at the same time. Some are the same played right
side up and upside down. (Crab Canon is like that, too.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_canon
With POV-Ray, even:
http://strangepaths.com/canon-1-a-2/2009/01/18/en/
(Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Musical_Offering )
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
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Darren New escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Darren New escreveu:
>>> Invisible wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah. And somebody complained to me that they took an Enya CD and
>>>> played it backwards and it still sounded the same.
>>>
>>> So does "Musical Offering". :-)
>>
>> You sure jest! :)
>
> No. Some of the movements (or whatever they're called) are the same
> melody played forward and backward at the same time. Some are the same
> played right side up and upside down. (Crab Canon is like that, too.)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_canon
Yes, fugues and canons are recursive and self-referential musical pieces
based on variations over a single theme or 2 themes, the second itself
generally a variation of the first. Inversions are one such variation.
However, an inverted piece of melody doesn't mean the whole music will
sound the same if played backwards. That's why I thought you were jesting.
And I thought you were originally talking about Beethoven's 32 variations...
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nemesis wrote:
> However, an inverted piece of melody doesn't mean the whole music will
> sound the same if played backwards. That's why I thought you were jesting.
Not necessarily, but I've seen music Bach wrote that had exactly that
feature. It's probably mentioned in GEB somewhere.
> And I thought you were originally talking about Beethoven's 32
> variations...
I thought I was. Maybe I'm mistaken in exactly what's in there. I seem to be
confusing various Bach fugues and I'm unable to track down just which one I
was thinking of right now.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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On 22 Jan 2009 11:17:38 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:32:22 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>
>> Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An
>>> die Freude).
>>
>> 1. That was Beethoven?
>>
>> 2. There are *words*??
>
><facepalm>
Indeed <facepalm>
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:02:07 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> Well, yes, I think that's right. And given the record player, it
> probably wasn't the whole symphony. (I guess "Ode to Joy" is just the
> last movement, then, yes?)
Yes, only in the final movement.
Jim
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Stephen wrote:
> Dietrich Fisher-Dieskau ;)
>
> And what about Winterreise by Müller? Set to music by Shubert.
Gorgeous! So beautiful!
Have you also seen Faust by Charles Gounod?
I've never went to the opera.
But I watched an old play of Faust.
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bluetree
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:32:25 +0100, bluetree <sea### [at] yahoode> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> Dietrich Fisher-Dieskau ;)
>>
>> And what about Winterreise by Müller? Set to music by Shubert.
>
>Gorgeous! So beautiful!
>
Sad and beautiful is Mahler's Kindertotenlieder
Yes I listen to "lieder" as well. (English usage)
>Have you also seen Faust by Charles Gounod?
Yes, I've seen it a few times sung in English and in French. The English version
at the ENO was one of the best and most glamorous productions I've ever been to.
The French version at the ROH was very dark especially when Marguerite was
tormented by the witches (a ballet).
But Hey! The music is stirring.
I also love Berlioz's The Damnation of Faust.
>I've never went to the opera.
>But I watched an old play of Faust.
The only play about Faust that I have seen was by the 17th century English
playwright Christopher Marlowe, The Tragical History of Doctor Faustus. In fact
one of my most over used quotations is from it:
"Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.
Think'st thou that I, who saw the face of God,
And tasted the eternal joys of heaven,
Am not tormented with ten thousand hells
In being deprived of everlasting bliss?"
--
Regards
Stephen
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Darren New escreveu:
> That's why I rented it. The box said "like the Matrix!" and I figured
> that would mean it's awful enough to be worth renting, while it actually
> turned out to be one of my favorite movies.
It's like a cross between Matrix bullet-time kung-fu and 1984 opressive
future. All behind a blueish photography unlike Matrix's phosphor... :P
Perhaps you'd enjoy Ultraviolet as well...
BTW, that Batman guy is more expressionless than both Keany Reeves and
Schwarzzenegger... :P
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nemesis wrote:
> Perhaps you'd enjoy Ultraviolet as well...
Watched it. Silly.
> BTW, that Batman guy is more expressionless than both Keany Reeves and
> Schwarzzenegger... :P
He's drugged to his gills. He's *supposed* to be expressionless. That's why
it's a dystopia! Watch the second half of the movie.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:46:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> I also love Berlioz's The Damnation of Faust.
That's a good one. I also like the Symphonie Fantastique. There is a
certain irony in KBYU broadcasting that one, it's like they don't know
what the story behind the music is. (KBYU is the radio station run by
Brigham Young University, which is owned by the LDS Church - a very
conservative organization).
Jim
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Darren New escreveu:
> He's drugged to his gills. He's *supposed* to be expressionless.
But he stopped! :P
> why it's a dystopia! Watch the second half of the movie.
I watched it until the end, I believe. Was there part 2?
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SPOILERS FOR EQUILIBRIUM BELOW!
nemesis wrote:
> Darren New escreveu:
>> He's drugged to his gills. He's *supposed* to be expressionless.
>
> But he stopped! :P
Yes. And then the acting wasn't wooden any more. (On the other hand, he'd
spent his whole life like that and was trying to look wooden so he wouldn't
get caught, and was a highly trained cleric type dude.) Check out the
interplay of expression at the very beginning, before you even know any of
the story.
>> why it's a dystopia! Watch the second half of the movie.
> I watched it until the end, I believe. Was there part 2?
After he stopped taking the drugs. The hand on the railing. While he's
rearranging his desk. Stuff like that. It's subtle, because he's trying
to hide it.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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On 23 Jan 2009 13:27:44 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:46:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> I also love Berlioz's The Damnation of Faust.
>
>That's a good one. I also like the Symphonie Fantastique.
Especially the movement with the 13 timpani.
Harold in Italy?
>There is a
>certain irony in KBYU broadcasting that one, it's like they don't know
>what the story behind the music is.
Fourth movement: "Marche au supplice"
Convinced that his love is spurned, the artist poisons himself with opium. The
dose of narcotic, while too weak to cause his death, plunges him into a heavy
sleep accompanied by the strangest of visions.
Fifth movement: "Songe d'une nuit de sabbat"
>(KBYU is the radio station run by
>Brigham Young University, which is owned by the LDS Church - a very
>conservative organization).
>
I always read that as "LSD Church". It must be a Freudian slip.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:22:02 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2009 13:27:44 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:46:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I also love Berlioz's The Damnation of Faust.
>>
>>That's a good one. I also like the Symphonie Fantastique.
>
> Especially the movement with the 13 timpani.
Yes. Or the start of the 5th movement with the strings playing "col
legno". That's an extremely eerie sound in and of itself, especially
with 50+ instruments doing it simultaneously.
> Harold in Italy?
I've got the score for it around here with my score for Symphonie
Fantastique (both in the same book), but oddly I haven't actually
listened to it. I need to find a good recording of it.
>>There is a
>>certain irony in KBYU broadcasting that one, it's like they don't know
>>what the story behind the music is.
>
> Fourth movement: "Marche au supplice"
>
> Convinced that his love is spurned, the artist poisons himself with
> opium. The dose of narcotic, while too weak to cause his death, plunges
> him into a heavy sleep accompanied by the strangest of visions.
>
> Fifth movement: "Songe d'une nuit de sabbat"
Yes, for both of them. The earlier movements are better, but the idea
that the subject of the Symphonie is having an opium dream makes it that
much more ironic. :-)
>
>>(KBYU is the radio station run by
>>Brigham Young University, which is owned by the LDS Church - a very
>>conservative organization).
>>
>>
> I always read that as "LSD Church". It must be a Freudian slip.
LOL, I have done so myself as well. Which is funny when driving to work
I see billboards for various LDS-themed products and services.
Jim
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On 23 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>I've got the score for it around here with my score for Symphonie
>Fantastique (both in the same book), but oddly I haven't actually
>listened to it. I need to find a good recording of it.
One that I like is the Deutsche Gramophone 429511-2 with Herbert von Karajan and
the Berlin Philharmoniker. I see you can get a torrent of it.
My disc has the "Dance of the Sylphs" and "Dance of the Will o' the Wisps" as
fillers.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Carlo C. wrote:
> Ah, Enya!
> *Caribbean Blue* : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Blue
> Engraved on my heart, forever!
>
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=player&query=146840
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=player&query=146840
Argh, the Java player causes a stuck note at the end...
Better download and use a real module player :)
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Darren New wrote:
> No. Some of the movements (or whatever they're called) are the same melody
> played forward and backward at the same time. Some are the same played
> right
> side up and upside down. (Crab Canon is like that, too.)
Someone told me she once played a song in the piano where, when you reach
the end, you start playing backwards. But the melody isn't repeated
backwards, you have to *read the score backwards*!
And once had trouble because the helper who changes pages in the score
didn't know this, and changed to the next page instead of waiting for her
to finish playing it backwards and changing to the *previous* page. >.<
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:22:43 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>>I've got the score for it around here with my score for Symphonie
>>Fantastique (both in the same book), but oddly I haven't actually
>>listened to it. I need to find a good recording of it.
>
> One that I like is the Deutsche Gramophone 429511-2 with Herbert von
> Karajan and the Berlin Philharmoniker. I see you can get a torrent of
> it. My disc has the "Dance of the Sylphs" and "Dance of the Will o' the
> Wisps" as fillers.
Cool, I'll have to see if I can find the disc. Come to think, I wonder
if I have that one in my collection - Von Karajan is one of my favourite
conductors - I've got him conducting Berlin for the Beethoven Symphonies,
I consider that more or less the definitive recording. Though Toscanini
with the NBC Symphony Orchestra is a close second.
Jim
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On 25 Jan 2009 15:52:49 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
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>Cool, I'll have to see if I can find the disc. Come to think, I wonder
>if I have that one in my collection - Von Karajan is one of my favourite
>conductors - I've got him conducting Berlin for the Beethoven Symphonies,
>I consider that more or less the definitive recording. Though Toscanini
>with the NBC Symphony Orchestra is a close second.
I would also recommend listening to Colin Davis's conducting of any Berlioz.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:41:56 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 25 Jan 2009 15:52:49 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>
>>Cool, I'll have to see if I can find the disc. Come to think, I wonder
>>if I have that one in my collection - Von Karajan is one of my favourite
>>conductors - I've got him conducting Berlin for the Beethoven
>>Symphonies, I consider that more or less the definitive recording.
>>Though Toscanini with the NBC Symphony Orchestra is a close second.
>
> I would also recommend listening to Colin Davis's conducting of any
> Berlioz.
Oh, yes, absolutely. Davis is another I really like.
IIRC, I've got two different recordings of the Symphonie Fantastique.
Nope, three:
Boulez & Cleveland
The European Philharmonic Orchestra (my online info doesn't include the
conductor, will have to check when I get home)
One other (also don't have the orchestra or conductor info for that one
online)
Jim
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On 26 Jan 2009 13:10:44 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>Oh, yes, absolutely. Davis is another I really like.
>
>IIRC, I've got two different recordings of the Symphonie Fantastique.
>Nope, three:
I've been packing things away so I can't check but I think at the last count we
had 7 different versions. (My wife is a collector.)
I've been having laptop problems. I updated a driver on my laptop earlier today
and it would not reboot, it kept shutting down hard after the press F2 to ender
the bios. I decided to reinstall Vista and it did reboot so I'm backing up my
important documents then will try to see what is wrong. The last couple of weeks
it has been shutting down when I put it into sleep or hibernation. So I might
reformat the C: drive and start over.
So buzz for hesitation ;)
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:13:10 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2009 13:10:44 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>
>>Oh, yes, absolutely. Davis is another I really like.
>>
>>IIRC, I've got two different recordings of the Symphonie Fantastique.
>>Nope, three:
>
> I've been packing things away so I can't check but I think at the last
> count we had 7 different versions. (My wife is a collector.)
Cool! Packing things away for any reason?
> I've been having laptop problems. I updated a driver on my laptop
> earlier today and it would not reboot, it kept shutting down hard after
> the press F2 to ender the bios. I decided to reinstall Vista and it did
> reboot so I'm backing up my important documents then will try to see
> what is wrong. The last couple of weeks it has been shutting down when I
> put it into sleep or hibernation. So I might reformat the C: drive and
> start over.
>
> So buzz for hesitation ;)
Buzzing yourself? I don't know that that's allowed....Consult the rule
book. ;-)
Jim
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